Wow, in today's moron society that runs off Twitter mouth breathers, be they the president or journalists that jump to conclusions, we made a mountain out of a molehill. I'm shocked.

[Edited on June 23, 2020 at 10:20 PM. Reason : .]

6/23/2020 10:19:04 PM

It wasn't journalists, it was nascar itself that made this a story.

6/23/2020 10:57:00 PM

It was going to get out. Better to meet it head-on than try to pass it off as no big deal.

6/23/2020 11:03:29 PM

still impressed with how they responded

6/23/2020 11:10:49 PM

yeah, can't really argue with how nascar handled it.

6/24/2020 6:25:43 AM

And the show of support for Bubba before the race Monday was organized by drivers and teams. Supposedly Jimmie Johnson got it started and everyone joined in. Anyone who thinks NASCAR or anyone else in the sport would make this up as a publicity stunt is a moron.

6/24/2020 11:35:06 AM

Bomani Jones roasting flyin ryan, essentially
https://youtu.be/0ZpAfh5EUww

6/24/2020 10:23:48 PM

glorious

6/24/2020 11:01:30 PM

I liked what the daily show (and bubba wallace being interviewed on the daily show) had to say about this incident.

6/25/2020 12:16:35 AM

^^^so, i'm not all that familiar with will cain. i was gonna ask if he was similar to a clay travis or barstool sports type guy based on that video. and then i googled him and i see he's leaving espn to go work for fox news and i think i have my answer.

6/25/2020 6:54:00 AM

Yea the Twitter account where I found that basically said Cain was espns appeal to maga/racists.

6/25/2020 8:11:59 AM

The mother fucker said the main reason for racism in 1865 was slavery. Which....doesn’t even make sense.

6/25/2020 10:22:53 AM

and he said all of it with that stupid fucking sports radio voice

6/25/2020 10:30:35 AM

Nascar should bear the brunt of the criticism. It should take about 5 fucking minutes to realize what that was. Especially since that one talladega stall isn't the only place its been used across garages in nascar. I've seen fan pictures on twitter of more than one garage area in nascar where that type of knot is tied to pull and open garage doors. You tie that specific knot so you can put your hand through it and not get rope burn when the door flys open quickly. Just walking through the garage area and asking the team members, "is there any logical reason why this should/would be here?" would have fucking ended it. I don't think nascar used this as an opportunity to parade Bubba around for the news, but I do think they saw this as an opportunity to show how against racism nascar actually is. Which I can't truly fault them for, as nascar has long been looked at as a "racists sport". I'm good with doing away with the battle flag of virginia, i'm good with them trying to get out in front of the story if there was one.....but there shouldn't have been one from the beginning and it sure as shit shouldn't have taken 15 FBI agents to figure it out.

As for Bubba Wallace. I've liked bubba alot. I raced against him in iracing numerous times, love his personality and like his, "I'm a racer, i'm black, i don't give a shit" attitude. I've routinely pulled for him and have wanted him to get a win for himself and petty motorsports since he joined up. I'm not part of the "Bubba Smollett" crowd as I think the two incidents are completely incomparable and Bubba had no part of the creation of this stupidity monster. However, going on the view and calling anyone that questioned this noose as "simple minded" made me shake my head. The only people in this world that are "simple minded" are those that take what they hear from twitter and run with it as 100% truth. If you didn't question it or wait for the facts to come out, as so many didn't, then YOU, in fact, are the simple minded one. I always wait for facts and evidence to show before making an opinion on a topic. As everyone should. Using your brain and exercising patience is not being "simple minded". His second mistake was going on don lemon after this came out and basically doubling down that it "wasn't a door pull" and its "still a noose". Showed complete ignorance and did nothing but throw gas on a fire that was already put out. Had he gone on there and said, "I appreciate Nascars support and my fellow drivers support. Thankfully this was not a hate crime but a complete misunderstanding. I think we can all understand the reaction due to the history of nooses and black people and I again thank Nascar for supporting me and every other black team member in the garage. I hope we continue to have discussions and move forward with progress"...who would have had something bad to say to him about that??? Could have gotten cheers from about every side of the coin. Instead...he basically calls everyone fools and says, "eh...still a noose though". Lost alot of respect for him with how he handled the situation, not because of his color.

I'm glad the "noose" became nothing, I thought the show of support from drivers on sunday was amazing no matter the outcome. But the way it was handled was pretty poor all around.

6/25/2020 11:31:27 AM

Quote :

" If you didn't question it or wait for the facts to come out, as so many didn't, then YOU, in fact, are the simple minded one"

idk, if i'm a black guy and somebody tells me the that my employer has found a noose at my workplace and they will get the fbi involved to investigate then i might respond irrationally.

