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"-Has nothing to do with Obama staying on message and acting presidential, displaying superior intellect and temperance against his opponent."

haha right

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"-Has nothing to do with the financial situation and Obama's handling of it VS McCain"

back this with facts

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"-Has nothing to do with the way Obama's campaign has been run to tune of nothing elese we've seen in terms of organization and pure grassroots power"

grassroots in chicago = corruption ...acorn = corruption... do some research

grassroots campaigns are easy to manage when the media playes you as a messiah

fkn idiot

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"Has nothing to do with America being fed up with Rovian bullshit and this day next day overreaching acidic talking points, many fueled by fear, intolerance, and hate not to mention stinking of desperation."

i promise you 80% of people do not know who rove is or never heard of him ... made up stat, but bidens been doing it all race so i will too

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"Has nothing to do with the record number of Democratic registered voters that tuned in to the most exciting primary race in history"

ACORN

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"Has nothing to do with Bush's landmark approval ratings in the tank and the republican brand in shambles."

media has a profound effect on public image and thus can turn the public with such a combined effort that every media outlet besides fox has portrayed bush as demonic

10/22/2008 1:28:30 PM

*ahem* ^

10/22/2008 1:32:44 PM

racist

10/22/2008 1:34:09 PM

if/when obama wins i'm gonna go to EV and have some fun

10/22/2008 1:37:04 PM

haha, keep hanging yourself. Your responses are so fucking weak. It's like a desperate parroting out of old wasted up talking points despite the fact that the dogs just don't hunt.

OBAMA RESPONSE = MEDIA BIAS^20 x ((ACORN) + (ASSOCIATIONS +(CHICAGO + 100) x TERRORISM)^HUSSEIN x (BACK IT UP WITH FACTS LIBERAL!)

[Edited on October 22, 2008 at 1:39 PM. Reason : -]

10/22/2008 1:38:27 PM

10/22/2008 1:39:59 PM

Ohh lord

10/22/2008 1:49:58 PM

seems the republicans are blaming everyone except mccain and his shitty advisors

10/22/2008 1:56:24 PM

that tucker bounds guy shoulda been fired like a month ago

10/22/2008 1:57:58 PM

ill be the first to tell you his campaign could have been run better

10/22/2008 1:58:09 PM

^mccain folded to the few in his party that want to run a fear/smear campaign instead of sticking to what he usually does - i think that killed him - he's resorted to pulling stunts and he should out his advisors

10/22/2008 1:59:55 PM

Quote :

"grassroots in chicago = corruption"

Obama actually lost to another black guy during a run for congress in Chi in 2000, and the chicago "political machine" was against him during his state senate run. It was only after he lost a primary that he had to meet with some of their people and got their endorsement.

It looks like YOU need to do some research, although its obvious you only care about talking points and partisan hackery, so i'm guessing you probably will stick with your delusions.

10/22/2008 2:26:36 PM

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"and the media has backed obama through out the race, regardless of what he says or does its hard to have a negative image when every outlet portrays you as infalable"

This is so laughably false, it's amazing you believe it.

The media is solely responsible for Joe the Plumber, which is McCain's biggest attraction right now. Who do you think is interpreting "spread the wealth around" as Obama being a secret commie? Hell, who do you think it was that first started rumblings about Obama's upbringing in a "madrassa"? Not to mention Wright, the several times Ayers has cropped up, attacking Obama's wife, and asking him if his calm and coolness has anything to do with him being black.

10/22/2008 2:29:46 PM

Quote :

"It was only after he lost a primary that he had to meet with some of their people and got their endorsement."

he was also being financed and appointed to positions before that, and by this machine

review your history

10/22/2008 2:30:48 PM

^ did you get your info from chain mails or something?

Obama had to take out a second mortgage to fund his senate campaign while working as a professor, if he was financed, they did a terrible job of it.

Obama didn't come to Chicago on purpose, it was by chance that the only community organization that responded to him was in Chicago.

10/22/2008 2:34:03 PM

Still no response to my question:

I thought people could be expected to take care of themselves, and that's why you advocate less government control and taxes? If that's the case, why is the media's opinion (even though their opinion is valid) an excuse?

10/22/2008 2:35:45 PM

whats up with chicago hiring terrorist professors?

