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"There's been plenty of body builders who get obsessed with protein intake but end up dying of heart disease or stroke in their 50's or 60's because they ate so shitty when they were younger. "

there were also plenty of bodybuilders that ate really clean all the time but just ate a ton of food and got really heavy during their bulking phases. I remember reading that the Mentzer brothers would both bulk up to almost 300 pounds before going back on a diet to get around 230-250. Both of those brothers died young, along with the people that trained with them. The heart doesn't see much difference between fat and muscle - it just see a hell of a lot longer path it has to pump blood through. A lot of bodybuilders don't bother to do as much cardio as they should or never get above a good fat burning heart rate when they do it, so their arterial health doesn't match their muscular fitness.

the people that live the longest in life are the people that eat the least.

8/16/2010 1:04:10 PM

That makes a lot of sense. I guess it's about the equilibrium between eating healthy, eating the right amount, and getting the cardio in. I just don't think being in shape or burning a lot of calories should be an excuse for eating unhealthy.

8/16/2010 1:07:34 PM

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"the people that live the longest in life are the people that eat the least."

This is true. Animals with the slowest metabolism live the longest. Calorie restrictive diets have been linked to longevity.

8/16/2010 1:07:48 PM

My LDL cholesterol as of 2 weeks ago was fine. I appreciate your concern but its nothing i have not heard before. Doc didn't see anything wrong. He said all his patients should be so lucky. The after life isnt so bad worst case right ?

As a side note what kind of hike burns 5000 calories? To me that sounds outrageous!

8/16/2010 1:09:11 PM

Yeah i'm jealous. My mom's side of the family has a history of high cholesterol so i've always watched it.

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"As a side note what kind of hike burns 5000 calories? To me that sounds outrageous!"

Outrageous? Not at all. I meant my entire day probably burned 5000 calories. You hike for 6-8 hours and that's an easy 3000-4000 calories. If i add my BMR plus a run on top of that i've easily got 5000 calories.

Google "calorie calculator" and you can put in various activities and it gives you an estimate on how many calories that activity burns.

http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/cbc

That one's an example. Can even calculate your calorie burn from foreplay and intercourse! haha.

8/16/2010 1:15:27 PM

Most chain restaurants are practically a complete loss for healthy eating. Even the salads tend to have breaded chicken, a bunch of croutons, or some fatty dressing that send the calories soaring.

8/16/2010 1:24:17 PM

I always get dressings on the side. Dip your fork in it before you take a bit and you end up using about half the amount you would if you poured it out.

8/16/2010 1:42:41 PM

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"This is true. Animals with the slowest metabolism live the longest. Calorie restrictive diets have been linked to longevity."

now i'm getting depressed because if i want to live longer i should stop exercising more than 30 minutes a day so i don't eat anything. heh. Atleast according to calorie restrictive studies.

8/16/2010 2:16:50 PM

Morning

Pushups 3x30,25,20 90 second rest between each set.
Crunches 3x50,22,25 90 second rest between each set.

Afternoon

Pullups 5 max effort sets: 16,8,7,6,8 90 second rest between each set.

Super Set 1: 90 second rest between each super set.
Cable Crossover 4x15x12
Bench Press 2x115x12, 2x95x12

Super Set 2: 90 second rest between each super set.
DB Fly 2x10x12, 2x15x12
DB Incline Bench Press 4x25x10

Super Set 3: 90 second rest between each super set.
Decline Pushups 2xBWx12, 2xBWx10
Chest Dips BWx10, BWx6, BW-25X5, BW-25x3

Super Set 4: 90 second rest between each super set.
Machine Fly 100x10, 100x12
BB Pullovers 4x45x12

[Edited on August 16, 2010 at 5:02 PM. Reason : ads]

8/16/2010 4:55:14 PM

Ran five miles Friday afternoon, destroyed my upper body in the weight room Saturday, went swimming Sunday, running another five or six miles today, then weights and spin class tomorrow night. Cross-training with basketball or beach volleyball on Wednesdays, then spinning or swimming on Thursdays. Feels great to finally be settling into a routine where I'm working out in some fashion every day.

8/16/2010 6:25:47 PM

just got back from the gym. had a quick workout today, but i busted ass.

kettlebell snatch/clean and jerk - 3 sets each arm. 10 reps, 20lbs.
pull-ups: set of 10, 8, 5
incline press: 3x10x45
lat pulls: 3x10x100
tricep press: 3x10x70
calf raises: 3x10x185
leg press: 3x10x220

8/16/2010 6:40:33 PM

look at you!!!!!


call me at moms

8/16/2010 6:46:04 PM

went on vacation - exercised everyday except for the last saturday and sunday.... ate decently, didn't really go crazy but also wasn't eating super healthy - and only gained like 2 pounds when i got on the scale today. pretty pleased with that

8/16/2010 7:03:47 PM

Just got back from playing a couple hours of soccer as well. I'm going to be sore tomorrow.

8/16/2010 9:50:55 PM

Hahaha....d7f said "busted ass!!"

