what was with carmella's facial expression when paulie and vito got in the elevator?

3/26/2006 9:56:00 PM

i figured that he was done as soon as tony b. showed up

3/26/2006 9:58:52 PM

^^maybe she realized that Vito and Paulie were giving her the money because they felt obligated too, not out of the goodness of their hearts


"I gotta piss...you want half of that too?"

3/26/2006 10:03:38 PM

yeah i think she definitely saw that they were sad to part with the money


i thought paulie was gonna kill tony for a minute there!!!

"Shut up, shut up!"

3/26/2006 10:18:27 PM

another stellar episode


i thought the conclusion to the coma and the dream sequence was fucking perfect.

with him seeing Tony B. and his mother at the door for a split second, then finally realizing what was up

also, this whole movie subplot is hilarious

CLEAVER

3/26/2006 10:26:04 PM

stellar episode is correct.

glad tony came to early in the season, didn't want it to drag on too long.


sucks some of the guys are greedy bitches though. i think it'll bite them in the ass this season.

3/26/2006 10:40:31 PM

twas good stuff
the show is really impressing me so far this season

3/26/2006 11:02:44 PM

Im gettin sick of Vito already, asshole looked pissed when Tony came out of the coma


He's gonna get his, hopefully sooner rather than late

3/26/2006 11:31:48 PM

Freaking cant beleive how fucked up tony still looks

3/26/2006 11:54:53 PM

im thinking

Vito is going to make a pass at Meadow's BF and get shut down, get pissed off and rough him up (maybe even kill him). Thus begins a reasonable excuse within the family to kill Vito (cause hes already chaffing everyone's ass)

3/27/2006 1:51:45 AM

^i just hope something happens to him, bc he was being a selfish little asshole last night



and geez, christopher telling tony about his shitty movie idea...i thought he would go back into the coma!

3/27/2006 6:59:08 AM

Yeah, I agree that Vito's power lust and faggotry are going to get him whacked.

I'm wondering about Paulie too. I think the greed is starting to take control, and he may do something stupid.

3/27/2006 8:31:56 AM

and hes not even sneaky about it really, rubbing Finn's arm like that... i feel bad for that kid!


oh man it was so funny when tony was beating on the wall telling paulie to shut up

3/27/2006 8:37:09 AM

great episode. I love the movie sub-plot as well.

"but he's a ghost? I don't know..."

3/27/2006 8:51:31 AM

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3/27/2006 9:12:33 AM

ahaha

Sil deconstructing the "slasher" genre was hilarious

3/27/2006 9:17:22 AM

Paulie really cracked me up in last nite's episode...first by getting knee'd in the balls, then saying "Oh my god he looks horrible" and only talkin bout his mom and havin to wear a jock (nearly killing tony), and the lies he told bout what he was doing while tony was having a weak pulse...

Also, im assuming had he walked into the "family reunion"..he would've died rite? Im kinda slow with stuff like that

3/27/2006 9:20:12 AM

oh yeah, as soon as i saw Cousin Tony i knew the "Family Reunion" was bad news!


i think they also show a quick glimpse of his mom in the doorway

3/27/2006 9:56:18 AM

dude carm definitely knew what the hell was up when she saw vito and paulie get in the elevator.

great episode...there really isn't much to say.

the preview for next week/upcoming were great. tony commanding them from the hotel room getting all pissed and shit...man! i can't wait.

^yeah that was his mom...and the house, to me...looked like the farm house that he and tony b used to spend their summers at. or am i wrong?

[Edited on March 27, 2006 at 9:58 AM. Reason : ]

3/27/2006 9:56:26 AM

This has probably already been mentioned but, the house with all the lights was teh heavenz0r right?

