stupid cunt hung up on me LOL, this shit just keeps getting better

7/1/2007 3:44:22 PM

The funny thing about ATT 3G is that its not really technically deployed across the entire country. Edge, as noen loves to point out, is indeed a very very slow method of internet connectivity. In fact, you could probably go brew coffee in the time it takes to download http://www.brentroad.com and make a biscuit to go along with that if the stupid ad banner in the top right times out.

The lack of flash is also pretty funny.

That being said, every other aspect of this device has been so much better then the plethora of phones I've used and tested that I'm really more pissed then surprised. The browser is perfectly usable in a wifi environment (coverage which I'll have nearly everywhere I go) and is light years better then any other phone browser I've used save for an internal SE p990 build that an engineer had two years ago.

7/1/2007 4:17:21 PM

ok this ass hat has put me on hold 7 times now to ask his supervisor how to do stuff.. he's completely fucking clueless

7/1/2007 4:29:45 PM

the only that holds phones back is the software

i hate the verizon generic software that is on all their phones

7/1/2007 4:35:23 PM

I've been playing with it for about an hour now and this thing is amazing, one of the few thing I've ever purchased thats actually living up to the hype. Loading a youtube video using the edge network takes about 10 seconds of load time before it starts, using wifi its instantaneous and the video quality is amazing.

7/1/2007 4:36:50 PM

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"ok this ass hat has put me on hold 7 times now to ask his supervisor how to do stuff.. he's completely fucking clueless"

welcome to at&t

have you tried plugging and unplugging your phone about 5-6 times? i read on some forums that people who ported never got the email, but doing that activated it...

7/1/2007 4:43:13 PM

pull up tdub on edge and report back how long it takes

7/1/2007 4:43:40 PM

it's not that slow damn.. yea its close to dialup speeds but not gonna take an hour for tww to come up or anything

7/1/2007 4:52:30 PM

dial up is so 1999

if you are going to advertise connectivity, you should be able to provide more than dial up speed

7/1/2007 4:54:41 PM

i love how everyone hates every cell company. in this thread it "well that's at&t for you" in another thread it'll be well that verizon for ya I guess it's a never ending stuggle. I hope one day a telecom will get their act together.

7/1/2007 4:58:30 PM

Telecom is fine.

People fail at communicating properly or troubleshooting.

I've been with every carrier in america save for Nextel and not had any major issues.

7/1/2007 5:05:01 PM

3G isn't offered in a large part of the country anyways and where I'll be almost always using the phone it isn't offered so there's no point in making a big deal about it. Sure it'll be annoying, esp if I'm somewhere 3G is offered but it'll be aight

if they can get the god damn thing activated at all

7/1/2007 5:08:47 PM

k my shit is working now. I USED MY OLD (cingular) SIM CARD AND IT WORKED. I've seen a lot of ppl say that it won't work but it did so there's your proof.

7/1/2007 5:39:51 PM

Personally, I think it could use a stylus.

7/1/2007 6:22:50 PM

wouldn't hurt, some of the shit is pretty small

7/1/2007 6:44:23 PM

Mine dad got one and the speaker in the earpiece wasn't working. He got it exchanged for a new one, with no problems.

Both times though it took less than 5 minutes each time to activate the phone through iTunes, but we already had a family plan and were just moving a number.

7/1/2007 7:05:56 PM

I'm not hating on the iPhone for what it is, I'm hating on it for what the HYPE is.

I'll probably end up with a Gen2 or Gen3 in my pocket. Got to get GPS and fix the keyboard and contact management issues and lower the price about 150 bucks and I'm in.

7/1/2007 8:28:50 PM

I'm not hating on Noen for who he is, I'm hating on him for the cocksucking asshole he projects himself to be.


You are projecting, aren't you?

7/1/2007 8:39:13 PM

Couple of quick thoughts:

They keyboard actually is fine. I've graduated to being able to type without looking with one hand. The mental block is that people assume the key touch area is smaller then it actually is and maybe they could clean the graphics up so that doesn't happen.

