I thought we redshirted Crisp last year? He has game experience?

4/13/2011 12:54:53 PM

^I think he was forced into action when someone (maybe Vermiglio?) went down...

4/13/2011 12:55:56 PM

Lol Crisp played in about every game and I'm pretty sure he started at least one.

4/13/2011 12:57:59 PM

From Crisp's bio on GoPack:

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"Started the season opener at left tackle and was in for a season-high 62 snaps in that contest ... Played mainly special teams during the second half of the season, but was in for 122 snaps for the year, giving up just one sack."

4/13/2011 1:09:57 PM

Oh yeah I guess I do remember Crisp playing in the first game, but after I didn't notice him anymore I figured we used that rule where you can play a guy one game and then redshirt him. Didn't realize he was out on special teams.

[Edited on April 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM. Reason : .]

4/13/2011 1:39:19 PM

If we can keep RJ Mattes from racking up dead ball penalties would be nice

Because we finally have some monsters on that front line.

4/13/2011 1:42:35 PM

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"I figured we used that rule where you can play a guy one game and then redshirt him"

pretty sure that only applies to injuries, where it's less than 25% of the season. or is that what you meant

4/13/2011 1:51:55 PM

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"If we can keep RJ Mattes from racking up dead ball penalties would be nice"

It was Christophe in the UNC and Champs game that both were huge, could have put the UNC game on ice, and could have had 3rd and short against WVU negating that subsequent "attempt" at a fake FG. I can't remember if it was Christophe/Mattes in the Clemson game, but that changed the complexion of the game and probably the overall outcome inside their 10.

4/13/2011 2:03:37 PM

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""I figured we used that rule where you can play a guy one game and then redshirt him""

4/13/2011 2:17:55 PM

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"O'Brien looking for leaders on Pack's football team By Tim Hall Updated at 12:27 p.m. Spring football is in the air. The NC State Wolfpack will open the gates to Carter-Finley Stadium this Saturday at 1 p.m., for the 2nd Annual Kay Yow Spring Game. A minimum $1 donation to the Kay Yow Cancer Fund gets you in. Even though the Wolfpack return plenty of starters on both sides of the ball from last season's nine-win team, it lost leaders on both sides of the ball — quarterback Russell Wilson and linebacker Nate Irving. Coach Tom O'Brien may have some concerns about how those leadership roles are filled. "It's still a concern because each team is different and each team has to define their own selves as a football team," O'Brien said on 620 The Buzz."I think they understand what's expected of them. When we do any leadership training we have 14 seniors, they're the 14 guys out front. We're auditioning them. They're trying to see if they're going to be the guy. "That's one reason I don't elect captains in spring practice." One redshirt junior that will by competing for one of those roles is quarterback Mike Glennon, who's had plenty of time to watch Russell Wilson work from the sidelines. Even though Glennon was a highly rated player out of high school with all the physical tools, it still can't substitute live action in a real college game. "There's always some questions you have, you've got to get in front of the crowd and play. But a guy like Glennon will only get better the more he plays. He's very talented, he can make every throw," O'Brien said. He also pointed to Glennon's roles on state championship teams in high school in Virginia and his role as a leader on those teams. One thing that won't hurt is the consistency being built on the offensive line, which is now two deep with scholarship players for the first time in the Tom O'Brien era. NC State is also coming off one of its best attendance years in school history and season tickets for 2011 are already selling. O'Brien has his own measuring stick that tells him how excited the fans are for Wolfpack football. "I saw people the other day walking through the stadium checking seats off. People do come to the stadium with their pads looking at different seats. You don't have to work hard to raise expectations around here," O'Brien joked. "They get pretty well going on their own." "

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncsu/story/9433272/

4/13/2011 2:49:10 PM

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"pretty sure that only applies to injuries, where it's less than 25% of the season. or is that what you meant"

Yeah that's the one

4/13/2011 3:15:40 PM

He has got to be thrilled to be here at nc state with such devoted fans.

4/13/2011 3:15:53 PM

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"You don't have to work hard to raise expectations around here"

is that a back-handed compliment?

