Is there any way RSA can advance?

6/22/2010 11:15:40 AM

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"sweet, little world cup sendoff for Thierry Henry. A lot of people hate him, I love that dude"

6/22/2010 11:16:14 AM

^^ Mexico has to lose. they have to make up I think 2 more in goal differential, and add another in goals scored (as opposed to Mexico).

[Edited on June 22, 2010 at 11:17 AM. Reason : ()]

6/22/2010 11:17:24 AM

^^ read the last page... lots of discussion on it. RSA needs to make up 2 goals over Mexico/

6/22/2010 11:18:23 AM

whoever the fuck is blowing that vuvuzela right next to the microphone in the Mexico game needs to shut the fuck off it sounds like a freaking siren.

6/22/2010 11:20:59 AM

lol that was not a star

6/22/2010 11:27:20 AM

shut the fuck off!

6/22/2010 11:27:35 AM

So RSA is up 2-0 right now & Mexico is down 0-1... if either RSA scores another or Mexico allows another, RSA will advance?

6/22/2010 11:28:57 AM

damn. sorry Bafana, nice try though

6/22/2010 11:29:35 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOO

6/22/2010 11:29:51 AM

damn.

6/22/2010 11:30:04 AM

^^^^ i think they are down 2 on goal differential, make that 3



[Edited on June 22, 2010 at 11:33 AM. Reason : ^]

6/22/2010 11:30:35 AM

Fuck France.

6/22/2010 11:30:54 AM

You can tell Tyler and Harkes are bummed out.

6/22/2010 11:32:15 AM

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"So RSA is up 2-0 right now & Mexico is down 0-1... if either RSA scores another or Mexico allows another, RSA will advance?"

The short of it is that in order for RSA to advance both they and Uruguay need to beat their opponents by a combined 5 points. Or combine for 4 points greater and RSA scores 3 goals.

Not looking incredibly likely. 3-0 and 2-0 would have done it. Now it would have to be like 4-1 and 2-0 or RSA needs to score like 3 goals in a hurry.

[Edited on June 22, 2010 at 11:42 AM. Reason : poor south africa]

6/22/2010 11:40:18 AM

oh well, beating France and tying Mexico isn't too much of a fail for them... even if they didn''t advance

6/22/2010 11:46:17 AM

kind of sucks to be the first team to do that though. good riddance france.

6/22/2010 11:47:09 AM

did mphela just spit on sagna?

6/22/2010 11:48:17 AM

RIP RSA

6/22/2010 11:48:27 AM

the last 20 minutes were rather anti-climatic

6/22/2010 11:51:41 AM

hats off to south africa. that result against uruguay buried them, but they put up a fight against mexico and france. you may not advance, but 4 points in group play against some pretty big boys is no small feat.



and i'm actually glad to see henry get his send off. people hate on him, i think too much for that handball. he's had a helluva career, and i'm glad to see him get some final world cup run





holy shit, i had no idea cisse had soo much ink

[Edited on June 22, 2010 at 11:58 AM. Reason : ]

6/22/2010 11:53:19 AM

not their best today but still making it to knockout play. argentina is gonna be tough

6/22/2010 11:56:32 AM

So it's Uruguay and Mexico from Group A.

Group B doesn't look incredibly intriguing. I mean, it's not mathematically impossible for Nigeria to advance with a win over Korea since they're only -1 on goal differential against korea and greece.

Hell, it isn't even mathematically impossible that Argentina doesn't advance.

But realistically, it'll be Argentina and S. Korea.

6/22/2010 11:59:47 AM

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"Hell, it isn't even mathematically impossible that Argentina doesn't advance. "

No, that's impossible.

If South Korea and Greece both win, they will have six points like Argentina.

However, Argentina beat both of them, so they advance.

And since South Korea beat Greece, S. Korea advances as well.


[Edited on June 22, 2010 at 12:03 PM. Reason : ]

6/22/2010 12:01:48 PM

I hope it's Nigeria... I want at least one African team to make the 2nd round

6/22/2010 12:02:35 PM

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"No, that's impossible. If South Korea and Greece both win, they will have six points like Argentina. However, Argentina beat both of them, so they advance. And since South Korea beat Greece, S. Korea advances as well"

Wrong, Argentina would have to lose to Greece for Greece to win today.

