DaBird All American 7551 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^^ forte could be a boom or bust pick" |
hoping that mike martz has a positive impact...it is a PPR league.
Quote : | "QB Tony Romo RB Michael Turner, Ricky Williams, Cadillac Williams WR Roddy White, Chad Ochocinco, TJ Housh, Braylon Edwards, Chris Chambers, Nate Burleson, Arrelious Benn. TE Kellen Winslow DEF Saints
Any thoughts? " |
pretty solid for a 14 team league...i would look to trade a WR for another RB8/29/2010 10:46:24 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
i'm having to resist strong urges to drop Pittsburgh's defense for Carolina's, but I'm going to wait it out and see what the regular season holds 8/29/2010 10:59:08 PM |
mawle427 All American 22137 Posts user info edit post |
12-man PPR league.
QB - Matt Schaub, Matt Hasselbeck WR - Andre Johnson, Wes Welker, Robert Meachem, Lee Evans RB - Ronnie Brown, Matt Forte, Fred Jackson, Reggie Bush TE - Dallas Clark, Todd Heap K - Rob Bironas D - Arizona
I aslo picked up Dexter McCluster after accidentally drafting Matt Stafford.
So how did I do? I am pretty happy aside from feeling a little weak at RB. But I am hoping my WR, QB, and TE starters will end up putting up enough numbers to make up for it. Welker gets more touches than any other receiver so in a PPR league, he was a solid pick. Especially if he is healthy.
Quote : | "aaron rodgers, carson palmer greg jennings, anquan bolden, tj housh, roy williams cedric benson, ricky williams, cadilac williams, tim hightower, steve slaton, thomas jones j shock minn kicker and def" |
QB - Rogers will put up numbers, and Palmer is a good BYE week cover. WR - Jennings will likely put up numbers as will Boldin. Housh may put up something solid if Hasselbeck stays healthy. I am not a fan of Roy, but in theory he eventually has to have a good year. RB - Benson and Ricky Williams will probably be solid. Ricky is also good if you make it to the playoffs, as the Dolphins play the Bills and Rams (both in MIA) in weeks 15 and 16. The rest will be good matchup guys. Play them the weeks that they are playing weak run Ds. TE - Shockey is one of those guys that will occasionally put up good weeks, but there are so many weapons on that team that it is tough for one to get a lot of work unless they break one for a long run or TD. Defense and Kicker are solid.
[Edited on August 30, 2010 at 3:50 AM. Reason : Oh yeah, and I got my team with the 8th pick in the same draft as JohnnyTHM]8/30/2010 3:42:08 AM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
i am not involved in this trade...but what are your initial reactions?
romo/deangelo for schaub/sjax
also, how do you like my starting lineup? 12 man league...3rd pick
flacco roddy percy mjd j charles j forsett dallas clark rackers baltimore 8/30/2010 6:55:11 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
i think whoever's getting schaub and jackson is getting the short end, personally 8/30/2010 7:19:58 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Interesting... Both of Schaub and Jackson are rated higher at their respective position.
That being said, I wouldn't want Jackson on my team. 8/30/2010 7:55:38 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
who are your sleeper RBs, this year? 8/30/2010 8:25:55 AM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I am not one to want Sjax on my team either. But when was still available at the 9th pick I figured I had to take him. I was very happy with my draft, for the most part I got people I wanted though I'm not the biggest fan of my first two picks (Sjax, Turner), but they were the best by far available at the time.
