Mays wouldn't be here unless he had a redshirt somewhere along the way.

[Edited on January 30, 2013 at 7:52 AM. Reason : Same with Josh Davis I believe, but can't remember what class he was. Mays was with CJW tho]

1/30/2013 7:51:34 AM

guys tyler is not playing because he's terrible. Last night was by far his best effort of the season and it wasn't exactly spectacular.

I've been explaining for weeks that Purvis is being groomed as the backup PG. Our plan come tourney time is to play Zolonscopy for 38-40 minutes a game anyway.

1/30/2013 8:00:15 AM

I'm okay with Purvis playing point guard in the future when he's improved...just not now. He can't even keep a handle on the ball for longer than three seconds.

He's more of a liability at the point than Lewis is.

[Edited on January 30, 2013 at 8:02 AM. Reason : .]

1/30/2013 8:02:13 AM

Lewis is like Mays was when he played one here. He just does... nothing.

He is not gonna turn the ball over a ton but he also, at this point, does nothing to get us in to an offense.

1/30/2013 8:06:22 AM

But he also runs the offense. He gets the post players the ball in the right spot and doesn't turn the ball over. Remember all the turnovers we had in the last 10 minutes?? Distinctly I remember the shitty entry pass that was 5 feet away from CJL that went out of bounds. I also remember that nice play where Lewis faked the entry pass, drove to the top of the key while drawing defenders, and then made the nice pass to an open Scott Wood....the only wide open three he got all game that wasn't off a fast break (like the one he missed in the first half).

I'm not saying Lewis is great, but he's solid. And we were playing a team with two short, shitty point guards last night and he should have gotten a few more minutes.

1/30/2013 8:10:50 AM

Lewis should have been on the floor running the point at the end of the game. The howell/leslie/wood/warren/purvis lineup was awful in its offensive execution.

Quote :

" Lewis is like Mays was when he played one here. He just does... nothing."

This isn't true at all and they are completely different players. Mays is a sg that lowe tried to make a pg out of. He could always score, but was noticeably uncomfortable running the whole offense.

When lewis is in the game for more than 30 seconds it's obvious to see he is capable of making good decisions with the ball and isn't afraid of dribbling near the other team like mays. Also he can't shoot for shit.

[Edited on January 30, 2013 at 8:18 AM. Reason : .]

1/30/2013 8:13:11 AM

I think Lewis played decently...would liked to have seen more minutes from him

1/30/2013 8:17:36 AM

I said as of now and in a half court set the offense comes to a screeching halt every time Brown is out.

You can't run an offense well it you have little confidence and can't get into the lane.

(That Leslie entry pass was one of the few times he effectively ran a play.. Leslie just slipped otherwise he had good position)

1/30/2013 8:24:49 AM

Mays could score? You must have blacked out his sophomore year. I've never seen a guy miss more wide open shots. That guy was one of the worst players in Nc state history.


Btw, I saw trevor Ferguson out drinking after the Carolina win. I almost blacked out myself.

1/30/2013 8:28:51 AM

There's no question he's a huge drop-off from Brown...but everyone on our team is. Again...I'm not saying take Purvis out, just slide him over. I don't have any confidence in him finding Wood running off screens, consistently making good entry passes, and not dribbling the ball off of his foot every now and then. I do have confidence in Lewis doing those things.

Now if we play a team with a dynamic point guard, he's obviously a big defensive liability. But he can play against UVa's guards, BC's guards, Marcus Paige, etc.

1/30/2013 8:30:22 AM

lewis was better than purvis at the 1 yesterday but you guys have seriously short memories if you think he's been better all season. with the exception of last night our offense has been uva-bad every time he's in the game and he may as well not even be on the floor on D. really the only thing he had done well before last night was get mugged on every play but the refs aren't going to call a foul every possession

1/30/2013 8:38:56 AM

You guys can't read for shit.

No one is saying he's point guard 1b...he just runs a half court offense better than Purvis. That's all.

1/30/2013 8:41:13 AM

People treat Vandy the same way. Every time he lucks in to a rebound or blocked shot they act like he has turned the corner, which is absurd.