6/25/2020 11:52:40 AM

whole lotta masks coming off

6/25/2020 12:04:52 PM

I'm not 100% sure and don't have the posts together back it up, but I think wp2105's mask was off a long time ago

6/25/2020 12:23:03 PM

here’s a link that backs that up:
https://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=644888&page=14#16218740

I thought I’d remembered him being like that

6/25/2020 12:28:51 PM

https://twitter.com/jeff_gluck/status/1276188964488003584?s=21

So, I’ve stayed out of this until full information was out but it apparently wasn’t done with malevolence and was not done to be racist...But that’s a noose. And reporting it was absolutely the correct thing to do.

6/25/2020 12:31:43 PM

Quote :

"idk, if i'm a black guy and somebody tells me the that my employer has found a noose at my workplace and they will get the fbi involved to investigate then i might respond irrationally."

irrational responses are ok? I'd disagree with you on that in just about every situation.

6/25/2020 12:40:21 PM

Quote :

"here’s a link that backs that up: https://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=644888&page=14#16218740 I thought I’d remembered him being like that"

Sorry you hate the fact that hypocrisy is evil. Can't have it both ways. Gotta be able to call out racism no matter which race is being racist.

6/25/2020 12:41:09 PM

Quote :

"You tie that specific knot so you can put your hand through it and not get rope burn when the door flys open quickly."

I mean, it looks exactly like a noose. Maybe it's tied differently, but it seems that if you grabbed and pulled that loop, it would tighten around your hand (like a noose). And if it tightened around your hand, if the doorr flies up quickly, it would jerk your arm. It seems that there would be a better ways to tie a loop on a rope that you want to pull without tying one that would tighten around your hand when you pull it.


[Edited on June 25, 2020 at 1:09 PM. Reason : ]

6/25/2020 12:57:52 PM

http://twitter.com/MartySmithESPN/status/1276195737768988673

Quote :

" NASCAR president Steve Phelps says NASCAR conducted a "thorough sweep of all 29 tracks where they race, and 1684 garage stalls, they found only 11 total ropes that had a pulldown rope tied in a knot, and just one noose: The one in Bubba Wallace garage.""

http://twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/1276195912516358146

Quote :

" NASCAR says of 1684 garage stalls, only 11 have pulled-down tie rope with a knot & only Wallace's stall was a noose .... NASCAR also confirms that the noose wasn't tied like that in the garage stall at the start of the October 2019 race weekend, that it happened during weekend."

6/25/2020 12:57:54 PM

only took an hour for that giant post on this page to look even more absurd than it originally did

6/25/2020 1:26:30 PM

^ yup

Quote :

" irrational responses are ok? I'd disagree with you on that in just about every situation"

I already know we aren’t gonna agree on this so I shouldn’t bother responding but fuck it

I think Bubba’s reaction was totally fine. People were questioning if it was a hoax or if it was planted by him or NASCAR. And he called that simple minded. And he was right. Hell, I don’t even think his reaction was irrational. Although I wouldn’t fault an irrational reaction from him.

He absolutely did not say that anybody who wanted to wait for the full investigation before making a judgment was simpleminded. He was specifically responding to a question about people claiming it was a hoax. The results of the investigation do not make his statements any less valid.

6/25/2020 2:42:03 PM

Bunch of people becoming knot experts to deny the existence of racism

6/25/2020 3:30:40 PM

the 12 hours of pocono yesterday was better than i thought it would be, still think they should bust out their roval next year

[Edited on June 29, 2020 at 7:14 PM. Reason : x]

6/29/2020 7:13:49 PM

I feel like every Cup race I've DVR'd since they restarted has had a rain delay.

6/29/2020 9:16:55 PM

LOT of rain delays lol. Pocono isn't that fun to watch, but the race was pretty entertaining yesterday i guess

6/29/2020 10:15:44 PM

jimmie johnson snaps 663 start streak, came down with the Rona

asymptomatic

[Edited on July 4, 2020 at 7:44 AM. Reason : d]

7/4/2020 7:43:24 AM

Indycar today at noon. Xfinity at 3. All on NBC from the Indianapolis road course.

7/4/2020 8:21:30 AM

last 6 laps of the busch race were way better than anything we'll see on the oval today

7/5/2020 11:13:26 AM

Harvick wins. no surprise there i guess

7/6/2020 12:58:27 PM

^ Well, Hamlin in the lead and crashing with a handful of laps to go was.

Erik Jones crashed the exact same way earlier in the race. Seems Gibbs pushed their setup a little too far.

Quote :

"jimmie johnson snaps 663 start streak, came down with the Rona"

I'm sure Allgaier wishes he got more of a chance to do something with that opportunity than he did.