QB - Tony Romo RB - Sjax RB - Michael Turner RB/WR - Shonn Green WR - Miles Austin WR - Steve Breaston TE - Jermichael Finley D/ST - Panthers K - David Akers
Bench - Knowshon Moreno, Jahvid Best, Cadillac Williams, Wes Welker, TJ Housh, Devin Aromashadu, Kevin Kolb 8/30/2010 9:27:32 AM |
phishbfm All American 4715 Posts user info edit post |
8th pick, 12 man league:
QB Aaron Rodgers RB Rashard Mendenhall RB Jahvid Best WR Greg Jennings WR Chad Ochocinco TE Owen Daniels D/ST Chargers D/ST K Nick Folk BE Dez Bryant BE Darren McFadden BE Santonio Holmes BE Jabar Gaffney BE Kevin Smith BE Tashard Choice BE Rashad Jennings BE Kevin Walter
I think i'm really going to like the rogers/jennings hookup. If people like Gaffney/Bryant breakout I could have a great year. Lots of question marks but when you're dealing with the NFL, it's all question marks when anyone could go down for the year.. 8/30/2010 10:19:39 AM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yeah I am not one to want Sjax on my team either. But when was still available at the 9th pick I figured I had to take him." |
you know, I said the same thing last year, but I ended up with him and was pleasantly surprised. He was a consistent performer, and got me points. I managed to pick him up again with the 10th pick, and pick Peyton in the turnaround (another consistent guy). We are in a 12 man league, with ppr and return yards/td's counted too (at 30yd/pt for return, and 20 for receiving). That is why you will some of the wr's I have in there:
QBs: play 1 - Peyton - Hasselback RBs: play 2 - Steven Jackson - Beenie Wells - Justin Forsett - Darren McFadden WRs: play 3 - Steve Smith (car) - Josh Cribbs - Steve Breaston - Johnny Knox - Julian Edelman - Jabar Gaffney TE: play 1 - Dallas Clark (I like the double points I'll get b/w him and peyton) Def: play 1 - San Fran (thought it was a gamble, but I feel like they are gonna make some serious plays this year on defense) K: play 1 - Josh Scobee - hell, it's a kicker, I don't know... He was the highest left on the list when I got him
The Forsett/Wells decision is gonna be tough every week...I kinda wish I coulda gotten one of the rookie rb's, but they just went too early for me to be thinking of them
[Edited on August 30, 2010 at 10:57 AM. Reason : w]8/30/2010 10:50:15 AM |
Shivan Bird Football time 11094 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i am not involved in this trade...but what are your initial reactions?
romo/deangelo for schaub/sjax" |
Schaub/Jackson are both higher at their position, but it feels reasonable nonetheless.8/30/2010 10:57:11 AM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
it's hard for me to judge running backs like willams/stewart (or the baltimore or NYG, or MIA running backs for that matter). You just don't know who is gonna be getting the TD's, exactly why I stay away from ray rice
last year I had 3 different NYG running backs, and lucked out that each time I had one, they were the back that went off... but I can't press that luck 8/30/2010 10:59:55 AM |
mawle427 All American 22137 Posts user info edit post |
At that point you just have to hope for the best. Rushing by committee has made WRs and QBs that much more important in Fantasy now. And in the case of people like Dallas Clark, TEs as well.
I just go with teams that run the ball A LOT (Jets, Miami, Panfas etc.) and RBs whose teams pass a lot, but pass to the RB a lot (NO, Indy, Chicago, etc.). It helps to go with that second one in a PPR league.
[Edited on August 30, 2010 at 12:05 PM. Reason : ..] 8/30/2010 12:04:42 PM |
tpw122983 Veteran 400 Posts user info edit post |
Really like my team. 12 person w/ standard scoring. It is a "high stakes" league but people didnt draft as such:
QB(1):Carson Palmer, Chad Henne RB(2):Jamaal Charles, Knowshon Mareno, Jonathan Stewart, Darren Sproles, Leon Washington WR(3):Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Greg Jennnigs, Terrell Owens, Roy Williams, Legedu Naanee TE(1):Owen Daniels DEF(1):Saints K(1): Garrett Hartley(saints)
[Edited on August 30, 2010 at 12:43 PM. Reason : ] 8/30/2010 12:41:42 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
14 team ppr league, 8th pick
I always go receiver heavy in this league. (Won it 2 years ago, second last year) QB- Kolb/Ruthlessraper
RBs- A. Foster, Forte, Sproles (gets return pts too)
WRs-R Moss, G Jennings, DeShean Jackson
TE- Carlson
[Edited on August 30, 2010 at 1:00 PM. Reason : f] 8/30/2010 12:59:52 PM |
ajgoff1286 All American 2585 Posts user info edit post |
Not really sure why Sjax is getting hate, he is the only real performer on that offense, and with a rookie qb they will rely on him heavily for sure.