And I really need to see the 2 previous seasons because I dont know how his brother died

3/27/2006 9:59:30 AM

that's his cousin

3/27/2006 10:04:26 AM

he had to kill him

3/27/2006 10:05:52 AM

" ..But hes a ghost, i dont know"
"Ghostbusters!, another fucking money machine."

lolz

3/27/2006 10:47:44 AM

great episode, this is how i see it fall out. The house in his comadream was heaven, but like tony b said, he couldnt take his Brief Case with him. His brief case symbolizes worldly ties and more specifically business. He wasnt ready to let that go, and obviously him hearing the echos of Medow's voice from the trees prevented him from going into the house. And vito is really starting to get on my nerves, but frankly i dont think it is such a stretch for vito to have boss asperiations, he is the top earning capo but his real weakness is nobody really likes him.
From preview i want to know wtf bobby was doing the whole time, maybe its in relation to his money troubles and his forshadowing to Sil, before his asthma attack, that he would do something drastic.

3/27/2006 10:48:32 AM

Quote :

"with him seeing Tony B. and his mother at the door for a split second, then finally realizing what was up "

I have to watch like all three showings to catch all the art and nuance... this is fucking amazing.

3/27/2006 11:10:03 AM

I was trying to get the connection between Vito and the water with lemon. He's specifically asked for it several times.

Quote :

"he is the top earning capo but his real weakness is nobody really likes him"

and his love of the cock

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3/27/2006 1:20:42 PM

I think it is just trying to show that he is always consious about hiw weight and he wont drink anything other than wine that is bad for him.

3/27/2006 1:23:19 PM

well he lost a lot of weight since last season. they are probably just trying to show that he's been watching his figure, rather than him just being slimmer with no explanation other than the actor that played him going on a diet...

3/27/2006 1:25:09 PM

um

he explicitly talked about it in the first episode

3/27/2006 1:29:50 PM

^if that's directed at me, i know that. but they're still illustrating him being cautious about his weight by drinking water. they can't just say he went on a diet and then have him pig out and shit on the show.

3/27/2006 1:50:15 PM

i like how he was pigging out on carrots to try and fill the void of that slice of cake he was wanting so VERY badly in the hospital cafeteria line

3/27/2006 2:32:46 PM

I dont really know but in my opinion the way he was eating the carrots was because of the money he had to give to tony, but thats jes a thought...

3/27/2006 2:59:51 PM

why would he eat carrots because he had to give money to tony?

3/27/2006 3:10:06 PM

bc he was upset and he had to use carrots as his comfort food?

3/27/2006 3:11:44 PM

his old habit might have been using food to deal with stress

so, in turn, instead of munching out on a calzone and pork rinds

he chomps an insane amount of carrots

3/27/2006 3:13:05 PM

I agree with those words

3/27/2006 3:14:27 PM

^^yeah that's what i was thinking. i was just saying that he was using carrots b/c he is watching his weight. i agree that he was probably eating so many because he was upset.

3/27/2006 3:16:09 PM

Well...i think he resents Tony in a way, and why would you wanna give money to someone you didnt want to recover...he was the only one not overjoyed, he was also trying to win over Larry Boy in the lobby of the hospital sayin hes healthy and shit and has "longivity", and then the look when him and Paulie were on the elevator...idk kinda makes sense to me, but i could be wrong

3/27/2006 3:16:23 PM

right...and to me he wanted the cake b/c he was stressed about having to give money to tony...and as soon as carmella walked up he put it away. he's hiding his "greed" by putting away what would have really satisfied him in a time of "stress"...a nice slice of cake...and then later when he's about to give the money b/c tony wakes up, he's chomping on carrots instead.

it's like the cake represents his old greed...and the carrots are him trying to cover up his greed.
cake--old fatty gluttonous vito...carrots--new trim vito "willing" to give up a few (lbs, $$) vito...but the whole time in his head he really just wants a slice of cake

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3/27/2006 3:24:49 PM

i dont think he is willing to give up the $$ at all. he just knows he's a dead man if he doesn't.

