smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In a notice of intent filed in court, federal prosecutors in Boston listed factors they contend justify a sentence of death, including his "betrayal" of the U.S." |
If the prosecutors aren't careful with their rhetoric, he'll end up walking free.(well, maybe he can't walk anymore since they shot him so many times) This isn't a gitmo show trial, after all.1/30/2014 8:51:53 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39177 Posts user info edit post |
someone done fucked up 4/15/2014 8:37:31 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
allegedly, this is the dude that left the bags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hYXbBjRvJyc 4/15/2014 9:47:20 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5844 Posts user info edit post |
What the fuck 4/15/2014 9:51:03 PM |
JeffreyBSG All American 10165 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I'm reminded of the guy from the Silence of the Lambs...really gay in a tremendously creepy sort of way.] 4/15/2014 10:47:33 PM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
Put him on Rolling Stone! 4/15/2014 11:19:53 PM |
Bullet All American 28263 Posts user info edit post |
I missed this from a few days ago, his sister was arrested for making a bomb thread to her boyfriend's ex, who shares a child with her bf
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/27/us/tsarnaev-sister-arrested-boston/ 9/2/2014 5:24:00 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89740 Posts user info edit post |
^ it sounds like their entire family is kind of crazy. Obviously the sons. Now the sister. I seem to remember there being talk of the mother being sympathetic to terrorist causes, and encouraging her sons to do crazy shit too.
I bet an argument with them goes something like this:
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148223 Posts user info edit post |
MUST WATCH! 9/2/2014 6:03:27 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
Is Alina Tsarnaev an american citizen? If not, plz to deport to an ISIS held territory via air drop with a broken parachute.] 9/2/2014 9:44:29 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42535 Posts user info edit post |
Boyfriend? Maybe they should have blown her up first for committing a big sin in their own religion before blowing up innocent people?
LOL, she even covers her hair... I am surprised she hasn't been "honor killed" by her brothers/family. What a weird family.
[Edited on September 2, 2014 at 11:29 PM. Reason : ] 9/2/2014 11:28:37 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
I dont think she has any brothers left.
One is in an unmarked grave somewhere in the northeast, the other is in solitary confinement in a federal prison. Hopefully there are no more. 9/2/2014 11:31:56 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42535 Posts user info edit post |
I mean, before they did their grisly deed... (assuming she had a bf before the bombing) 9/2/2014 11:32:47 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
guilty on everything so far
kill this motherfucker tonight 4/8/2015 2:22:35 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
^ 4/8/2015 2:30:26 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
should have just shot him when they caught him to save us all the wasted time and money on a trial 4/8/2015 2:32:07 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
They would have, but they ran out of bullets earlier that day shooting at black people. 4/8/2015 3:12:59 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Normally, I'd agree with you 100%. However, given the massive public interest in the case, I'm glad we have a trial which will at least provide a lot of information into what happened, and background as to specific motivations, ties to other groups, etc.
If they shot him, there would have been similar investigation, but how much would become public record is always sketchy.
that said, fuck this guy. 4/8/2015 3:19:25 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
KILL THAT MUTHER FUCKER!!!11 4/8/2015 6:14:57 PM |
Smath74 All American 93277 Posts user info edit post |
I haven't paid close attention to the trial, but were there any specific motives that were revealed for this attack? 4/8/2015 7:13:00 PM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "[he and his brother] were angry about the U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the killing of Muslims there." |
Quote : | " Dzhokhar's handwritten note inside the boat where he lay bleeding stated, “The [Boston] bombings were in retribution for the U.S. crimes in places like Iraq and Afghanistan [and] that the victims of the Boston bombing were collateral damage, in the same way innocent victims have been collateral damage in U.S. wars around the world."[64]" |
Quote : | "The brothers believed that an attack against one Muslim was an attack against all Muslims, CNN reports, and felt they were forced to respond." |
[Edited on April 8, 2015 at 7:19 PM. Reason : ]4/8/2015 7:16:48 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
He should be tortured to death. 4/8/2015 8:26:24 PM |
Master_Yoda All American 3626 Posts user info edit post |
Im just glad this is a federal trial. If it was a state one, hed never see the death penalty.
"Two years later, in response to the Oklahoma City bombing of a federal building, President Clinton signed the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996. The Act, which affects both state and federal prisoners, restricts review in federal courts by establishing stricter filing deadlines, limiting the opportunity for evidentiary hearings, and ordinarily allowing only a single habeas corpus filing in federal court. Proponents of the death penalty argue that this streamlining will speed up the death penalty process..." 4/8/2015 9:23:07 PM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
4/22/2015 3:43:10 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
SMOKE YOU
WRONG ANSWER... 4/22/2015 3:51:34 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Meh, give him life in prison, no parole, underground prison, 1 hour of day light, and solitary confinement for the rest of his life. Death is too easy for this nut job. 4/22/2015 3:53:39 PM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
I think one hour of daylight and an underground cell definitely qualifies as cruel punishment. 4/22/2015 4:07:53 PM |
acraw All American 9257 Posts user info edit post |
I agree death would be too easy for this guy. He already accepted death a long time ago. 4/22/2015 4:13:06 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
He is what 18? The ave life expectancy is 78, he is in pretty good shape so lets call him average, he could easily face 60 years of this. He will have to stay apart from the other inmates for his own safety.