Just drafted in 10-team league 7th pick: How did I do?
Qb: Brett Favre RB: Steven Jackson RB/WR: Greg Jennings WR: Randy Moss WR: Reggie Wayne TE: Vernon Davis D/ST: Bengals K: Jay Feely Zona (will probably drop and pick another kicker up though.) Bench: Ricky Williams Bench: Hines Ward Bench: Thomas Jones Bench: Jahvid Best Bench: Derrick Mason Bench: Heath Miller Bench: Matthew Stafford Bench: Justin Forsett
Decided to go Running back heavy with the bench players to give myself some options for my RB/WR position. Don't think I will be benching Moss and Wayne so they'll just be constant at the WR positon 8/30/2010 2:05:05 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^ I think the concern with S-Jax is certainly warranted. You have a bad OL, a rookie QB, and the #1 WR out for the season. Teams are going to load the box and make sure they stop S-Jax and force Bradford to beat them. 8/30/2010 2:10:19 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Please stop calling him S-Jax. That is not his nickname.
You might as well say P-Mann, C-John or A-Bol 8/30/2010 2:13:58 PM |
stillrolling All American 1225 Posts user info edit post |
had a draft on Saturday. Its a weird league.
-16 teams, its QB heavy though I'm not sure how they score so many points, just know if a QB was a solid starter he was more than likely in the top 60 of scoring last year. -1 PPR, and RBs and TEs get a point for every 5 yards receiving (Dallas Clark, Vernon Davis, and Antonio Gates were all in the top 7 players in scoring last year). -240 players get picked so you always end up with some back ups. -QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, D, K, and one UTIL that can be any position but you'd like to have a QB in there.
Got slammed with the fucking 16th pick, so I had to make due:
QB - Rivers, Henne, Derek Anderson RB - Lesean McCoy, Michael Bush, Ricky Williams, Fred Jackson WR - Reggie Wayne, Malcolm Floyd, Eddie Royal, Devin Aromashodu TE - Vernon Davis, Aaron Hernandez D - Titans K - Matt Prater
I'm pretty much thinking my season hinges on Malcolm Floyd (who eased my worries with 4 catches for 51 yards, a TD, and 8 targets last preseason game) and either Michael Bush or Ricky Williams stepping up.
Thoughts? 8/30/2010 2:18:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
^^whatup S-Fam 8/30/2010 3:05:37 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
i don't know why people bother with 16 team leagues. i guess it's more challenging to rely on scrubs? i guess it's the reason i like blitz more than madden, because i just wanna have fun, not act like a damn coach 8/30/2010 3:11:00 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
^Better hope Jaybee doesn't read that 8/30/2010 3:13:07 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
heavens to betsy, whatever will i do 8/30/2010 3:15:00 PM |
DalCowboys All American 1945 Posts user info edit post |
^5 Looks like a pretty solid team to me especially with 16 teams. Floyd looks like he could explode this year.
[Edited on August 30, 2010 at 3:24 PM. Reason : J-5] 8/30/2010 3:23:45 PM |
Shivan Bird Football time 11094 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I had to make due" |
8/30/2010 4:41:29 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Christ you're worthless 8/30/2010 4:42:51 PM |
Shivan Bird Football time 11094 Posts user info edit post |
8/30/2010 4:54:27 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
10 team leauge...5th pick...made out like a thief
flacco calvin johnson miles austin frank gore jamaal charles jermichael finley lesean mccoy kicker and defense by committee --------------------------- cj spiller marion barber wes welker malcom floyd donald brown eddie royal montario hardesty darren mcfadden
[Edited on August 30, 2010 at 9:22 PM. Reason : will have to drop 2 for kicker/defense] 8/30/2010 9:15:03 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
alright fellas, I have quite the conundrum. Who should I start as my RBs week 1?
