thegoodlife3 All American 39177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "humor is dead in this country anyways" |
bad humor, maybe
I just went to a great set last weekend. humor is alive and well.2/28/2017 1:27:40 PM |
afripino All American 11374 Posts user info edit post |
as a black person who has been gainfully employed for the entirety of my adulthood as well as the majority of my teenage years....
...you're stupid. that was not funny. don't quit your day job.
how it really is:
Quote : | "im saying this woman pretended to be black and is now struggling with something blackunemployed people struggle with" |
2/28/2017 1:28:41 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
wait, so institutionalized racism isnt a thing now?
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 1:33 PM. Reason : its kinda funny] 2/28/2017 1:31:47 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
its funny like pepe jokes and carrying milk jugs is funny 2/28/2017 1:36:34 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Idc if anyone thinks the joke is bad, but there's nothing to be offended by. 2/28/2017 1:40:56 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
ah, the Milo response 2/28/2017 1:52:00 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39177 Posts user info edit post |
the fucking gall to stand up for your shitty attempt at humor and blame humor being dead in America.... 2/28/2017 1:57:39 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
anyone who watches snl in 2017 and enjoys it is part of the problem 2/28/2017 2:00:01 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 2:00 PM. Reason : Double post]
2/28/2017 2:00:01 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39177 Posts user info edit post |
what problem? 2/28/2017 2:15:59 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
humor being dead
there's plenty of great comedy, but if you're in the mainstream these days, you pick the low hanging fruit and avoid topics that can be misinterpreted as "offensive". otherwise, you risk becoming a pariah, losing your job, etc. See: Nick Cannon, pewdiepie 2/28/2017 2:27:27 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39177 Posts user info edit post |
haha. you're so hilariously wrong.
what did Nick Cannon do?
and why did you feel the need to bring up SNL? their absurdly successful formula has been the same for 40+ years
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 2:36 PM. Reason : .] 2/28/2017 2:34:21 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
If I'm wrong, then so are a lot of top comedians who have commented on the same thing.
Nick Cannon made a joke about NBC taking away his black card, and it's being painted as "off color" 2/28/2017 2:37:42 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39177 Posts user info edit post |
the top comedians who are making more money while on tour now than ever before? 2/28/2017 2:40:19 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/social-media-ruining-comedy 2/28/2017 2:43:35 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39177 Posts user info edit post |
lotta great comedy minds over at the New Yorker
(and I'm a fan of the New Yorker) 2/28/2017 2:54:20 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Hes talks about the experiences of other comics. It's a good read and takes on more than one perspective. 2/28/2017 3:03:44 PM |
Big4Country All American 11907 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Dolezal says she’s jobless, has only been offered employment in reality television and porn " |
LOL!2/28/2017 3:08:39 PM |
afripino All American 11374 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/adultswim-ruining-comedy
the liberals aren't to blame for you not being funny. you just aren't. no one said they were offended, no one said SNL made them think you weren't funny (who the fuck still watches SNL???), and if there's anything to blame for humor being dead in America, it's the shitty joke that you're attempting to pass off as humor. you're lowering the bar for what's considered funny and it's just sad at this point.
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 3:11 PM. Reason : any rush limbaugh-esque name-puns you wanna run off while you've got the audience cracking up?] 2/28/2017 3:09:31 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
damn dude, you got me. ill leave this thread and turn hannity back on 2/28/2017 3:22:47 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50084 Posts user info edit post |
Good lord, he already admitted it was a bad joke. Why are people losing it?
And there is some truth that the PC culture has made it far more risky for comedians to really push the limits. But that's the nature of the always-on, highly connected world we are in now. 2/28/2017 3:23:14 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
its not that this is a subject that's off limits to humor, its just that your joke was shitty and racist. humor can be racist and not funny, not all humor about race is racist, if something is offensive or not has a lot to do who is saying it, how clever it is, etc... you can't seem to understand any of these nuances, but good comedians are able to walk that line.
