scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
Terrible start to second half 11/23/2023 11:11:52 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like another year where DJ Burns doesn’t draw fouls because…he’s big I guess? But also he fouls a lot because he’s…big? 11/23/2023 11:22:29 PM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
Middlebrooks is pretty terrible when he’s playing for us 11/23/2023 11:30:06 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
Bullshit flagrant against Burns. 11/23/2023 11:54:59 PM |
DonMega Save TWW 4201 Posts user info edit post |
These fouls are wtf
We look good 11/24/2023 12:03:05 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
Geez, these refs hate Middlebrooks. Any time he played defense he got called for a foul. 11/24/2023 12:04:40 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah these refs are laughably bad. Middlebrooks fouls out because a guy dribbled into a double team and fell down after losing the ball with no contact? Ok. 11/24/2023 12:05:11 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe Vanderbilt will get their best player back and this will be a good win! 11/24/2023 12:07:17 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I guess these neutral court tournaments are all made for tv inventory over the holiday weekend but these 2 teams plays playing a 10pm tip off in Vegas in front of 400 people is so dumb." |
Eh it's better than playing at home and no one showing up. Plus neutral court is better for net.11/24/2023 12:07:20 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
Taylor had a ton of hustle plays tonight. Love it. 11/24/2023 12:57:27 AM |
Kickstand All American 11592 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "these 2 teams plays playing a 10pm tip off in Vegas in front of 400 people is so dumb." |
Yep. The players probably don't even get to see the Bellagio fountains. Just transported to and from the airport for a measly 2 games.11/24/2023 1:35:16 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Eh it's better than playing at home and no one showing up. Plus neutral court is better for net." |
I get the net argument. But if you play a home and home with Vandy it wouldn’t be on Thanksgiving and I’m sure 10k+ would show up for a “name” opponent at PNC (I know that’s not a huge crowd but it’s more than would show up to watch us play Western Carolina and way more than would go to Vegas). I’m mostly thinking of it from a fans perspective. I get the NET stuff. And ESPN wants tv inventory for Thanksgiving…teams don’t mind doing it over Thanksgiving because fans won’t show up for a home game on Thanksgiving anyways. But it’s still dumb.11/24/2023 5:33:41 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
I mean fans don't show up for home non-conference games at all unless they're against a top 5 team no matter when they are. NC State fans cry about scheduling but never actually show up to games 11/24/2023 5:51:04 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
I’m not saying it’s gonna be a sell out if/when we play Vanderbilt at home (or on the road) in late November. It’ll definitely be a better crowd than when we play UT Martin though.
But the crowd size isn’t even the point I’m trying to me. Its just way better and more enjoyable as a fan than a 10pm tip on Thanksgiving night in Las Vegas. I don’t really get how you can argue against that. I get why these events exist. But the more enjoyable alternative is definitely to play a home and home with a major conference opponent(s). 11/24/2023 7:13:43 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
It's a struggle to even WATCH a 10pm game on Thanksgiving day much less travel to Vegas.
Hopefully the espn money and whatever other perks are worth it. 11/24/2023 7:56:28 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
On a game note, Keatts has recruited a ton of athletes that don't know how to play ball, DPJ looks like he can jump AND play basketball! 11/24/2023 7:59:01 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
T T T RIPPPPLE POST
Quote : | "BYU forward Atiki Ally Atiki was involved in a skirmish at the end of the game and was ejected along with Noah Waterman, who left the bench.
