so you are betting at +100 every time?


[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 2:58 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2007 2:57:49 PM

with the spread

10/3/2007 2:58:38 PM

12 losses * 100 = 1200 +10% =$1320

13 wins * 100 = 1300


you are down $20


math is fun

10/3/2007 2:59:13 PM

who would you be doing this through if you were to do it hypothetically?

10/3/2007 2:59:34 PM

what kind of bookies do yall fuck with??

10/3/2007 2:59:48 PM

^real ones

10/3/2007 3:00:13 PM

I forgot, they dont charge juice on people that hit 100%, what would be the point!? I forgot!

10/3/2007 3:00:38 PM

JB with the 13 wins you have it +100, not -110. he would be losing more actually.

10/3/2007 3:01:23 PM

No he took the vig out in his math


2 baseball plays for today

Phillies -1.5 +135

Boston -1.5 +115

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:02 PM. Reason : x]

10/3/2007 3:02:02 PM

^^ my guy just does 10% no matter what, except on parleys of course

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:02 PM. Reason : d]

10/3/2007 3:02:14 PM

^^^no he's right, -110 means 110 to win 100

lose 110 12 times = -1320
win 100 13 times = +1300

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:02 PM. Reason : -]

10/3/2007 3:02:27 PM

it doesnt matter! when you hit 90%! fuck the juice!

10/3/2007 3:03:30 PM

ok here is my first ever stone cold lock, they are better than jaybee's because they hit 95% at least

Southern Miss Straight Up

I got a bookie that doesn't set lines, what kind of bookies are you guys fucking with

btw if I lose I get a mulligan since me and the bookie are good friends..only one mulligan a day though

I put $150,000 on it I am feeling pretty good about it

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10/3/2007 3:08:23 PM

Rice +21

Angels moneyline


Really thinking about the under in the So Miss/Rice game.

With So/Miss 3rd string QB starting, they are prolly gonna run the ball a lot more and control the clock.

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:10 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2007 3:09:22 PM

I got southern miss +40, beat that

10/3/2007 3:09:26 PM

yeah, my gut tells me Southern Miss anyways, but my brain says the under and rice... only things that scare me is the 3rd string qb, and that rice uses a spread offense so there is potential to break out...


still deciding on this one

10/3/2007 3:16:34 PM

ahahaha twista got REAL quiet.

10/3/2007 3:17:56 PM

I would be quiet too if I was going 25-0 and having to count money all day

10/3/2007 3:20:49 PM

^^actually i was on a work call

man i'm glad i don't have to go to a "real bookie" instead of who i do go to...apparently a "real bookie" would vig you even after you've been betting with him for over 2 and a half years with a certain minimum every single week...you guys are doing this in person and not on internet sites, right?

10/3/2007 3:30:25 PM

Even if you were boys with your bookie, he'd be a fool not to charge you a vig.

10/3/2007 3:32:05 PM

unless of course he knows i'm going to put >= $2000 with him every single week like i have the last ~130 weeks

in any line of work, you cater to your loyal customers...i'm not putting big money on games like some of his folks but he knows every single week i'll go through him

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:33 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2007 3:32:58 PM

Right but if you're winning like you say, he'd be losing money every week, especially vig-free.

So what's the benefit for him?

10/3/2007 3:34:01 PM

yeah, if he isnt charging juice then he is a fool.


EVERY bookie charges juice

^ exactly



doesnt have a damn thing to do with being loyal.. You really have no idea what you are talking about do you?

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:35 PM. Reason : d]

10/3/2007 3:34:29 PM

Oh, I got the Rox ML and the over at 9 +350. Don't like O/U in baseball but this one seemed good.

10/3/2007 3:35:00 PM

THIS FOOTBALL SEASON i have won every week...i'm not quite as good at baseball but i still bet with him every week

Quote :

"doesnt have a damn thing to do with being loyal"

he knows every single week he'll have a couple thousand in his hand from me and he's not supposed to take that into consideration? sucks to be you

the house is always gonna win in the long run, vig or not...he doesnt need my couple hundred...that shit is chump change to him

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:37 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2007 3:35:02 PM

Anyone on Earth could flip a coin and hit 50% of their bets.

So any competent bettor that does any better than that will cost your guy money.

So he is either A) retarded or B) fabricated.



This isn't a table game. The house doesn't always win in the long run, ESPECIALLY with no juice.

That means that over the long run, most gamblers will hit less than 50 percent of their plays.

Absolutely false.

