The right objectively has more numerous and offensive commentators.

Unity through anger sells a lot better than consensus and understanding.

Progressives need to do a better job of communicating a unified ideology to fight right-wing misinformation and anger.

12/9/2013 12:41:11 PM

Quote :

"the right has nuts who carry posters with pictures of aborted fetuses why doesn't the left have nuts who carry posters of kids who blew their heads off with dad's gun that he got for their protection?"

Society LEGALIZES and even ENCOURAGES the specific causal action of one. That is, the left actively promotes the scrambling of babies.

The other is an indirect, unfortunate, and unintended consequence which no side wants. An unintended consequence of neglectful actions, sure, but the causal relationship is a little more obscured.

so...there's that

[Edited on December 9, 2013 at 2:14 PM. Reason : ]

12/9/2013 2:13:00 PM

Quote :

"That is, the left actively promotes the scrambling of babies."

uh, no they most certainly do not

this:

Quote :

"The other is an indirect, unfortunate, and unintended consequence which no side wants. An unintended consequence of neglectful actions, sure, but the causal relationship is a little more obscured."

is pretty close to how the left treats abortion

[Edited on December 9, 2013 at 2:27 PM. Reason : .]

12/9/2013 2:26:34 PM

buried on the bottom of last page:

Fox News had a controversial column about how Pope Francis is the Catholic Obama and we are all screwed:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/12/04/pope-francis-is-catholic-churchs-obama-god-help-us/

A Jesuit priest called it the worst column of 2013:
https://twitter.com/JamesMartinSJ/status/408370956176879616

Turns out the author of this column is the Fox News video game reviewer. That's hilarious.
http://www.foxnews.com/archive/author/adam-shaw/index.html

12/9/2013 2:28:14 PM

Quote :

"That is, the left actively promotes the scrambling of babies."

This is pretty disingenuous. Although I'm learning not to expect much more from you.

12/9/2013 2:39:29 PM

I DON'T KNOW WILL IT?!?!?!

12/9/2013 3:14:06 PM

HEY THEY'RE JUST ASKING QUESTIONS

12/9/2013 5:18:47 PM

<large font>Does ObamaCare cause cancer?</large font>

12/9/2013 5:54:15 PM

Quote :

"Quote : "That is, the left actively promotes the scrambling of babies." This is pretty disingenuous. Although I'm learning not to expect much more from you."

Sorry. The far left.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/nyc-mayor-elect-bill-de-blasio-pledges-to-open-more-abortion-clinics-close

by the way, my wife interviewed to volunteer at a crisis pregnancy center last week (it's basically a planned parenthood without encouraging abortion. Because of this, NYC's new mayor calls them sham clinics lol). The center is having to undergo an a major rebranding effort this year, so that they can avoid getting shut down, essentially having to disguise what they do. The tolerance of the left is beginning to reveal itself for what it really is. So much for alternatives. And there's only one of these centers left in Manhattan. Apparently that's one too many for de Blasio.

[Edited on December 9, 2013 at 10:41 PM. Reason : ]

12/9/2013 10:30:15 PM

Quote :

"Fox News Paid Fired Executive $8 Million to Keep Quiet"

http://gawker.com/fox-news-paid-fired-executive-8-million-to-keep-quiet-1479130678

12/9/2013 11:51:31 PM

^^Those types of places are often shams, run by pro-lifers. They often deliberately misinform women about the risks of abortion to try to discourage it and give them inaccurate medical advice. They're basically churches disguised as clinics. It's so good to know that your wife wants to be a part of that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_pregnancy_center

Also, nobody fucking promotes killing babies, so stop with that if you want to be taken seriously.

By the way, this has nothing to do with Fox News.

12/10/2013 8:18:34 AM

ohmy keeps losing more and more credibility ITT, those crisis pregnancy centers are dangerous scams and they shouldn't be receiving public money

and the far left is not promoting scrambling babies. maybe there are a few crazies, but not any significant or relevant percentage

[Edited on December 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM. Reason : .]

12/10/2013 9:00:51 AM

wow, i know de Blasio and the far left's distorted idea that tolerance is my way or the high way- abortion or else- but i didn't know you guys shared it. it's more prevalent than i thought!

a center that offers advice on adoption or parenting? how terrible!

Quote :

"may also offer additional non-medical services such as financial assistance, child-rearing resources, and adoption referrals."

YIKES! SOUNDS RLY BAD!

you mean some of them disseminate false information!? so we should shut them all down!?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell



[Edited on December 10, 2013 at 9:14 AM. Reason : ]

12/10/2013 9:11:53 AM

most of them disseminate religious counseling by people without medical training, so they should be shut down like Kermit Gosnell was. thanks for agreeing that what they are doing is criminal, lets throw them in prison too.

at the very least, their religious nature should prevent them from receiving any public funds. this is probably the biggest problem with them, and its one thats hard to argue against.

12/10/2013 9:36:27 AM

^right, but we don't shut down all abortion clinics because of Gosnell. It's a case by case basis. In the more progressive parts of the country, though, that's not the case with the crisis pregnancy centers.