[Edited on July 7, 2020 at 8:01 AM. Reason : /]

7/7/2020 7:43:26 AM

Listening to Trackside from last night, sounds like NASCAR will not be racing at Watkins Glen. Throw in Sonoma was thrown out, the replacement stated from Adam Stern of the Sports Business Journal was "a road course in the Southeast". Which led me to instantaneously think VIR, Road Atlanta. It's not going to be the Charlotte roval. But it's likely going to be the Daytona road course they use for the 24 Hours. So non-restricted engines running at Daytona maybe.

(edit: Barber in Birmingham area would be fun, although how the tracks operate financially and TV rights fees to them work in NASCAR, they're not going anywhere new)

[Edited on July 8, 2020 at 11:18 AM. Reason : /]

7/8/2020 11:08:22 AM

Daytona road course it is.

7/8/2020 5:21:08 PM

indy tire deal: they need to remove a bunch of down force so guys have to slow down for the turns way more


Fri., Aug. 7 Michigan Gander 200 mi FS1 6:00pm
Sat., Aug. 8 Road America Xfinity 182 mi NBCSN Noon
Sat., Aug. 8 Michigan Cup 312 mi NBCSN 4:00pm
Sun., Aug. 9 Michigan ARCA 200 mi MAVTV 1:00pm
Sun., Aug. 9 Michigan Cup 312 mi NBCSN 4:30pm
Fri., Aug. 14 Daytona (road) ARCA TBD MAVTV 5:00pm
Sat., Aug. 15 Daytona (road) Xfinity 182 mi NBCSN 3:00pm
Sun., Aug. 16 * Daytona (road) Gander 153 mi FS1 Noon
Sun., Aug. 16 Daytona (road) Cup 231 mi NBC 3:00pm
Fri., Aug. 21 Dover ARCA 125 mi TrackPass 2:00pm
Fri., Aug. 21 Dover Gander 200 mi FS1 5:00pm
Sat., Aug. 22 Dover Xfinity 200 mi NBCSN 12:30pm
Sat., Aug. 22 Dover Cup 311 mi NBCSN 4:00pm
Sun., Aug. 23 Dover Xfinity 200 mi NBCSN 1:00pm
Sun., Aug. 23 Dover Cup 311 mi NBCSN 4:00pm
Fri., Aug. 28 Daytona Xfinity 250 mi NBCSN 7:30pm
Sat., Aug. 29 WWT Raceway ARCA 150 mi MAVTV 6:00pm
Sat., Aug. 29 Daytona Cup 400 mi NBC 7:30pm
Sun., Aug. 30 WWT Raceway Gander 200 mi FS1 Noon

7/8/2020 5:48:10 PM

An ARCA race on the Daytona road course. Wow. We'll end with 4 cars running.

As far as the Cup cars, setups will be interesting because they'll have to run significantly higher downforce compared to the oval, but their time on the oval should all be accelerating and they won't have the restrictor plates killing their engine's horsepower. So bigger holes in the air and every time we enter the International Horseshoe and backstretch chicane we see 2nd past 1st?

[Edited on July 8, 2020 at 11:29 PM. Reason : /]

7/8/2020 11:20:38 PM

^i think road course cars are like short track cars with way less down force

All right I'm ready for the 4 straight days of Kentucky to start tonight, wish it wasn't a shitty track tho

7/9/2020 4:01:09 PM

https://www.espn.com/racing/story/_/id/29454810/tony-stewart-ray-evernham-team-recreate-iroc-srx-all-stars

ok ok

7/13/2020 6:32:23 PM

^ very cool

7/13/2020 11:02:22 PM

i dont care the door numbers smaller and moved back tonight at all star race but the under body lights worst idea since the COT ricer wing

7/15/2020 6:54:56 AM

Both are goofy

7/15/2020 7:47:10 AM

I can see some justification in moving the numbers back so you can place sponsors in a more prominent position with more room under the windows instead of on the rear quarter panels.

7/15/2020 8:42:32 AM

Under body lights but only under the rear bumper

7/15/2020 10:00:32 PM

Man that was real shitty

7/15/2020 10:45:32 PM

i kinda dig the numbers slid back like that on each car. and the under body lights could have been cool, but only under bumper is kinda dumb

7/16/2020 12:27:32 AM

Race was better than it would have been at Charlotte but second race in a row the sticky stuff probably made racing worse

Last time we see ricer under glow I hope

7/16/2020 7:35:41 AM

Indycar last weekend raced at Road America. Wisconsin state government were allowing fans at races. Combined with Road America being gigantic at 4 miles for a lap, Leigh Diffey said it was the largest crowd in the U.S. for a sports event since mid-March.

7/16/2020 10:02:17 AM

lol at Kyle's height stick DQ

7/19/2020 2:32:15 PM