NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I would argue the one position that Arsenal DESPERATELY needed to upgrade this window they haven't and the options are dwindling. Schneiderlin is going to Spurs (fuck him) and the more reliable Spanish journalists are saying Khedira is staying at Real to run down his contract.
Who could be got? William Carvalho is a true beast DM but young and in Portugal so he is WAY overpriced. A Bender brother? Even if he was available Vidal is too similar to Ramsey and not a true DM.... and we would never outspend United to get him.
If they don't get a real DM third or fourth yet again...
[Edited on July 30, 2014 at 7:29 AM. Reason : Autocorrect] 7/30/2014 7:29:23 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
What's Christoph Kramer's status?
I'm shocked PL teams aren't fighting over Memphis Depay. I can't believe I haven't even seen a rumor linking him to Manchester United, which is strange because they're linked to every other Dutch player in the world. 7/30/2014 8:24:01 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
What's with the fucking pink all of a sudden from both Barca and Real?
It looks horrible. 7/30/2014 9:06:26 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Well, I guess they're not complete idiots over there.
http://www.espnfc.com/barclays-premier-league/story/1966033/vanishing-spray-to-be-used-in-prem 7/30/2014 12:40:40 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Better late than never 7/30/2014 1:10:59 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck Yes. Goose bumps. We Go Again
A special season now is done And sadly there's no title won. But memories of how we played Will hold us through these summer days. One memory for me stands out Our captain gives a rallying shout. Emotion strong, he tells his men We Go Again.
Those words so heartfelt and inspired Don't change because of what transpired. For Stevie is a man who leads Desiring always to succeed. Pushing himself and those around To always reach for higher ground. He bottled it? Go boil your head Support your ******* team instead! As we back ours and know that then We Go Again.
So Chelsea came and things went wrong And now they sing that ******* song And flood the web with endless memes Our captain's slip, their bitter dream. Don't let them take those words from him As if it's ruined by what they sing. Don't let them say he fell on his arse And gave the ball to Demba Ba. Because though he did, we know he slipped And from there they were well equipped To defend their lead, to waste our time, To keep their deep defensive line. We know that horrid twist of fate Was just one game of thirty-eight As Mourinho spouts his bitter chat. The Special One? The "Special" ****. I'll stick with backing Rodgers men. We Go Again.
I'm proud of reds who backed their team And lined the streets as they made us dream. I'm proud of our courage and conviction As we battered all pre-season predictions. I'm proud that at 33-1 We oh so nearly had it won. I'm proud of our captain and proud of his words And proud I'll remain despite internet nerds Who hide behind computers and type on their screens And have no idea what that passion means. It means that they care, that they'll fight for the club For those in the ground and for those in the pub. For those who support us home and away And even the gloryhunters who turn up in May. The importance of that passion cannot be diminished Though our best season for years had a frustrating finish. You'll see how it matters next season when We Go Again.
[Edited on July 30, 2014 at 7:07 PM. Reason : ouch] 7/30/2014 7:06:55 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm shocked PL teams aren't fighting over Memphis Depay. I can't believe I haven't even seen a rumor linking him to Manchester United, which is strange because they're linked to every other Dutch player in the world." |
Must've missed the buzz at the beginning of the week. He apparently turned down a move to Everton based on LVG's recommendation that he stay in the Netherlands for another year, with an eye towards a United move for him in summer 2015.7/30/2014 8:36:25 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Preseason but Gerrard looks past it. Worst player on field for either side.
Jovetic can be really important if he stays fit because we know Aguero won't... 7/30/2014 8:41:58 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
sterling looks so good
sturridge actually distributing a bit! 7/30/2014 10:43:02 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
So basically United can spend £100m on transfer fees every summer and still be fine with FFP even without CL revenue? Not complaining because they have massive revenues but rather just asking... 7/31/2014 7:30:21 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
See big clubs will most likely never have any problems meeting FFP rules unless they generate a massive loss in a fiscal year.
Players are calculated as an asset on the book. Hence, like an asset, they are amortized over the life of their contract. For example if Vidal costs United 50 million and gets paid 5 million a year for 5 years then United will only record a liability on the books of 15 million in year 1.
So yes United may have close to 100 million to spend every year but that is largely dependent on player values with depreciation and of course the clubs ability to generate revenues and break even. 7/31/2014 8:15:38 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Of course, the ability to generate the same level decreases every year without Champions League but I don't suspect that will be a long term problem for United. For example, I just read this morning that their Adidas deal goes down 30% per season if they are not in CL.
I also thought you only amortized the transfer fees, not the transfers/wages total. Could be wrong though. 7/31/2014 8:50:14 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
I have no idea if Dier is any good, but he turns into a beast on FIFA 7/31/2014 10:03:20 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Yes a lot of sponsors are going down that route. Also United would stand to gain much more if the opposite were to happen and were to win a few trophies.
Yes transfer fees are amortized with wages. So the profit is any revenue generated by the club and then the liabilities are of course the transfer fees and wages. I believe on the liability side the only thing that counts against FFP is the transfer and wages, not the club liabilities through facilities upkeep and incidentals. Of course that does indirectly effect FFP and has an impact on the club. 7/31/2014 12:04:07 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think so. Everything but training facilities and youth development costs are included in the yearly profit/loss total. 7/31/2014 12:23:31 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Arsene will start a team full AMs one day. Quintero? He's got massive potential but give me a fucking DM! 7/31/2014 5:58:17 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Lampard? 8/1/2014 6:15:41 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
If anybody's going to the game tomorrow in Charlotte, I'll be the guy in the Liverpool jersey. 8/1/2014 8:12:01 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
^Everybody in this thread (that lives within a few hours drive of Charlotte) will be there. Why wouldn't they? 8/1/2014 9:06:37 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not going unfortunately, but I've got family visiting from out of town. 8/2/2014 6:41:05 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
^^ because some people don't want to pay $50 to watch a team they don't support play a meaningless friendly?