So tiebreakers could and would come into play.


[Edited on June 22, 2010 at 12:07 PM. Reason : fixed]

[Edited on June 22, 2010 at 12:08 PM. Reason : ....]

6/22/2010 12:04:08 PM

That's just crazy talk.

6/22/2010 12:08:12 PM

head-to-head is the 3rd tiebreaker

it's GD, goals scored, and then head to head

6/22/2010 12:12:56 PM

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"head-to-head is the 3rd tiebreaker it's GD, goals scored, and then head to head"

So if US ties Algeria 0-0 & England ties Slovenia 2-2...who advances with Slovenia, US or England?

6/22/2010 12:53:06 PM

Well.....








Coin flip. Seriously. Imagine the American media outrage if it comes to that.

[Edited on June 22, 2010 at 12:57 PM. Reason : not that I'm particularly thrilled about it either]

6/22/2010 12:55:32 PM

coin flip is really the last tiebreaker?

6/22/2010 12:58:23 PM

haha yep

6/22/2010 12:58:39 PM

This definitely is crazy talk BUT,

if Greece beats Argentina 4-0 and Korea beats Nigeria 2-0, then Argentina will not advance.

So like I said, not mathematically impossible. It is practically impossible, however since we're talking about running 4 goals up on Argentina. with Greece.

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"So if US ties Algeria 0-0 & England ties Slovenia 2-2...who advances with Slovenia, US or England?"

If US ties 0-0 we'll have 3 points, with 0 goal differential and 3 goals scored. England would have 3 points, with 0 goal differential and 3 goals scored. I think it would be the coin flip, I'm not so sure about the other tie-breaker rules.


[Edited on June 22, 2010 at 1:00 PM. Reason : .]

6/22/2010 12:58:52 PM

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"FIFA World Cup Group Tiebreaker Rules 1. greatest number of points obtained in all group matches; 2. goal difference in all group matches; 3. greatest number of goals scored in all group matches. If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three then the following will be used to determine which teams advance to the knockout round. 1. greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned; 2. goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned; 3. greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned; 4. drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee. "

6/22/2010 12:59:17 PM

Yep, coin flip. lolsauce

6/22/2010 1:01:38 PM

coin flip is the last tiebreaker in just about all sports competitions.

6/22/2010 1:01:58 PM

Some of you need to chill out with these scenarios. It's not complicated.

6/22/2010 1:02:40 PM

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"coin flip is the last tiebreaker in just about all sports competitions."

Yep. Division tiebreakers for both the NFL and NBA end in a coin toss after all the previous options didn't prove effective.

Bottom line: US needs to win. They control their own destiny against a team that they are fully capable of beating and a team who can't just pack it in because they need a win to have a chance to advance as well.. The bad call costing us the win vs Slovenia sucks, but it is still up to us to prove we deserve to be in the round of 16 by actually outright winning a game here.

[Edited on June 22, 2010 at 1:13 PM. Reason : ]

6/22/2010 1:04:15 PM

true

6/22/2010 1:23:21 PM

would they televise a live coin flip?

6/22/2010 1:41:27 PM

yeah and the ref would probably take a dive from the impact of the coin in his hand

6/22/2010 1:43:52 PM

zing

6/22/2010 1:46:12 PM

6/22/2010 1:46:50 PM

^^^^it's not really a coin flip I don't think. I think they do the ping pong ball lottery type thing like they do when creating groups from the seed pools.

[Edited on June 22, 2010 at 1:49 PM. Reason : ]

6/22/2010 1:48:40 PM

nigeria playing for pride, that defender really should've been able to clear that though. good goal by uche.

6/22/2010 2:43:00 PM

they're playing for more than pride

6/22/2010 2:44:46 PM

Uh yeah, they can pretty easily make it to the second round.

Tied w/ points with S. Korea and Greece with 1 less goal differential.

[Edited on June 22, 2010 at 2:46 PM. Reason : ]

6/22/2010 2:45:24 PM

Nigeria goes through with a win and an Argentina win.

6/22/2010 2:45:40 PM

oh yeah, i guess they're still in it.

6/22/2010 2:45:52 PM

He's not really wrong though, they would be proud to make it to the second round.

6/22/2010 2:46:19 PM