3/27/2006 3:27:03 PM

"willing"--not really willing...but doing so to save his fucking neck...losing weight to save his health...longevity

3/27/2006 3:28:08 PM

i still think that fat fag lost weight from AIDS

nah but that episode was dope...and yall know i told some of you via PM that Tony would make it out of the coma last night

I was hoping he would smack Buscemi in the head with his briefcase, or at least take the briefcase in the house...he could've overpowered Tony B and taken the briefcase in the house...then he could've been like some kind of half-dead angel who reigned down mob hits from heaven...nah not really but great episode...shits gonna heat up next week...Tony seemed pretty competent in the clips, ie didnt seem like the vegetable with brain damage that the doctors all seemed to suggest he may be

you can definitely tell who is down for Tony though...Vito is not clearly...Chris is even though he was talking bullshit with him in the coma...I think Paulie is too...or maybe I just like Paulie more than Vito...Syl is still a standup guy but I dont think the stress and pressure of being boss works with his asthma...but man this show is getting good

3/27/2006 4:27:44 PM

yea..fuckin great episode last night..can only get better from here

3/27/2006 5:21:56 PM

Vito has got to get whacked... they will eventually find out he's gay, if he doesn't do something against the family first. either way he's a dead man

3/27/2006 5:38:14 PM

I hope Johnny Sack gets outta lockup soon


He's too good a character not to be in more episodes

3/27/2006 7:06:16 PM

you gotta love Paulie's fight scenes

remember when he beat up that landscaping dude, then ganked his lawnmower and stuck it in his cadillac...hillarious

3/27/2006 8:07:32 PM

"He jumped outta a tree at me with a chainsaw! I have a right to defend myself"

3/27/2006 8:15:45 PM

I think what Feech did was better in that episode

"You want me to fuck off?..how about i fuck off all over your stupid fuckin face! You stupid fuckin mutt"..then drags Sal Vitro by his balls and then curbs his arm

[Edited on March 27, 2006 at 8:22 PM. Reason : ]

3/27/2006 8:21:51 PM

Quote :

"then he could've been like some kind of half-dead angel who reigned down mob hits from heaven"

Wait, so is he a ghost? [/sil]

3/27/2006 9:27:29 PM

Quote :