10/22/2008 2:36:42 PM

Oct 22 POLLS

TIME/CNN battleground polls:
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NV: Obama 51, McCain 46
NC: Obama 51, McCain 47
OH: Obama 50, McCain 46
VA: Obama 54, McCain 44
WV: McCain 53, Obama 44

RCP National Summary Election 2008
Obama McCain Spread
RCP National Average 49.8 43.0 Obama +6.8
Favorable Ratings +20.3 +7.3 Obama +13.0
Intrade Market Odds 86.9 12.7 -

10/22/2008 4:45:05 PM

^^^^^^
^^^
Besides that, people watch the news they agree with in the first place. People seek out news sources that reinforce their own existing opinions and constructs. This is done because cognitive dissonance is uncomfortable. Even in cases where people do watch news they disagree with, it's not likely to change their mind. I posted about this in the fox news thread a while back. The fact that their are conservative news outlets, even if there are fewer of them, means that the liberal or conservative bias of a particular outlet is meaningless on the whole. People simply shift their attention to a source they find comfortable or they become more entrenched in their existing opinions in response to the compatible or incompatible facts they absorb.

This is why Fox News's conservative perspective is a brilliant move from a business standpoint. As the only major news network with a decidedly conservative perspective holistically, they almost can't help but be the highest rated cable news channel. The third of Americans whose views are inconsistent with the more liberal leaning news outlets can't help but feel more comfortable watching Fox News. It's no wonder they flock to it. It is also not something I am in any way suggesting is a bad thing. Watching news that you consistently even disagree with- even if only on tone- is like playing in a band where the jackass next to you is always 14 cents flat. I sometimes wonder if Murdock has Hari Seldon tied up in a secret torture chamber deep underground in the Australian Outback.

[Edited on October 22, 2008 at 5:00 PM. Reason : ]

10/22/2008 4:51:47 PM

Breaking News: Americans will have no influence on who becomes our next president; the choice is all up to God!

Quote :

"Palin told Dobson that her “Christian faith” is her “foundation” and that in regard to the outcome of the election it is “all in God’s hands.”"

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/22/palin-the-election-is-all-in-gods-hands/

10/22/2008 4:59:30 PM

^I really really wish he had picked someone else. If he felt he had to pick a religious conservative I wish he had picked huckabee. The same people who love Palin for how her religious views mirror their own would have loved huckabee just the same. More religiously degenerate folks, such as my self, still like the guy for some bizarre reason and would not have been quite so scared off by him.

I wonder, would he have been better off now if he had chosen Tim Pawlenty, Joe Liberman, or Mike Huckabee instead of Palin?

10/22/2008 5:07:16 PM

I am ready for Nov 5th

I have a feeling this whole city will be partying its assoff

(Washington DC I mean)

10/22/2008 5:11:45 PM

^^ I could possibly pallat a McCain/Huckabee ticket a hell of a lot more than McPalin. Despite my differences in stance on certain social issues at least Huckabee speaks relatively intellectual.

10/22/2008 5:27:49 PM

Public Speaker of the United States
Vice Public Speaker of the United States

is that what you're voting for this november?

10/22/2008 5:29:04 PM

Well one of the presidents duties is to act as head of state and serve as the figure head for the US....

You do not think the president has all the knowledge and time to micromanage and create every policy to which administration executes???

Bush was not in my opinion a bad president because of anything he may have particularly did....
He was a bad president because of the screw ups, scandal, and bad decisions made by his advisers and secretaries that had the responsibility to run his administration.

10/22/2008 5:33:09 PM

As much as I see with the polls moving to Obama's favor I just have a weird feeling when it comes down to election day:

When that curtain closes or people are standing there in that booth - no matter how much they have talked about Obama being the man for the job it's going to be another thing for life long Moderate Republicans to actually vote for a Democrat.

You are always going to have your Republican - Frat boy, Tahoe driving, Lab owning, Ducks Unlimited, Rainbow wearing, Croakies rocking, Sperry havin' base that will vote straight ticket no matter what.

Same can be said for the Democrats.

But - In my opinion its the moderates on both sides and the independents that are the ones in this election that are all over the map and most unpredictable - poll or no poll.

10/22/2008 5:33:32 PM

^Lab owning? As in meth-lab or mad scientist lab? Either way I need to make some more frat friends.

10/22/2008 5:36:29 PM

dog-lab.

I went to the football game a few weeks ago against BC and was amazed by the amount of supporters that McCain had there. There was a group wearing hunting outfits and were handing out flyers in support of McCain.

One approached me and asked if I was supporting McCain. I immediately said I'm not, and asked him why he was. No answer. He moved along to the next person.

WHY are so many poor college kids (who would clearly benefit from his Obama's tax plan) in support of McCain? Seems like they are blindly supporting him IMHO.

10/22/2008 5:48:21 PM

Correlation-based logical fallacies? Rich people support McCain therefore if I support McCain then I will be rich.

Obviously I'm joking- since Warren Buffet is the richest man in the world and supports Obama.