If it's deemed a fight, both players could be suspended against NC State. Waterman had 24 points and 7 rebounds against ASU." |
(from Cory Smith)
Definitely a byu style fight https://twitter.com/TheFieldOf68/status/172795697332325178911/24/2023 8:03:18 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
This team feels a lot different from previous KK teams. More balanced scoring. More ball handlers and distributors on the floor. It’s very early but it seems like the defensive intensity is better. Very small sample size and I’m not even saying this is his best team. Just built differently than some previous teams 11/24/2023 8:48:41 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
BYU is 12 in KenPom! Didn’t realize how good they were. Hope we win by 17! 11/24/2023 8:58:50 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
BYU can score a lot of points 11/24/2023 9:10:13 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
They gotta guard us too pal? 11/24/2023 10:19:31 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But the more enjoyable alternative is definitely to play a home and home with a major conference opponent(s)." |
I mean we're still gonna play over holidays, might as well play them at neutral sites to get a lil net bump and not have to deal with lower attendance at home during those times. I'm not advocating playing at 10pm+ eastern time, but i have no issue with playing major conference opponents in multi-team events as opposed to home/home series. It's easier to play good teams that way. Maybe we can revive the Glenn Wilkes Classic since we are the reigning champions.11/24/2023 11:57:36 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
The 10pm was the most egregious part, 10pm again today. I didn't complain about the women's game bc 315 is kinda perfect for Thanksgiving day sporting event. 11/24/2023 12:29:51 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah well hopefully we'll never play in goddamn Vegas again 11/24/2023 1:16:48 PM |
Kickstand All American 11592 Posts user info edit post |
Wood's waiver denied. Maybe he can transfer to UNC and instantly start. 11/24/2023 2:15:30 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
I was about to say you're a few days behind but you're the one that posted it few days ago? Is there something new? 11/24/2023 2:37:08 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
^^^agreed, I'd hate to play in the 2028 Final Four in Vegas 11/24/2023 3:38:58 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I mean we're still gonna play over holidays, might as well play them at neutral sites to get a lil net bump and not have to deal with lower attendance at home during those times. I'm not advocating playing at 10pm+ eastern time, but i have no issue with playing major conference opponents in multi-team events as opposed to home/home series. It's easier to play good teams that way. Maybe we can revive the Glenn Wilkes Classic since we are the reigning champions." |
I didn’t want to start a fact based debate. I just wanted everybody to be like “hell yeah good point dms, this is egregious!” Just agree with me, dammit!!
But yeah…just keep it in the eastern or central time zones in the future!11/24/2023 5:32:34 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
BYU will be without one big guy today as the dude who threw hands in their game early this morning has been suspended for a game. 11/24/2023 5:40:42 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
lol at that being a flagrant/intentional. Jesus 11/24/2023 10:32:48 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Vegas making sure it stays close 11/24/2023 10:33:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
BYU needs to Be Buying some Defense 11/24/2023 10:43:03 PM |
F1V3LSU All American 1530 Posts user info edit post |
BYU clearly being allowed to play more aggressive defense because they are down double digits. such bs 11/24/2023 10:44:31 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Nah these refs are just bad. Called a pretty obvious charge on is as a block on BYU and then made up that call with the blocking foul on this and-1 when our guy didn't move and had position.] 11/24/2023 10:57:03 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
How are all these Mormons allowed in the city of sin 11/24/2023 10:59:30 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
I have also wondered that.
Also lol at the continuation allowed on that one 11/24/2023 11:00:49 PM |
F1V3LSU All American 1530 Posts user info edit post |
Commentators are dumb once again. Saying contact well after a block is a foul. 11/24/2023 11:07:06 PM |
F1V3LSU All American 1530 Posts user info edit post |
Man every time i watch college sports i am reminded how terrible of a product it is because of officiating. Basketball umps and baseball umps are just horrible. This is why track and field and XC are way better. dont have to deal with those morons 11/24/2023 11:16:44 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Byu down top two bigs so of course our bigs are DOMINATING 11/24/2023 11:23:50 PM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
We’re definitely gonna get fucked here 11/24/2023 11:46:28 PM |
F1V3LSU All American 1530 Posts user info edit post |
This is so stupid 11/24/2023 11:47:17 PM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
Well middlebrooks is no loss 11/24/2023 11:49:41 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Ernest ross so buried he's just "that guy on the bench"
[Edited on November 24, 2023 at 11:55 PM. Reason : Oh nm it was KJ Keatts that got ejected lol] 11/24/2023 11:54:17 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Some terrible perimeter/transition D 11/25/2023 12:01:45 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
How does burns not get a touch every time?? 11/25/2023 12:11:35 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Collapse 11/25/2023 12:16:08 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
Did y'all know Khalifa wasn't even expected to play?? 11/25/2023 12:20:03 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Lol all that and we somehow only committed 2 fouls in the half
[Edited on November 25, 2023 at 12:27 AM. Reason : These refs are goofy man]
[Edited on November 25, 2023 at 12:29 AM. Reason : Lol taylor didn't want to have to shake hands ]
[Edited on November 25, 2023 at 12:30 AM. Reason : "that's fucking bullshit and you know it" ] 11/25/2023 12:25:26 AM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
LOL at this garbage 11/25/2023 12:31:59 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Imagine being diarra and ross and you can't see the floor during that. I thought preseason Keatts said diarra was super impressive 11/25/2023 12:35:56 AM |