I am cool with him not getting the death penalty so long as he is in 23 hour lock-down and does not get the optional TV. 4/23/2015 1:37:06 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/05/10-worst-prisons-america-part-1-adx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence
Quote : | "I think one hour of daylight and an underground cell definitely qualifies as cruel punishment." |
Watching one of your kids die, while you try to save the other is cruel punishment. I vote to make him a permanent resident of Colorado's Supermax. Inmates get 5 hours of sunlight a week there and permanent solitary confinement. I'm also fine with him having a TV, as long as it shows the same thing over and over again.4/23/2015 7:03:29 AM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
I think he 100% deserves to live the rest of his life in complete and total misery. However, I think there is certainly an argument to be made that sunlight deprivation and solitary confinement for a life sentence is cruel. Does he deserve it? Yes. 4/23/2015 9:20:46 AM |
stevedude hello 4763 Posts user info edit post |
^^lol reminds me of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQKZXGPKrOg 4/23/2015 9:55:41 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "SMOKE YOU
WRONG ANSWER..." |
nice pull4/23/2015 11:13:09 AM |
JeffreyBSG All American 10165 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think one hour of daylight and an underground cell definitely qualifies as cruel punishment" |
yes, it totally does. however, I'm not opposed to it in this case.4/23/2015 11:22:12 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Good news, all indications are he is going to end up at Supermax no matter what.
http://www.wcvb.com/news/5-investigates-goes-inside-tsarnaevs-likely-new-home-supermax/32351088 4/23/2015 11:26:26 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27740 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, pretty much anyone who does terrorist things is going to end up there. There really isn't any doubt. 4/23/2015 11:52:24 AM |
Bullet All American 28263 Posts user info edit post |
Death 5/15/2015 3:39:17 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Stupid, really fucking stupid. Now they will get 10+ years of appeals and millions wasted, when they could have sentenced him to 60+ years of 23 hour solitary confinement in supermax. Which is a fate worse than death. 5/15/2015 3:42:26 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
^how much money do you think 60 years of confinement in prison costs? 5/15/2015 3:44:27 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27740 Posts user info edit post |
It's free, duh. 5/15/2015 3:46:19 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
I actually typed out a real response but you two are fucking dense idiots so continue. 5/15/2015 3:57:34 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
5/15/2015 4:11:12 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
I wish it wasn't considered cruel and unusual to make a perpetrator die the same death of his victims.
Justice would be just a cheap ass IED away. 5/15/2015 4:15:06 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
We could keep him in prison until he develops an expensive medical issue, and then release him with no health insurance.
[Edited on May 15, 2015 at 4:19 PM. Reason : .] 5/15/2015 4:19:08 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
^ DAMN YOU OBAMA CARE! 5/15/2015 4:21:49 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I actually typed out a real response but you two are fucking dense idiots so continue." |
All I did was ask a question. Thanks for the attack though.
I would wager that him spending the rest of his life in prison would cost the government more money than a couple years of appeals and then killing him.5/17/2015 8:20:15 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Here's a quick and dirty study done in California circa 2008
http://www.deathpenalty.org/downloads/FINAL%20REPORT%20DEATH%20PENALTY%20ccfaj%20June%2030.2008.pdf
Quote : | ""The additional cost of confining an inmate to death row, as compared to the maximum security prisons where those sentenced to life without possibility of parole ordinarily serve their sentences, is $90,000 per year per inmate. With California's current death row population of 670, that accounts for $63.3 million annually."
Using conservative rough projections, the Commission estimates the annual costs of the present (death penalty) system to be $137 million per year.
The cost of the present system with reforms recommended by the Commission to ensure a fair process would be $232.7 million per year.
The cost of a system in which the number of death-eligible crimes was significantly narrowed would be $130 million per year.
The cost of a system which imposes a maximum penalty of lifetime incarceration instead of the death penalty would be $11.5 million per year." |
Death penalty cases cost more, death penalty cases appeals cost more, it costs more to house a person on death row etc. The only thing cheap about the death penalty is the drugs used. In my opinion you can throw out the economics and think about which is a worse punishment, life in solitary confinement, getting fed through a slit in your door. Or death. The only reason people select death is a large majority believe in a life after death were they think the person is going to "hell" and will be punished there.
I think sticking this 21 year old in a tiny cell for 60 years were he knows he's never getting out, and has nothing to do but think about his crime is a far worse punishment.5/17/2015 8:39:00 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
Like anyone in this country has ever give a flying fuck about the costs involved with our justice system. There are plenty of better arguments against the death penalty that could be made besides the cost of it.
If they found 12 people in a city that liberal who unanimously think this fucker should die, he should die. These people heard the whole story from start to finish including the victims testimonies. They know better than us what he deserves.
Now if you want to discuss a non-federal case where the suspect is borderline retarded, had incompetent counsel, or is possibly innocent I will level with you that that person might not deserve the death penalty.
The federal courts these days do not just throw out the death penalty lightly, when they give it out the fucker usually deserves it. 5/18/2015 12:50:29 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148223 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only reason people select death is a large majority believe in a life after death were they think the person is going to "hell" and will be punished there. " |
lolwut5/18/2015 1:20:58 AM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
count me in the sent the guy to supermax to live in some tiny concrete cell the rest of his life, at least that way he can think about what he did and eventually start to feel some genuine guilt, maybe even repent who knows, now he's going to read some books about martyrs in history and feel like he's going to heaven with some smug look on his face 5/18/2015 12:24:02 PM |