-Frank Gore @ Seattle (he's definitely getting the start as my RB1) -Shonn Greene vs. Baltimore (I drafted him as my RB2, but he is playing the Ravens and LT has been eating into his carries more than I'd like to see) -Matt Forte vs. Detroit (he's having a good preseason, he is playing in Mike Martz's system and its against Detroit) -Arian Foster vs. Indy (he's having a ridiculous preseason, Slaton might be questionable for week 1 so he'll get tons of carries) and indy's defense is suspect)
such a tough call, I really dont know which way I'm leaning, when I think I have it figured out, I make a good case for another player. 8/30/2010 9:18:46 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
I'd probably say Gore and Foster 8/30/2010 9:23:59 PM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
standard scoring? PPR? If it's PPR, go with Foster. If it's not, consider Greene, then go with Foster.
Regardless, do not go with Forte.
To tie a bow around Arian Foster, I love him and think he will be very successful this season. Ideally (for HOU to win games), the Texans don't throw as much as they did last season. They need to have balance to have a chance (New Orleans throws like hell but it was the running game that powered them through the playoffs). As strange as it sounds, teams were putting 3 in the box last year and dropping back to stop the pass because they knew HOU couldn't run it. That O-line and Foster are looking really good.
Foster, by all accounts, is poised for an incredible season. Not only between the tackles, but as a goal line back and coming out into the flats. I drafted him as my #3 RB (behind Mendenhall and Pierre Thomas), but it's very likely that he's a starter for me in week 1.
Start Foster and Gore unless something changes in between now and then.
- The Guru 8/30/2010 9:30:18 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
word, thats the way my roster is set right now, but I feel bad not starting Greene when I drafted him in the 3rd or 4th round, and its engrained in my mind to start any decent player who is going against Detroit. I actually had my draft on August 15th and Arian Foster went undrafted, I picked him up on waivers a few days later, could be the early favorite for move of the year.
its a non-ppr league btw
how about this, who would you start at your WR3: Malcolm Floyd @ KC or Santana Moss vs. Dallas?
and should I drop Sidney Rice and/or Justin Forsett and pick up Mike Williams (TB), Jabar Gaffney, or Dexter McCluster? or should I hold onto Sidney Rice in hopes that he will come back healthy? My other two WRs are Randy Moss and Roddy White - solid
finally, should I start Jay Cutler vs. Detroit, Carson Palmer @ NEng?
or try to trade Jay Cutler and Shonn Green/Matt Forte for Aaron Rodgers?
[Edited on August 30, 2010 at 9:44 PM. Reason : lots of questions, haha, thanks!] 8/30/2010 9:42:31 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
i'd say drop Rice 8/30/2010 9:50:29 PM |
mawle427 All American 22137 Posts user info edit post |
Cutler and Forte for A. Rodgers is a solid trade IMO. 8/30/2010 9:53:14 PM |
wahoowa All American 3288 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ I too think Foster will have a big year
^^^ drop Rice and pick up Williams
^ It would be a great trade if you are trying to get Aaron Rodgers but Mr. INT and Fumblin Forte (6 last year) would be a terrible swap for the potential #1 Fantasy QB (and most likely highest fantasy scorer) for whoever owns Rodgers. Good luck with that deal.
[Edited on August 30, 2010 at 10:14 PM. Reason : aa] 8/30/2010 10:13:04 PM |
mawle427 All American 22137 Posts user info edit post |
Well he has asked if he should play Cutler and Forte, so I am assuming he gets Rodgers out of the deal.
Otherwise, Dennis fails completely at asking questions. 8/30/2010 11:32:44 PM |
jtmartin All American 4116 Posts user info edit post |
Ok TWW (& Guru). I've never gotten much into Fantasy Football. We had our 13 person snake draft tonight in a Dynasty league. Here were my pics, many of which were Wolfpack bias, or 30 second time limit rushed picks. I need some feedback on how I did & how to proceed...