4/13/2011 6:41:56 PM

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"“We all have a lot of goals,” Bryan said. “That’s another reason I wanted to come back and finish my fifth year. I want to help NC State win an ACC Championship and to win another bowl game.”"

4/14/2011 7:54:34 AM

playing devils advocate here...(purely hypothetical)

Let's say RW does indeed come back for fall practice. We're committed to Glennon, he's our starter, etc. Week 2 @ WF Glennon struggles a bit, missing WR's and throws a pair of INTs.

How long, do you think, it would take TOB to sub in Russell Wilson? I would imagine it would be so difficult to keep him off the field while your relatively inexperienced QB struggles. It would be a Catch22 situation in terms of team continuity...but seriously, if #16 is standing there watching on the sidelines, how does that affect the team psyche?

4/14/2011 8:57:08 AM

I think you stick with Glennon until atleast the GT game. He's going to pretty much have to be the future next season so I say give him a chance until the bulk of ACC play starts up.

4/14/2011 9:05:04 AM

TOB at the Fayetteville Caravan Stop

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"Q: Other than Carolina, who is your biggest personal rival? A: Army. ... I spent four years squaring corners saying, 'Go Navy. Beat Army.' What do you think I'm going to say? (Athletic director Debbie Yow gets O'Brien's attention.) Debbie says to say Maryland. Sorry, Debbie."

4/14/2011 9:38:55 AM

Haha, I know Maryland fans have never thought much of NC State but they must hate us now.

4/14/2011 9:46:12 AM

why is that?

[Edited on April 14, 2011 at 10:07 AM. Reason : we lost to maryland at the end of the season so many times and missed going to a bowl]

4/14/2011 10:01:47 AM

I'm glad he didn't say Maryland.

4/14/2011 10:07:40 AM

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"why is that?"

refer to the coaching thread.

4/14/2011 10:18:40 AM

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"How long, do you think, it would take TOB to sub in Russell Wilson?"

A single bad game is not enough to take out your committed starting QB to play anyone (RW or not). Glennon is the guy now, and that means the coach is going to support him and have his back all the way down into the gutter six or seven games later if this is a disaster. If he knows RW is going to come clean up the first time he makes a mistake, that's a lot of pressure, and it's dumb to put that on your QB and expect him to play well. It would take Daniel "don't make me do stuff" Evans levels of fail for several games before TOB would even think about making the sub.

And RW on the sideline doesn't affect the team psyche. He is the backup, the offense will be sold and ready to follow Glennon. The team wil be happy to have RW on the sideline sharing the experience, but they won't mutiny and force him out on the field to take Glennon's spot.

[Edited on April 14, 2011 at 10:44 AM. Reason : ]

[Edited on April 14, 2011 at 10:45 AM. Reason : ]

4/14/2011 10:44:39 AM

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" refer to the coaching thread. "

so yow calls out someone and they hate us? and how is this related to football? We should hate them more as they beat us at the end of the season and we missed going to the bowl.

4/14/2011 11:06:13 AM

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"that means the coach is going to support him and have his back all the way down into the gutter six or seven games later if this is a disaster. If he knows RW is going to come clean up the first time he makes a mistake, that's a lot of pressure, and it's dumb to put that on your QB and expect him to play well. It would take Daniel "don't make me do stuff" Evans levels of fail for several games before TOB would even think about making the sub. "

this is just full of dumb.

if glennon sucks huge balls and wilson is back, i would hope to god o'brien doesnt wait 6-7 games to pull him.

also, daniel evans was the best qb of a whole bunch of bad qbs that we had for quite a few years. evans>jay davis>harrison beck>marcus stone

4/14/2011 11:08:17 AM

one issue with all of this is that the entire offense is going to be changed, Glennon and Brosious (And whoever else) will have practiced in this offense while RW will not have. This is simple fact. Not saying that RW wouldn't be able to learn it, but it would be the same situation if he transferred to another school, he'd just know everyone's name already. MG and TB are learning this offense now, have taken and will have taken multiple reps in it, will do more and more reps over the summer.

