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justinh524
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Counterpoint: yes

He's a perfectly fine role player who stands in the corner to space the floor, but he's not some generational talent. Not even the best player from his draft class on his own team.

5/11/2025 6:02:58 PM

thegoodlife3
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nobody ever claimed he’s a generational talent

also, Trae Young exists

as does LaMelo Ball

[Edited on May 11, 2025 at 6:05 PM. Reason : .]

5/11/2025 6:05:15 PM

justinh524
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I would take both of those guys over chet.

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"nobody ever claimed he’s a generational talent"


Have you ever been on the internet? Because that has been a narrative since he was on college.

5/11/2025 6:12:24 PM

thegoodlife3
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presumed generational talents don’t get drafted #2 overall

that’s an extremely high bar that only 1 or 2 players every 6-7 years get labeled

5/11/2025 6:15:15 PM

justinh524
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You also don't draft role players who are like 4th option on offense with the #2 overall pick

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Kevin Durant says hi

5/11/2025 6:27:43 PM

thegoodlife3
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he wasn’t presumed to be a generational talent going into the draft. he turned into one.

there’s been like 3 players in the last 20+ years who were presumed generational talents when they were drafted

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so now you don’t factor in defense? you’ve changed so much in the last couple of days

[Edited on May 11, 2025 at 7:12 PM. Reason : .]

5/11/2025 7:10:04 PM

justinh524
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Durant was the first freshman to ever be NPOY. He wasn't some developmental prospect.

And yeah defense is important. But Holmgren isn't some all world defender. Especially when he isn't primarily playing center and acting as a rim protector (which is he pretty good at.) As evidenced by his 0 block 0 steal performance today (to go along with his 8 points on 4-10 shooting and no FT attempts) playing mostly as the 4. I mean we know why he's not playing the 5, because Jokic would murderize him, but still it makes him a much less impactful player because he's not doing anything special on D as a 4.

I just remember last year some people thought he should be ROY over Wemby and that is just preposterous to me. There's no way a sane person could actually watch both of them play and think they're anywhere near each other in terms of talent.

5/11/2025 7:56:59 PM

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love a one game sample size

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nobody is claiming he was a developmental prospect

5/11/2025 8:18:36 PM

StTexan
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I think either both should have been ejected or none ejected

5/11/2025 8:34:51 PM

TreeTwista10
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Chet already has 13 stocks this series, clearly he is the most overrated defender in the league

5/11/2025 10:54:25 PM

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#Stocks

5/12/2025 10:29:32 AM

thegoodlife3
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other than Game 1, the combo of Chet and Hartenstein have actually done a really good job of defending Jokic

5/12/2025 12:59:27 PM

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