QB Philip Rivers, SD QB RB Maurice Jones-Drew, Jac RB WR Greg Jennings, GB WR WR Dez Bryant, Dal WR TE Greg Olsen, Chi TE DB Adrian Wilson, Ari S DB DaJuan Morgan, KC S DB Bob Sanders, Ind S DP DeAngelo Hall, Was CB D/ST Eagles D/ST, Phi D/ST HC Jets Coach, NYJ HC
Bench C.J. Spiller, Buf RB [Breaking News] Bench Brett Favre, Min QB P [Breaking News] Bench Jerricho Cotchery, NYJ WR Bench Fred Davis, Was TE Bench Panthers D/ST, Car D/ST Bench Terence Newman, Dal CB Bench Paul Oliver, SD CB 8/31/2010 12:06:21 AM |
Shivan Bird Football time 11094 Posts user info edit post |
13 owners, head coach position, 1 RB, team defense, and IDP? That's a strange league.
I'm very concerned with dynasty depth at all offensive positions. I'd cut everybody below Cotchery (maybe even the whole bench except Spiller) and grab some potential. But it's probably too late now. You also need a better WR than Dez Bryant for this year.
See keeper/dynasty rankings at http://www.fftoolbox.com/football/2010/fantasy-football-keeper-rankings.cfm 8/31/2010 1:14:39 AM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
Got pick #12 in the 12 team draft, along with number 13. Should I expect any of the elite RBs to be around? I expect guys like Moss, Wayne, and others to be around as WRs, but I'd like to get an RB in the 1st 2 picks. If I don't do that, will a guy like Jamaal Charles possibly be around at the end of round 3?
Also, where would you expect a guy like Arian Foster to be picked?
[Edited on August 31, 2010 at 1:49 AM. Reason : .] 8/31/2010 1:48:51 AM |
hydro290 All American 1703 Posts user info edit post |
amac. that is a really good team. the 5th pick in my league had a monster draft as well. 8/31/2010 6:45:47 AM |
hydro290 All American 1703 Posts user info edit post |
DROD. I don't think anyone could fault you for starting Foster over Greene. The Houston offense has looked really dangerous this preseason and the Jets have been struggling. With a matchup against Baltimore and LT's recent success, I have a question mark over Greene's head in week 1. With that said, Greene has been playing very well, despite being slightly overshadowed by LT. I still have high hopes for him this season, but right now, I'd go with Foster.
I'd let the quality of my bench determine whether or not to hang on to Sidney Rice. He's going to be out a significant amount of time, and there's no guarantee he'll play well late in the season. I'd dump him (or better yet, trade him) if he's going to be out for 8 weeks, but that's just me. I also came in second to last place in my league last year.
[Edited on August 31, 2010 at 7:34 AM. Reason : :] 8/31/2010 7:25:00 AM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
more reason to start Foster in week 1.
Quote : | "Steve Slaton (turf toe) wore a walking boot on the sidelines at Texans practice Monday, according to the team's web site.
Even though the team claims he'll be ready to go week one, the nature of his injury makes a return date pretty tough to predict. Besides, Arian Foster has a stranglehold on the starting job, and he'll handle every-down duties if Slaton can't go early on. " |
8/31/2010 8:54:22 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Got pick #12 in the 12 team draft, along with number 13. Should I expect any of the elite RBs to be around? I expect guys like Moss, Wayne, and others to be around as WRs, but I'd like to get an RB in the 1st 2 picks. If I don't do that, will a guy like Jamaal Charles possibly be around at the end of round 3?