In other news just got tickets to be at Camp Nou on August 24th on opening day! Should be epic. 8/2/2014 1:14:53 PM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
Should we just go ahead and hand Sanogo the Golden Boot? 8/2/2014 2:49:04 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Nope, because this year is Ashley Young's year! 8/2/2014 7:36:11 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
early derby day! I am pretty excited. Expect to walk alone and feel pretty lonely on monday Liverpool. 8/2/2014 11:00:40 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Oh we back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIuFWNnhM3E 8/3/2014 12:20:46 PM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
The WatchESPN app creating a whole new generation of United haters one day at a time. 1 out of every 3 commercials is that god damn United/Chevrolet commercial. I want to kill something every time it comes on. 8/3/2014 6:05:37 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Poch might be our best signing of any kind in a looong time.
He's really progressive in his approach to the game and how we condition/train. I think he's going to do big things at WHL before heading to Madrid. 8/3/2014 8:06:19 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I don't care who Liverpool is playing, I'm not going to get excited about the 5th preseason friendly in 12 days. It would be really awesome if players would stop getting hurt too. 8/4/2014 10:41:43 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Looking forward to all the LVG has as many trophies in two weeks as Wenger has in nine years tweets.
Just like all the United fans did after the Community Shield last year with THE CHOSEN ONE.
[Edited on August 4, 2014 at 12:52 PM. Reason : x] 8/4/2014 12:52:10 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
LOL. 8/4/2014 2:41:55 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
^^well, it was true then.... still true now. 8/4/2014 6:47:13 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Lol at the announcer calling rickie fucking lambert a world class striker. 8/4/2014 8:19:03 PM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
did the announcer just say Rooney had "lost his hair a bit"? 8/4/2014 9:37:10 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Crushing blow to United's top four prospects with the news Howard Webb is retiring. 8/6/2014 8:23:27 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Van Gaal has "doubts" about Vidal's knee. Of course that's why they haven't signed him yet. 8/6/2014 8:35:12 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
^ oh you scousers are so cute. Of course Sanchez only moved to Arsenal for London, of course!
Can't be the fact that Arsene Wenger is one of the best managers in the game compared to Sir Brenden Rodgers the former treble winner of Swansea & Reading. Why would Sanchez not want to play for him? 8/6/2014 9:14:34 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ You mean the Howard Webb that gave liverpool 3 penalties at Old Trafford last year? Oh what a big blow to United. 8/6/2014 9:22:48 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
it's too early to be this mad wazza 8/6/2014 9:24:23 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
oh wazza you posted almost that same exact thing already in this thread once and didn't get a bite. The difference between you and me is that you actually buy all that club-speak bullshit that United puts out. 8/6/2014 9:38:52 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
^ United hasn't said anything about Vidal, are you so ignorant on purpose? No one knows anything about Vidal, no one even knows United is interested. Its you buying into the media bullshit, not me buying into whatever United has "said."
Hilarious. Also I wouldn't be mad at all if United didn't sign anyone else this transfer window. I am a big believer in youth and Van Gaal has a very good track record with young academy players. It would be great if Vidal were to come but I would be even more happy if an academy kid broke through.
[Edited on August 6, 2014 at 9:44 AM. Reason : .] 8/6/2014 9:42:36 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I was replying to your reference about Rodgers talking about Sanchez. Hilarious. 8/6/2014 9:48:24 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
You are referencing bullshit that united puts out that I supposedly believe to prove that you don't buy into what Rodgers said?
Fantastic, I didn't think you were so naive to buy into it anyway. So how does that explain that I buy into club speak? lol. Its very clear when clubs are saying something to save face and when they actually are telling the truth. I don't understand why you believe I buy into everything that United says but hey why does that matter? Its a lot more fun when libel is involved. 8/6/2014 9:55:50 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I think you're confusing what RAWK says with what aimorris says..
Also, you very easily get mad.
[Edited on August 6, 2014 at 9:59 AM. Reason : Libel? Shits getting litigious in here and the season hasn't even started!] 8/6/2014 9:58:30 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
lol who is mad? Its football I only get mad for about 2 hours after my team losses, not over a difference of opinion. 8/6/2014 10:04:05 AM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
LOL libel 8/6/2014 10:06:12 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Crazy how many great CMs United has turned down in the past two seasons. Ozil, Kroos, Fabregas and now Vidal.
I get it. They need SUPER QUALITY to replace Cleverley, Fellaini and Fletcher... not those bums. 8/6/2014 11:41:36 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Crazy how people believe media stories so easily!
Also just for your information United were clearly interested in Fabregas last year and didn't get him. So that means he rejected us this year and we were interested?
Do you realize how agents operate in football? When a player of Ozil's caliber is set to leave I am sure big clubs know about it and have been approached about it. Arsenal weren't the only one's offered Ozil if the agent is worth a damn.
So gullible you lot. 8/6/2014 1:58:02 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Sounds like Spurs had a bid accepted for Depay with Chadli going the other way.
[Edited on August 6, 2014 at 2:14 PM. Reason : COYS] 8/6/2014 2:14:26 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
oh please god Yedlin don't go to Spurs. Would be a dumb move. 8/6/2014 2:29:12 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
agreed 8/6/2014 2:30:59 PM |