10/22/2008 5:51:46 PM

because their parents are supporting mccain, and thats all they know
the same thing can be said for democrats too

but it looks like the swing voters have migrated towards the democrats this time around - which seems to sway the election everytime, no?

10/22/2008 6:52:16 PM

^^^ because the only other option is voting for a Tax N Spend Liberal who is black, friends with terrorists, muslim, hates America, and wants to teach Kindergartners about sex.

[Edited on October 22, 2008 at 6:57 PM. Reason : l]

[Edited on October 22, 2008 at 6:57 PM. Reason : l]

10/22/2008 6:57:03 PM

Quote :

"because the only other option is voting for a Tax N Spend Liberal who is black"

racist much?

10/22/2008 7:17:43 PM

^Surely you don't think he's being serious.

10/22/2008 7:20:02 PM

Well, he likes to rail against 'Lakisha', 'thugs', and other euphemisms for being black.

Doesn't really seem like much of a stretch to me.

10/22/2008 7:32:52 PM

Quote :

"CBS News has confirmed that the Republican National Committee spent up to $150,000 on what appears to be wardrobe and makeup spending at high end department stores for the GOP Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin."

Glad to see the RNC is spending it's money well.....

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/22/cbsnews_investigates/main4539410.shtml

10/22/2008 7:42:46 PM

This is going to get play like John Edwards' haircut, right?

10/22/2008 8:27:04 PM

Probably not.... Edwards' hair was a running joke before the haircut fiasco...


She's a chick, apparently she deserves to get money dropped on her like that.

[Edited on October 22, 2008 at 8:30 PM. Reason : .]

10/22/2008 8:30:10 PM

oh, this'll get a hell of a lot more coverage than that ever did

10/22/2008 8:30:34 PM

Lab-owning?

Hey now, I'm voting for Obama and I gots me a big brown Chocolate Lab named Poodoo

10/22/2008 8:46:13 PM

RNC's response:

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""With all of the important issues facing the country right now, it’s remarkable that we’re spending time talking about pantsuits and blouses," said spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt. "It was always the intent that the clothing go to a charitable purpose after the campaign.""

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html

Also....

Quote :

"The cash expenditures immediately raised questions among campaign finance experts about their legality under the Federal Election Commission's long-standing advisory opinions on using campaign cash to purchase items for personal use."

10/22/2008 8:46:40 PM

Quote :

"Obama: I want to help the middle class McCain: You cannot trust him, he pals with terrorists Obama: I want to give health insurance to those who need it most McCain: He is gonna bankrupt the country Obama: The Iraqis need to stand on their own so we do not have to send them our money McCain: He voted against the surge!! Obama: I want to cut middle class taxes McCain: I want to cut capital gains Even if Obama is lying through his teeth about all of this, one has to recognize he took the time to figure out what voters want to hear. I really like John McCain, but he could not have played in to their hands any better when it comes to being out-of-touch with the American people."

10/22/2008 10:54:58 PM

10/22/2008 11:12:04 PM

10/22/2008 11:13:23 PM

Quote :

" Hey now, I'm voting for Obama and I gots me a big brown Chocolate Lab named Poodoo"

Ah man, a chocolate lab. I'd be hungry at work all the time.

10/23/2008 12:00:25 AM

^^I want her to bite my neck.

10/23/2008 12:05:49 AM

BILL AYERS!

10/23/2008 12:14:13 AM

Joe "Plugs" Biden--The Human Gaffe Machine--strikes again!

Joe Biden at Seattle fund raiser transcript says Obama will be tested

Quote :

"And here's the point I want to make. Mark my words. Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. And he's gonna have to make some really tough - I don't know what the decision's gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it's gonna happen. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate. And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you, not financially to help him, we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

Quote :

"Only thing I'm asking you is, you know, gird your loins."

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/10/joe_biden_seattle_fund_raiser.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpiNfuG8YY8

Obama: "Joe Sometimes Engages in Rhetorical Flourishes"

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/22/politics/fromtheroad/entry4539164.shtml



[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 5:34 AM. Reason : PS: Sweet Jesus. ]

10/23/2008 5:33:34 AM

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10/23/2008 8:19:05 AM

AHA, I love watching clips of Biden.

My favorite is one when he was a young guy starting out. He was speaking with a constituent who was questioning him pretty hard. Biden's response was essentially, "I'm smarter and have more education than you so..." AHAHA

10/23/2008 8:32:19 AM

This whole $150,000 makeover thing is fucking ridiculous. The use of campaign funds for items which most Americans would consider to be strictly personal reasons, in my view, erodes public confidence and erodes it significantly.

10/23/2008 8:41:31 AM