12/10/2013 9:44:05 AM

just stop, ohmy

12/10/2013 9:51:42 AM

this thread needs to move to more important things

like omg obama shook hands with castro

12/10/2013 10:02:05 AM

Raul Castro

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/10/obama-shakes-raul-castro-hand-at-mandela-service/?intcmp=latestnews

12/10/2013 10:30:38 AM

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/john-stossel-poses-as-homeless-to-get-people-to-stop-enabling-their-drug-and-alcohol-habit/

12/10/2013 10:49:23 AM

Quote :

""may also offer additional non-medical services such as financial assistance, child-rearing resources, and adoption referrals." YIKES! SOUNDS RLY BAD!"

Oh look, the fucktard cherry-picked one of the few positive statements about them in that entire article. I have no doubt that those non-medical services would be heavily biased in favor of the church, as well.

Quote :

"the far left's distorted idea that tolerance is my way or the high way"

Not allowing unaccredited "counselors" to administer misleading and even dangerous medical advice does not equal intolerance. You don't don't get to scam people just because you're doing it on religious grounds. And screw making taxpayers fund them.

12/10/2013 11:19:16 AM

To keep this on topic, I present this gem:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-december-9-2013/moment-of-zen---12-days-of-obamacare

12/10/2013 11:20:28 AM

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/12/fox-news-host-megyn-kelly-tells-kids-jesus-and-santa-are-both-white-guys/

12/12/2013 2:33:01 PM

She is usually one of the less crazy ones too

12/12/2013 2:38:02 PM

><

12/12/2013 2:40:49 PM

he looks pretty white to me in this photograph.

which is odd since everyone I've ever met named Jesus was hispanic.

12/12/2013 4:07:37 PM

The Prince of Persia was a white man.

As well as The Last Samurai.

Not sure why the coloreds are so up in arms about these facts.

12/12/2013 6:10:04 PM

Daily Show pretty much just humiliated Fox News on the white Santa thing

12/12/2013 11:12:48 PM

[Edited on December 13, 2013 at 8:20 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2013 8:20:10 PM

you right

12/13/2013 8:43:49 PM

12/15/2013 8:38:57 AM

We really need a CBS/60 Minutes credibility thread, that NSA story was a joke

12/16/2013 8:28:55 AM

can you expand a little? i started watching it, but got bored after 5 minutes.

12/16/2013 10:04:36 AM

That's the point.

12/16/2013 10:20:52 AM

Well the correspondent used to work in the office of the Director of National Intelligence, but they did have a clear disclosure at the beginning but he never did anything except be incredible friendly with them. Then the story was just what the NSA wanted to say, it was a puff-piece.

They never asked any hard-hitting questions, like why Clapper and Alexander routinely lied to congress. When the NSA responded that they don't record phone calls, they never pushed back and pointed out that they are accused of recording metadata which can be even more revealing, they just accepted it as a good answer. The report didn't include any NSA critics, and the correspondent never asked the questions or said the things that they would have.

Some of their hard-hitting journalism was asking an NSA analyst to solve a fucking rubik's cube:


This "report" was NSA positive PR and that's it

Google the story and check out the response from everyone, some examples:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/15/5214452/60-minutes-softball-NSA-expose
http://www.thenation.com/blog/177598/sad-decline-60-minutes-continues-weeks-nsa-whitewash#
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/16/60-minutes-nsa_n_4452568.html?utm_hp_ref=media
http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/233681/60-minutes-reporter-didnt-want-nsa-story-to-be-a-puff-piece/
etc...

12/16/2013 10:21:01 AM

This is all a strategy by the NSA to root out dissent. Anyone who reacts negatively to the CBS report online will be targeted. The NSA will be looking for anyone that posts those blog links to identify enemies of the republic. You should censor yourself while you still can to protect your family.

12/16/2013 10:30:38 AM

the adults are talking

12/16/2013 10:31:00 AM

Just trying to save a brother from the watchlist/gulag. Cut me some slack, Jack! Chump don' want no help, chump don't GET da help!

What is Fox News' position on our fascist descent, by the way? Seems like something they would usually be cool with. In fact, why isn't Fox getting the all-access NSA pass? They should step up their game; they're being out-propaganda'ed by CBS. What is the the world coming to?

[Edited on December 16, 2013 at 10:40 AM. Reason : .]

12/16/2013 10:34:37 AM

12/20/2013 11:52:19 AM

1/6/2014 2:36:05 PM

Class warfare will def work

As we all know the poor will continue to turn on each other.

1/6/2014 9:21:04 PM

I DON'T KNOW WILL IT????

1/7/2014 10:02:27 AM

BUT I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE ALREADY DOING?!

1/7/2014 10:46:01 AM

I DON'T KNOW ARE THEY?!?!?!

1/8/2014 12:30:17 PM

^came to post

1/8/2014 1:04:24 PM

Quote :

"THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT is facing mounting criticism after officials say they've turned up no evidence that would warrant criminal charges in IRS targeting scandal, with conservatives now calling the investigation a 'sham.' "

1/15/2014 10:08:00 AM

1/15/2014 1:59:06 PM

so was 9/11. Or was it????

1/15/2014 2:31:05 PM

Slumdogs vs. Millionaires:

Part 1:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-january-9-2014/slumdogs-vs--millionaires
Part 2
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-january-9-2014/slumdogs-vs--millionaires---moral-hazard

1/15/2014 2:49:51 PM

I'm tired of all hearing all the right-wing bitching about Benghazi.....

1/15/2014 4:10:46 PM

yeah, it's like saying the LA riots were preventable. Americans lost their lives and it happened here at home. we knew that the Rodney King verdict was going to cause chaos, yet we did nothing.

Or did we????

1/15/2014 5:40:49 PM