"Silvio leaves a paper trail Monday, March 27, 2006 WARNING: This column contains major plot spoilers for last night's "Sopranos" season premiere. If you're waiting until later in the week to watch, read on at extreme peril. LET'S TALK about Silvio on the toilet for a minute. Look, I know you're dying to talk about what the monks represent, or Carmela's therapy session, or Little Carmine's triumphant return, but I think we need to start with Silvio on the toilet. Okay, so Tony didn't make his traditional season-opening waddle to the end of the driveway for his copy of The Star-Ledger. It hurt, but I moved on and was rewarded with the sight of acting boss Silvio conducting business from a hospital men's room stall while thumbing through a copy of this here newspaper. If I didn't know HBO refuses to accept product placement money for the show, I would assume my bosses slipped them a small fortune for that primo advertisement. The toilet scene was also important because it was funny. While the season's first two episodes had plenty to offer -- religious imagery, award-worthy monologues, prolonged hangings -- the laughs had mostly been absent from a show that often plays less as a drama than a black comedy about America's moral decay. Last night, we got Sil on the throne, Vito furiously gnawing carrot sticks like Bugs Bunny on crank, Paulie taking a knee to the groin, and smarmy J.T. being forced to take script notes from Patsy Parisi and Benny Fazio. The power vacuum created by Tony's coma could have been played straight to sate the bloodlust of fans annoyed by the Purgatory/dream/hallucination scenes, but this worked better. Steve Van Zandt will be the first one to tell you he's not much of an actor, but the man is comedy gold. He probably would have struggled with a heavy scene where he puts Paulie and Vito in their places, but rolling his eyes on the can? Genius. The Keystone Kops antics of Silvio and company also neatly illustrated how much smarter Tony is than the rest of his army combined. These are dumb, dumb people, and a world without Tony telling them what to do would be a grim future indeed. Fortunately, Tony finally returned to the land of the living -- fortunately for both the overwhelmed Sil and for viewers whose patience might have been fraying over the Kevin Finnerty scenes. Much as I fell in love with them last week, there was maybe an episode and a half's worth of mileage to be gotten from them. By the time Tony was asking the bartender if he might actually be Finnerty, the show was veering dangerously close to check-your-watch territory. And to clarify, all David Chase told me was that they weren't dreams; the Purgatory stuff was just conjecture that will never be confirmed because he prefers to let the work speak for itself. Some readers contested the Purgatory theory, saying Tony couldn't get there until after he died, and that if you're bound for Hell, you don't stop in Purgatory along the way. One reader suggested the story was more linear than Tony's usual dreams because the brain functions differently when you're in a coma than when you're just sleeping. Following that theory, another suggested that with his body shut down, Tony's mind was imagining a scenario where he was cut off from the people and life he knew, and this fantasy incorporated whatever it could recognize from the real world. (The Alzheimer's, for instance, could have been Tony's mind telling him he would never fully recover from the shooting.) But, as one of those e-mailers put it, "the beautiful thing about art is we can all be right." And the beautiful thing about episode three was that, just as "Costa Mesa 2: Purgatory Boogaloo" was wandering off the rails, the two final scenes redeemed it. First, there was the hilarious sequence where Paulie's self-pitying ramblings got so loud and annoying that Tony could hear them through his hotel room walls, followed by the chilling appearance of Tony B. as the maitre'd at the Finnerty reunion. That last scene was overflowing with near-death imagery: the briefcase as Tony's mortality, the faint whispers of Tony's fantasy daughter and then the real Meadow, the white light, a brief glimpse of a woman made up to look like Livia. (And if that was Livia, does that mean the white light wasn't a gateway to Heaven? I can't imagine any kind of eternal reward for Tony that would involve his mother.) Now we have Tony back in the real world -- sort of. If that last scene is any indication, it could be a long recovery for him. But I'm guessing HBO isn't paying James Gandolfini millions of dollars to drool onto his hospital gown for the next 17 hours. Some other random notes and thoughts on episode three: Vito is looking more and more like he's going to be Tony's biggest headache this year, between his ambitions and his cousin-by-marriage relationship to Phil Leotardo. Something to chew on about our resident diet guru: Vito's the latest troublemaking head of the crew whose previous leaders were Ralphie Cifaretto, Richie Aprile and rat Jimmy Altieri. At what point does Tony realize he needs to just wipe out the entire bunch, salt the earth and start over? Not only didn't Paulie want to give his cut to Carmela, he's so cheap he clips coupons while he's sitting on a $1 million score. Silvio telling his wife that Jackie Sr. once offered to make him boss was a clever nod to the fact that Van Zandt auditioned to play Tony, but unless he's lying, it doesn't make sense in the context of the show, since Sil wasn't even a captain when Jackie died. Carmela would actually benefit from therapy more than Tony, who lies to Melfi and ignores her advice. Carmela was honest and open here, and I like that she admitted her rediscovered love for Tony might not survive if he did. Near-death experiences can make you idealize a person, but when they stick around and settle into their old rhythms with you, the euphoria won't always last. More Van Zandt comic brilliance: when J.T. suggests of his slasher movie hero, "They call him 'The Butcher,'" and Silvio immediately says, "No, they don't." The J.T. character is just a punching bag for the writers to make fun of the business they have chosen (remember him trying to pawn his Emmy for 15 bucks?), but that scene was funny. And of course Little Carmine's involved in the porno industry; according to Johnny Sack, he spent all his time in Florida "fixing wet T-shirt contests." For the obsessives: The Inn at the Oaks is really a private home in Morristown and the version of "Over the Rainbow" playing as Carmela swabbed Tony was by the Mystics. "

http://www.nj.com/sopranos/ledger/index.ssf?/sopranos/stories/seasonsix_4.html

I'm going to start posting Alan Sepinwalls weekly columns because they are excellent

3/28/2006 5:49:22 PM