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:40 PM. Reason : x]

10/3/2007 3:37:37 PM

^^ you have no clue what you are talking about.



I refuse to believe the bookie (if he exists) is this fucking stupid. So basically he is just betting you each game but YOU get to pick which side and he has to take the other... thats fucking stupid

10/3/2007 3:39:30 PM

or C) my friend who happens to be a bookie who I've placed all my bets through the last few years

he could vig me $250 and wipe his ass with it considering some of the bets he takes

10/3/2007 3:39:56 PM

most bookies are "friends" every the majority of people they take bets from... once again, he is stupid or doesnt exist

10/3/2007 3:41:32 PM

So Louisville gives 8 points to State last week.

You take Louisville, so he basically is forced to take State on an even money bet when over 90 percent of the public's money is on the Cardinals.

Give me this guys number...

10/3/2007 3:42:07 PM

^ bingo


if he is as big time as you claim, he would have learned his LONG ago

10/3/2007 3:43:18 PM

i'd probably have to give way too much detail about some illegal ass shit for you to understand the situation so i wont bother

i'll say this though...if you were a bartender i wouldnt come to your bar

10/3/2007 3:43:30 PM

^^^90% on the Cards -120 to boot

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:44 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2007 3:43:51 PM

Too bad, since we have a fine selection of gin and JUICE.

10/3/2007 3:44:39 PM

Quote :

"So Louisville gives 8 points to State last week. You take Louisville, so he basically is forced to take State on an even money bet when over 90 percent of the public's money is on the Cardinals."

and my bets are a small fraction of a percentage of his gross every week

and its not like he doesnt vig anybody...but apparently its beyond yalls comprehension that he might help out a couple of his buddies since he doesnt really need any help

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:45 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2007 3:44:49 PM

SO WHY IS HE EVEN TAKING YOUR BETS?

10/3/2007 3:45:50 PM

cause i dont always win but i always bet

i've simply won the past 5 weeks (THIS FOOTBALL SEASON)

10/3/2007 3:46:29 PM

you dont understand... this is how bookies make money.... in theory they want their bettors to go 50% on each side of a game, have that cancel out, and collect the juice at ZERO risk.



this would be like a bank charging zero interest on a loan. It doesnt matter if a $2000 loan means nothing to Bank of America, they arent going to give you a 0% loan

10/3/2007 3:49:50 PM

unless the person taking out the loan was buddies with a teller lol

10/3/2007 3:50:56 PM

Quote :

"in any line of work, you cater to your loyal customers."

not by giving away the product (or service) for free

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:51 PM. Reason : d]

10/3/2007 3:51:03 PM

so if you worked at bank of america and had complete control...you would find it extremely out of the ordinary to charge interest on 99.999% of peoples loans, but give your parents and siblings a break?

thats a bad analogy anyway...bank of america loans are....um....legal


[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:52 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2007 3:51:24 PM

If I had "complete control" of bank of america I would give them the money personally out of my own wallet cause I would be fucking loaded.



^ doenst matter if its legal or not... thats how bookies make money.

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:53 PM. Reason : d]

10/3/2007 3:52:39 PM

no, but i would charge them 10%, which is close to the industry standard

btw, quick math will show that if you are in fact .001 of his business and you put $8,000 in his hands every month, this guy would've gotten caught a long, long time ago.

$800,000,000.00 PER MONTH CASH

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:55 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:56 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2007 3:52:42 PM

the fact that you'd charge your parents 10% on something when you're already making enough off the 99.9999% of people who you are charging tells me you are a piece of shit

10/3/2007 3:53:40 PM

hahahahaha

read my edit you dumb fucking twat

10/3/2007 3:55:36 PM

yeah, I am calling bullshit on this, thanks for gaying up the thread

10/3/2007 3:56:05 PM

so this bookie is your father?

The whole parent/sibling analogy is poor.

You're this bookies friend, not his brother.

10/3/2007 3:56:13 PM

so we've gone from

Quote :

"what kind of bookies do yall fuck with??"

to

Quote :

"parents and siblings "

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 3:58 PM. Reason : /]

10/3/2007 3:58:07 PM

Quote :

"$800,000,000.00 PER MONTH CASH"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

10/3/2007 3:58:53 PM

Quote :

"$800,000,000.00 PER MONTH CASH"

your math is pretty horrible...since when does "a small fraction of a percentage" mean 1/1000th of a percentage?

$8,000 is 1% of $800,000

i'm sure he sees a million a month before all the payouts

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 4:04 PM. Reason : you guys suck at math]

10/3/2007 4:01:49 PM