there are times when people over react to humor, or decide that someone had ill intentions for a mistake or misunderstanding. i don't think that you meant to make a racist joke, but its an issue that you can't recognize that your joke was racist and instead of just being like "oh shit, that came out wrong, my bad" you went with the Milo response of "its true, nothing to be offended about, sorry you are offended"
tl;dr your joke was basically "haha, she's poor, now she's like the blacks" and you don't seem to have the cleverness or nuance required to effectively make a joke about a sensitive subject without it being offensive
Quote : | "Good lord, he already admitted it was a bad joke. Why are people losing it?" |
lol, no, he said: Idc if anyone thinks the joke is bad, but there's nothing to be offended by i.e. the milo yiannopoulos response
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 3:29 PM. Reason : .]2/28/2017 3:28:17 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Or maybe it wasn't at all racist and you lack the nuance to understand the irony behind it? 2/28/2017 3:38:15 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
nah, it was racist
the addition of "real" is maybe what tipped the scale
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 3:39 PM. Reason : .] 2/28/2017 3:38:39 PM |
afripino All American 11374 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So she can't find a job and is forced to live on subsidies, just like real black people...is that irony or coincidence?" |
that's where the funny left the building.2/28/2017 3:41:31 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
yes...real black people, not a white person pretending to be black
are we all aware of the context here?
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 3:47 PM. Reason : .] 2/28/2017 3:44:50 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " instead of just being like "oh shit, that came out wrong, my bad" you went with the Milo response of "its true, nothing to be offended about, sorry you are offended"" |
2/28/2017 4:00:52 PM |
afripino All American 11374 Posts user info edit post |
you can always phone a friend if you need a clue...
and here was the original context:
Quote : | "black people are unemployed at 2x the rate of white people
im not saying its their fault
im saying this woman pretended to be black and is now struggling with something black people struggle with " |
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 4:07 PM. Reason : hint: if you have to explain the joke, it probably wasn't funny to begin with]2/28/2017 4:02:49 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
I'm mostly with adultswim on this one, as I basically had the same reaction.
In reality, she grew up a relatively privileged white chick and went out of her way to co-opt and appropriate 'blackness' for her own gain, and she did so by lying to everyone about her past and insinuating that she'd personally had to deal with the trials and tribulations of being born black in America. Now, she'll get to see what it's really like having to deal with oppression, and it's 100% her own damn fault.
His wording was awkward and tone deaf, but the point still stands.
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 8:35 PM. Reason : .] 2/28/2017 8:33:50 PM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " if you have to explain the joke, it probably wasn't funny to begin with" |
The humor of the joke isn't really up for debate, because it was obviously not humorous.
What is being debated is how racist the joke was, on a scale from "I wouldn't say that in front of a black person" to "Racist as fuck"]2/28/2017 8:48:48 PM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
and i'll give you hint: if you refer to a racial group by disparaging them as a singular poor as fuck monolith you're being racist.
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 8:52 PM. Reason : you can try and make excuses about the delivery but it doesn't lessen the reality of that "joke," nor did his cop out attempt saying "humor is dead"]] 2/28/2017 8:48:48 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
His biggest mistake was using the "I'm just kidding!" or "It's a joke, quit being so sensitive!" defense.
It is somewhat ironic that a white woman pretending to be black now has to face hardships that many poor black people have to endure- especially when you consider the fact that she grew up somewhat privileged.
But the way he said it was bad and his defensive attitude didn't do him any favors. Let this be a lesson we can all learn from. In the world of online arguments, it's important to remember that people are always out to make you look stupid. Cheer up, adultswim!
[Edited on February 28, 2017 at 9:34 PM. Reason : .] 2/28/2017 9:31:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148222 Posts user info edit post |
If Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle had told the joke, would you people be getting as bent out of shape? 2/28/2017 9:47:43 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39177 Posts user info edit post |
2/28/2017 10:08:15 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "His biggest mistake was using the "I'm just kidding!" or "It's a joke, quit being so sensitive!" defense.
It is somewhat ironic that a white woman pretending to be black now has to face hardships that many poor black people have to endure- especially when you consider the fact that she grew up somewhat privileged.
But the way he said it was bad and his defensive attitude didn't do him any favors. Let this be a lesson we can all learn from. In the world of online arguments, it's important to remember that people are always out to make you look stupid. Cheer up, adultswim! " |
oh i'm not upset. a couple people who are generally assholes picked apart and misinterpreted a dumb joke, and then a couple more assholes jumped on the bandwagon. it's all good. thank you for being reasonable about this dumb thing.2/28/2017 11:13:22 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39177 Posts user info edit post |
you had two black people call you out on it and then had others specify why you were wrong
you generalized an entire race
a bit like the behavior of some Bernie Bros 3/1/2017 12:56:20 AM |
afripino All American 11374 Posts user info edit post |
^^If you're searching for the asshole here, find a mirror. Now you're name-calling and continuing the lowering of the bar. What's next, you dumb bitch? Haha...Just kidding. 3/1/2017 7:59:38 AM |