Also, where would you expect a guy like Arian Foster to be picked?" |
you miiiiiiight get deangelo, but other than him they'll mostly be off the board. if you've got draft savvy managers, foster will probably be gone towards the end of the 2nd-early 3rd.8/31/2010 8:59:17 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
What do you guys think of my first team:
Philip Rivers QB- SD Ray Rice RB- BAL Rashard Mendenhall RB- PIT Greg Jennings WR- GB Hakeem Nicks WR- NYG Tony Gonzalez TE- ATL Ronnie Brown RB- MIA
BN Matt Ryan QB- ATL BN Dwayne Bowe WR- KC BN Laurence Maroney RB- NE BN Tim Hightower RB- ARI BN T.J. Houshmandzadeh WR- SEA BN Chris Cooley TE- WAS
Mario Manningham, Steve Breaston, Sidney Rice, Vincent Jackson, Fred Jackson, Chester Taylor, Larry Johnson, and Julius Jones are all still available
[Edited on August 31, 2010 at 1:10 PM. Reason : I think I'm good except for bench RB...] 8/31/2010 1:06:07 PM |
JLaird All American 610 Posts user info edit post |
So I've just been offered these 2 trade options:
He's offering AP for: Palmer New Orleans and Garcon Palmer NO & Owen Daniels
(He autodrafted and ended up spending like $170 of $200 on AP and CJ)
My team: QB - Jay Cutler, Carson Palmer WR - Steve Smith (CAR), Marques Colston, D Bowe, Garcon, D. Mason, Aromashodu RB - F. Gore, Jerome Harrison, D. McFadden TE - Jason Witten, Owen Daniels K - Longwell, Lindell DEF - San Fran, NO
14 person league, PPR. Pick QB1, WR3, RB2, W/R1, TE1, K1, DEF1
I'm thinking option with Daniels, just worried about Cutler putting up 3 picks a game. Thoughts?
[Edited on August 31, 2010 at 2:30 PM. Reason : .] 8/31/2010 2:29:59 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
FF Newbs, pay attention!
Quote : | "Rule for when posting in this thread:
If someone has posted a question above yours, please try to answer it. Posting over another person's question is not only annoying but causes people to repost large quotes." |
That being said....
JLaird, what other QBs are still available in your league? How many RBs can you start?
Repost:
Quote : | " What do you guys think of my first team:
Philip Rivers QB- SD Ray Rice RB- BAL Rashard Mendenhall RB- PIT Greg Jennings WR- GB Hakeem Nicks WR- NYG Tony Gonzalez TE- ATL Ronnie Brown RB- MIA
BN Matt Ryan QB- ATL BN Dwayne Bowe WR- KC BN Laurence Maroney RB- NE BN Tim Hightower RB- ARI BN T.J. Houshmandzadeh WR- SEA BN Chris Cooley TE- WAS
Mario Manningham, Steve Breaston, Sidney Rice, Vincent Jackson, Fred Jackson, Chester Taylor, Larry Johnson, and Julius Jones are all still available" |
[Edited on August 31, 2010 at 2:42 PM. Reason : I think I'm good except for bench RB..]8/31/2010 2:41:59 PM |
wahoowa All American 3288 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Take the trade. Doesnt matter which one but Id go with the one involving Garcon. Palmer, a DEF, and a WR are well worth a #1 RB. Palmer is not a significant upgrade over Cutler. You should dominate with Gore and AP and your WRs.
^ Your team looks good except for RB depth as you mentioned. Youve got two good TE...try and trade one for a mid level RB. If you hold Cooley a couple of games his stock should go up and you might be able to trade for a 2nd tier back....McNabb loves the TE.
[Edited on August 31, 2010 at 3:56 PM. Reason : a] 8/31/2010 3:48:52 PM |
JLaird All American 610 Posts user info edit post |
My bad, didn't know the "rule".
Available QBs: Sanchez, Leinart, Derek Anderson, J. Campbell, Sam Bradford, Josh Freeman, Tebow, Delhomme, Tarvaris Jackson 8/31/2010 3:56:26 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
I don't understand the rule. I thought the whole point of the thread is to get FF advice from the Guru...and he only gives advice on about 3% of the questions on this thing.
If I'm going to post my roster and ask for advice, why would I want to receive it from anyone other than the self-professed Guru? Everyone else's opinion doesn't matter. 8/31/2010 4:29:58 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
The Guru is overrated.
It would be like if Steven Seagal made a Karate thread.
You'd like answers from Steven, but answers from Van Damme and Jet Li would be valuable as well. 8/31/2010 4:32:51 PM |