8/16/2010 11:48:56 PM

8/17/2010 12:13:49 AM

punchmonkey i saw pictures of you from the tunnel painting last night (no creeper ) and you're looking awesome

8/17/2010 7:39:39 AM

i rode 13.93 miles last night on a stationary bike in 50 minutes

first time I've been on a bike in a couple of years for a workout

8/17/2010 9:08:22 AM

hey thanks ma'am. Where are your pictures? My creeper turn!!!

8/17/2010 9:30:05 AM

Lol

I'm working up the confidence to post em... Probably by the end of august

8/17/2010 9:33:30 AM

do it!

8/17/2010 10:06:10 AM

I'll be in Raleigh 8/20 through 8/24. Does anyone want to work out? I'm planning to run at Lake Johnson or Umstead Park a couple of times during my visit.

8/17/2010 2:35:47 PM

Charlotte is cooler.

8/17/2010 2:36:15 PM

I do like Charlotte better in general but you gotta give it to Raleigh. There's some pretty cool parks close by.

8/17/2010 2:37:33 PM

8/17/2010 2:37:56 PM

I've never really explored Charlotte. Been there twice, but not long enough to explore the parks.

Super psyched for Raleigh. Ready for some golf at Knight's Play!

8/17/2010 3:19:38 PM

8/17/2010 3:36:43 PM

8/17/2010 3:37:24 PM

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"I'll be in Raleigh 8/20 through 8/24. Does anyone want to work out? I'm planning to run at Lake Johnson or Umstead Park a couple of times during my visit. "

I'll run Umstead with you if you want to do the 6 mile loop.

8/17/2010 4:10:23 PM

Sweet! Heck yeah!

8/17/2010 4:19:10 PM

^^I'll go too.
^

[Edited on August 17, 2010 at 4:19 PM. Reason : -]

8/17/2010 4:19:30 PM

I warn you ... I'm slow right now since I'm in my off-season. Prob 8:30- to 9-min miles for a 6-mile loop!

8/17/2010 4:57:24 PM

That's right up my alley.

8/17/2010 5:21:19 PM

^^ It's all good. The Umstead 6 mile loop is no joke.

8/17/2010 8:04:25 PM

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"Prob 8:30- to 9-min miles for a 6-mile loop!"

shit that ain't slow... that's my normal pace

8/17/2010 8:52:32 PM

ahhhh when the mountains turn blue the protein is good to go

champaign of protein shakes

8/17/2010 9:04:08 PM

PICS OF LUNAK DEMANDED!!!!!!

8/17/2010 9:42:33 PM

ugh, you guys want to teach me how to do cardio? I can't bring myself to do it after working all day, but i can muster up the energy to lift.

8/17/2010 9:45:34 PM

play some kind of sport? i don't know how people can walk in place either.

8/17/2010 9:47:05 PM

cardio is overrated

8/17/2010 9:48:00 PM

^ I hate cardio not unless it is kickboxing or my aquatics class.

[Edited on August 17, 2010 at 10:20 PM. Reason : or it used to be Ultimate.]

8/17/2010 10:18:43 PM

i want to add that my caloric intake has plumited to under 1000 daily for the past few days and i dont see it getting higher anytime soon

a. my schjool scedule is crazy. i ususally dont eat until 1ish and then again at 7ish, which isnt the really bad part...
b. my tmj has done a number on my jaw. and headaches. i tried chewing some steamed broccolli tonight and almost started crying in the first 10 minutes or so. i had some chicken in there too, took me like an hour to eat. i may be bound to soups for the next 2 weeks or so

8/17/2010 10:30:11 PM

Joie, have you talked with a rheumatologist?

8/17/2010 10:34:09 PM

the dentist has pinpointed it to a wisdom tooth on myt right side. it has come out full force and it taller than my other teeth

my jaw never gets to relax.

im getting it extracted next friday.


thats gonna be a long time.


it hurts really really bad.

8/17/2010 10:36:32 PM

I play video games while on the treadmill at the house. It helps to break up the monotony. Playing a sport is another good alternative.

8/17/2010 10:38:32 PM

^ only when a house guest doesn't screw up your treadmill

8/17/2010 10:40:31 PM

ouch, that sucks, Joie. Can you eat oatmeal with your jaw hurting like that?

and thanks for the cardio pointers. my problem is i'm not sure i can deal with people in any sort of sport after i get off work

[Edited on August 18, 2010 at 12:15 AM. Reason : ]

8/18/2010 12:14:26 AM

My hygienist has TMJ and had me feel her jaw at my cleaning today. Felt like she was chewing on rocks when she opened and closed her mouth.

8/18/2010 3:31:10 AM

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"you guys want to teach me how to do cardio?"

do you enjoy weight lifting? google/youtube "Tabata intervals" and "barbell complexes". Once you understand the protocol you can construct your own variation

8/18/2010 7:10:15 AM

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"Can you eat oatmeal with your jaw hurting like that?"

i dont know yet but im gonna find out


i cried last night from eating steamed broccoli


STEAMED MUSHY BROCCOLI

8/18/2010 9:33:25 AM