4/14/2011 11:23:13 AM

^^ Switch Stone and Beck

4/14/2011 11:31:17 AM

If Wilson comes back, maybe TOB would employ some type of strategy where Wilson gets a series every third possession or something just to screw with the opposing defenses.

Or maybe some type of gimmick offense where both Glennon and Wilson are in the backfield together ala Rivers/Hannum. Maybe have Wilson come in on 3rd and short plays to give us more options.




[Edited on April 14, 2011 at 11:40 AM. Reason : jk]

4/14/2011 11:39:45 AM

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"Glennon and Brosious (And whoever else)Imhoff"

Can't forget our star-studded walkon. He does have more completions in game than Renner at UNC.

4/14/2011 12:43:21 PM

Imhoff is the fucking man.

I'm glad he got a scholly. He's a great guy, and very deserving. Works hard and is a "TOB type" guy.

4/14/2011 12:53:16 PM

You can look in any direction in football and see coaches hanging on and letting their QB's stay on the field while they crash and burn. RW will not come back and dance onto the field in the first half of the season, (almost) regardless of how poorly Glennon does.

That's just how football and coaches work.

4/14/2011 1:25:44 PM

The solution is to start both Glennon and Wilson and run the A-11 offense.

4/14/2011 2:30:58 PM

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"Switch Stone and Beck "

no.

stone gets last because his first collegiate TD pass was to a linebacker on the other team and the fact that he is still in denial that he was a shitty QB.

4/14/2011 7:15:54 PM

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"Maybe have Wilson come in on 3rd and short plays to give us more options."

Great idea.

Tell the first stringer that he can't cut it and the guy in whose shadow he is living is going to come in and save the day.

4/14/2011 7:20:06 PM

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"Imhoff is the fucking man. I'm glad he got a scholly. He's a great guy, and very deserving. Works hard and is a "TOB type" guy."

I'll give you the fact that he is a hard worker. But he is a grade A dick licker in my book. But that's just my opinion.

4/14/2011 7:49:16 PM

Beck gets last because he threw interceptions to rutgers during the bowl game and walked off the field smiling

I'm sure stone actually liked nc state

4/14/2011 8:23:12 PM

yeah Stone was at least willing to switch to a TE as long as it helped the team

although I also like to talk shit about him when I tell App State fans that we beat them "with Marcus Stone at QB!"

4/14/2011 8:31:13 PM

Imhoff has negative arm strength. No offense to the guy but I hope we never see him in a real game situation

4/14/2011 8:32:36 PM

I do respect Stone for switching to TE. Most qbs have that "high school qb" mentality of being too skilled to block.

4/14/2011 8:41:44 PM

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"I wish I would have had my shot at quarterback [at NCSU], back when I got changed out [to tight end]," Stone said. "I feel that would have been my best shot to play pro football."

he is fucking delusional.

4/14/2011 8:49:41 PM

Oh for the love of God folks enough of the "if Russell comes back" mess. MG is the next QB. Even if he starts rocky we aren't pulling him and it would be completely stupid to do so with him being our QB the following season as well. Only way Russell plays is if MG gets hurt.

4/14/2011 9:21:36 PM

^^ IIRC Stone made the Bears practice squad or something for a year so that wasn't that far off

4/14/2011 9:31:18 PM

lol @ stone not getting his shot. you think chuck was dying to put in daniel evans? silly marcus stone

he worked his ass off though, definitely a team player.

4/14/2011 9:41:53 PM

Daniel Evans beat Florida State

no really I swear it happened.

Also, I thought that it's generally accepted that there's no way in hell Wilson is coming back, right?

4/14/2011 9:44:51 PM

you can criticize Stone all you want as a QB. I will never question the guy as a football player though. I was damn glad to have him at NC State.

4/14/2011 10:37:42 PM

^^Daniel Evans also beat TOB @ BC

6 DEGREES OF SEPARATION

4/14/2011 10:39:01 PM

i mean, you have to respect the shit out of evans too. he was originally a walk-on and it's not like he had the talent to be winning a shitload of games. he did as best he could, and damn near staged and epic comeback to win the PAPAJOHNS.COM BOWL. You can't say him and Stone didn't hold up their end of the bargain.