Lewis, at least, does have talent and basketball instinct but he is a long way from being able to consistently run an offense well.

^ I'm not really arguing with you. I agree with that. But it's really a "tallest midget" type thing without Brown.

[Edited on January 30, 2013 at 8:43 AM. Reason : D]

1/30/2013 8:42:02 AM

Purvis can't play the point effectively. Barber will come in and start immediately next year. Lewis will always be a back up.

1/30/2013 8:44:26 AM

Vandy might be the worst player we have played in non-garbage time minutes in 10 years. How bad was TDT if he got beaten out by vandy?

1/30/2013 8:44:40 AM

Quote :

"When lewis is in the game for more than 30 seconds it's obvious to see he is capable of making good decisions"

he had a couple good minutes last night but don't get all crazy. remember when he was on fast break the other day with purvis running ahead of him and DIDNT EVEN SEE HIM. wide open dude running ahead of him on a fastbreak and lewis just pulls the ball back. nice vision. he's shown he'll be serviceable in a few years but lets not get all crazy

1/30/2013 8:45:14 AM

Quote :

"No one is saying he's point guard 1b...he just runs a half court offense better than Purvis. That's all."

Except he doesn't.

Purvis runs the point like a freshman shooting guard.

Lewis runs the point like a freshman SoCon guard.

1/30/2013 8:48:06 AM

Quote :

"Btw, I saw trevor Ferguson out drinking after the Carolina win. I almost blacked out myself."

Sounds like somebody was at Raleigh Times

1/30/2013 9:33:50 AM

I'm not getting all crazy. I'm just saying if we are without brown for an extended period of time (such as the 2nd half last night) lewis needs to be playing pg, not purvis. He's a freshman who has barely played, but he is clearly the second best pg on the team.

The lineup with purvis as pg last night devolved into guys basically just trying to create their own shots, which usually ended poorly.

We will get demolished by miami if we play purvis at pg the majority of that game. (assuming brown is out)

1/30/2013 9:35:00 AM

I'd say let's put TBDV at point, because he's tall enough to see the whole floor and won't miss guys for passes

1/30/2013 9:36:58 AM

Quote :

" remember when he was on fast break the other day with purvis running ahead of him and DIDNT EVEN SEE HIM."

He saw him, he was just scared to make that pass...didn't want to make a mistake.

Lewis is a little too cautious. That can be good and bad. Right now...I think it's good. We don't need him coming in and turning the ball over...CJL does that enough for the whole team.

1/30/2013 9:52:05 AM

Lewis makes good decisions and he doesn't turn over the ball.

I think that's pretty good for a freshmen PG.

Brown has years of experience under his belt, as a slasher, scoring guard, and PG.

1/30/2013 9:57:06 AM

#TeamLewis4PG vs #TeamPurvis4PG

Who will win the heart of Mark Gottfried?

1/30/2013 11:09:36 AM

I see Purvis as a 2 guard, and a Slasher, and backup point to Lewis.

Lewis is a pure point guard.

1/30/2013 11:13:03 AM

I think Purvis could be a good point guard at some point...he's just not one right now. I've seen him make some pretty good passes (although he forces tough passes too often)...but he needs to be a little bit more cautious and he definitely needs to improve his handle.

Right now we need him spotting up for threes and flying down lanes on the break. Having him run the point takes away from that.

1/30/2013 11:34:18 AM

Purvis only ran more point than expected because Gotty wanted defense out there, which is Lewis biggest drawback now (albeit not his fault, just lacks size and can't play help defense because the only player he can guard is the point basically)

Lewis was fine on the offensive end. He's not supposed to be another Zo, he's supposed to do exactly what he did out there. Not turn it over and get the ball in hands of our scorers.

I'm sorry,,, this is just my strong opinion of how things went yesterday and where I really feel coach's head was at.

1/30/2013 11:37:15 AM

Quote :

"We will get demolished by miami if we play purvis at pg the majority of that game. (assuming brown is out)"

1/30/2013 12:32:45 PM

1/30/2013 12:36:31 PM

^^^ But UVa's point guard was horrible on offense. The only shots he made in the game were those last two fucking free throws ( ). He was passing up wide open shots all over the place. If there was a night where we shouldn't be worrying about Lewis on the defensive end...it was last night. He did get shot over once and lose a guy on rotation....but our entire defense sucks donkey balls at rotating on screens. It's fucking embarrassing.

[Edited on January 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM. Reason : .]

1/30/2013 12:40:03 PM

2/2/2013 12:25:09 PM

Great recruiter. Terrible game coach.

We are up by five with 94 seconds and dribbling out the fresh shot clock and you call a timeout? why? to draw up a play to run out the clock? pointless. What do we do? give the ball to cjleslie so he can pass the ball to the other team without running any clock.

they setup the press and you call no timeout.

Then we are down Down by 1 with 1 second and you call no timeout.

That was the worst timeout call ever.

2/2/2013 6:06:58 PM

shut the fuck up troll

[Edited on February 2, 2013 at 6:08 PM. Reason : yeah call a TO with 0.6 secs left, it'll make a huge difference when we have to go full court]

2/2/2013 6:08:05 PM

Bench the fuck out of scott wood

2/2/2013 6:09:46 PM

-1 drawing up an end of game play for tyler lewis

-1 having cj leslie get the ball in a FT situation at the end of game. call TO before passing to a bad FT shooter. this is recurring, remember when fucking 50% FT shooter tj warren was trying to ice a game?

2/2/2013 6:12:33 PM

Coach "Almost"

2/2/2013 6:15:24 PM

I, for one, am proud of how the team played today against the current leader in the ACC despite being without our team leader, PG and arguably our best player, all while having to rely on an inexperienced and undersized freshman PG that has barely played more than 5 minutes all year up until this point.

2/2/2013 6:15:25 PM

You bench wood guys are imbeciles, that would mean fucking Vandy would see more time.

2/2/2013 6:15:35 PM

Bet we go back to playing screens incorrectly when Brown comes back

2/2/2013 6:15:57 PM

No, it would mean lewis would get more time. No one said bench wood for the benefit of vandy. Give warren and the guys 35 mins a game. Give wood about 15. Dude is a complete liability in the game when he cant get open

2/2/2013 6:26:33 PM

^ you do realize that Warren was pretty awful on both ends (stop me if you've heard that before) today, right?

Quote :

"I, for one, am proud of how the team played today against the current leader in the ACC despite being without our team leader, PG and arguably our best player, all while having to rely on an inexperienced and undersized freshman PG that has barely played more than 5 minutes all year up until this point."

2/2/2013 6:40:53 PM

Im not talking about just today's game. Wood is at best a 6th man or second guy off the bench



[Edited on February 2, 2013 at 6:45 PM. Reason : J]

2/2/2013 6:42:11 PM

come on

I expected better from you

2/2/2013 6:42:47 PM

warren has had some really fucking bad games in the acc. and the last thing we need is more dumb freshman plays when we already have our junior PF making them.

2/2/2013 6:43:28 PM

Today certainly wasn't on Gott. We played well mostly.

But if we somehow don't make the NCAAs (which I fully believe we will have a MUCH better second half of ACC schedule) he would have a TON to answer to.

2/2/2013 6:44:35 PM

need some more bandwagon fans over on the Duke fans thread

2/2/2013 6:46:02 PM

Fuck off

2/2/2013 6:46:38 PM

all the bitch ass "duke fans" should be banned

2/2/2013 6:47:05 PM

Im all for that

2/2/2013 6:49:13 PM

But seriously, four losses by combined 7 points.

Our luck rating must be improving.

2/2/2013 6:51:04 PM

Quote :

"But if we somehow don't make the NCAAs (which I fully believe we will have a MUCH better second half of ACC schedule) he would have a TON to answer to."

fairly sure we already have more quality wins than herb's last two tourney teams combined. we pretty much have to lose out to miss the tourney. no problems with what gottfried is doing here. i think we're just spoiled based on how last year ended and how high the expectations were this year. still think this team is sweet sixteen or better.

2/2/2013 8:14:35 PM