Now Harrison Beck, on the other hand....(can I get a Harrison 4 frame zoom pick)

[Edited on April 14, 2011 at 10:47 PM. Reason : and i would not be shocked if russell came back. i don't know how he got drafted in the fourth round]

4/14/2011 10:46:31 PM

did stone really say that?

4/14/2011 10:47:16 PM

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"i don't know how he got drafted in the fourth round"

because the MLB has like a 50-round draft and a massive minor league system in place so that unlike sports such as the NBA and NFL, players can have time to develop their games for a few years before going on to the show.

4/14/2011 11:01:10 PM

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"NC State LB Cole adjusting to new role NC State linebacker Audie Cole said he was “pretty lost” at his new position, middle linebacker, when spring practices began. “I really had no idea what I was doing,” he said. That was then, this is now. “I’m a lot more comfortable,” he said. “I still make a lot of mistakes, but I make less mistakes every day. I figure if I keep doing that, I’ll be alright." So will NC State's defense. As the Wolfpack prepares for its annual spring game at 1 p.m. on Saturday, it does so knowing Cole’s move from strongside to middle linebacker was a good one. After leading the team in tackles each of the past two seasons, Cole is ready to emerge from the shadow of Nate Irving and into the spotlight. “I like it because you’re always in the action,” Cole said. “You always have something to do. A lot of things rely on the middle linebacker. Our middle linebacker and our weakside linebacker are our quarterlinebackers. It’s mostly our job to get everyone lined up and stop the run. It’s an important position. I’m glad I got the chance to play it.” Cole tied for the team lead in tackles last season with 97, and his 10.5 tackles for loss ranked third on the team. Nobody on the defense played more snaps (809), and Cole was integral in coach Tom O'Brien's fourth straight win over rival North Carolina. Cole tied his career-high with 13 tackles, including a six-yard sack and he also recovered a fumble. Despite his past success, Cole said he's still "a long ways away" from where he wants to be as a middle linebacker. “I know the whole playbook, I can tell you everything in the playbook. That’s not the problem," he said. "I have to get more instinctive and picking up on things on the field and knowing what’s going to happen before it does. That’s what Nate was really good at. Nate could see the play before it even happens. It just comes with practicing and watching film. I’m a long ways away, but I’ll be ready by the first game for sure.”"

--ESPN blog

[Edited on April 15, 2011 at 10:19 AM. Reason : ]

4/15/2011 10:17:41 AM

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"NC State football head coach Tom O'Brien and Wolfpack legend Torry Holt will compete for $415,000 in scholarship money at the 2011 Chick-fil-A Bowl Challenge, May 1-3. The event will be held at the Reynolds Plantation resort on Lake Oconee outside Atlanta. The field is comprised of 13 head coaches and celebrities vying for the $120,000 first-place prize with all teams receiving a portion of the $415,000 scholarship purse. The tournament is being taped by ESPN for broadcast in the fall. The date of the broadcast will be announced this summer. The field of competitors is listed below. Team: Head Coach / Celebrity Alabama: Nick Saban / Chris Mohr Clemson: Dabo Swinney / Steve Fuller Florida State: Jimbo Fisher / Terrell Buckley Georgia Tech: Paul Johnson / Jon Barry Maryland: Randy Edsall / Stan Gelbaugh Miami: Al Golden / TBD Mississippi State: Dan Mullen / Fred McCrary NC State: Tom O'Brien / Torry Holt Ole Miss: Houston Nutt / Wesley Walls South Carolina: Steve Spurrier / Sterling Sharpe Tennessee: Derek Dooley / TBD Virginia Tech: Frank Beamer / Del Curry Wake Forest: Jim Grobe / Riley Skinner"

Wonder why they left UNCCheat out? discuss amongst yourselves. I'd rather watch this golf match than anything besides a major and possibly TPC Sawgrass

4/15/2011 10:38:02 AM