Contact management is superior to my previous SE phone as outlook sync up was seamless and scrolling through them is retarded easy. Of course, I probably wouldn't say that if I had more then twenty contacts so obviously YMMV.

I also think that the default menu while calling should be the keypad rather then the phone menu. This isn't an issue normally, but while driving (!!) I had to look down and click 'keypad' when a phone prompt response was needed.

Another useful feature would be integrated 411. Having YouTube is cute and all but integrated directory assistance is a feature thats LONG overdue in cellphones. (and I'm talking about more then just 'pushhereofronstarlol')

7/1/2007 9:08:39 PM

This is the case I got for mine



Incase Molded Rubber Case for iPhone

7/1/2007 9:21:52 PM

From Drudgereport:

Quote :

"FLASH: APPLE FACES A REBELLION OVER ITUNES... Universal Music Group, the world's biggest music corporation, notified Apple that it will not renew its annual contract to sell music through iTunes... Developing..."

7/1/2007 9:22:58 PM

clearly should be part of the iPhone discussion

7/1/2007 9:25:33 PM

Quote :

"Another useful feature would be integrated 411. Having YouTube is cute and all but integrated directory assistance is a feature thats LONG overdue in cellphones. (and I'm talking about more then just 'pushhereofronstarlol')"

You should program into a speed dial 1-800-GOOG-411 (1-800-466-4411)

7/1/2007 9:47:38 PM

i use the vznav local search alot works well... w/ the iphone u could use whitepages.com or something till someone makes a widget or whatnot

7/1/2007 10:49:05 PM

Quote :

"I'm not hating on the iPhone for what it is, I'm hating on it for what the HYPE is. "

Apple's not the one creating the hype though, it's the media. There weren't even any commercials for the iPhone until this month. No one knew anything about it otherwise, than what was stated at the last MW expo.

But, consumers have been clamoring for a phone for a while that had a good UI, and they perceived the iPhone as the one phone that would finally make this happen, because of how the iPod's UI is perceived to be easy to use compared to anything else. This desperation for a phone like this is what caused the hype.

The iPhone's UI has a lot of eye candy, but this is the kind of thing that aides ease of use. The animations and transitions aide the UI, not compromise or detract from it. This sounds kind of lame... but on sci-fi movies, for many years, we consumers see these crazy interfaces on the fake future computers. We can technically do a lot of that stuff, but most tech companies are so ingrained in the old way of doing things, no one is really trying, except for Apple. And it's pretty clear consumers craze for this kind of stuff. It also drives technological development... creating faster, lower power chips to handle all the animations. I read somewhere that the iPod singlehandedly is responsible for helping to drive the price of flash chips down. The iPhone will force competitors to focus on UI more to compete. Because of the iPod there are a lot of other really nice mp3 players on the market.

Having used the iPhone for about an hour, there are a lot of shortcomings I could mention. One of them is the phone... I use my phone now for no more than 30-40 minutes a month, and the way I make phone calls, the iPhone is actually a tad more complicated than what I have to do now, and I was a little bit confused by all the extra stuff it has related to phone calls. I can imagine though that someone that routinely gets multiple calls at once would love the UI for this.

The web browsing, google maps, you tube, and iPod interface are the best i've seen for a mobile device (I don't see how people are saying the Coverflow is smoother than itunes though, iTunes' coverflow is WAY smoother for me on my 1.5Ghz laptop). I also think it's a great idea to require a mandatory unlimited data plan, it's already caused ATT to beef up their internet access, and hopefully it'll cause them and others to take it to the next level in the US.

7/2/2007 12:38:21 AM

jesus, they got you hook line and sinker, huh?

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" Apple's not the one creating the hype though, it's the media. There weren't even any commercials for the iPhone until this month. No one knew anything about it otherwise, than what was stated at the last MW expo."

yeah, because Jobs never said anything about it for the last year or so during his titty-fuck speeches at the apple conferences, did he?

[Edited on July 2, 2007 at 1:01 AM. Reason : .]

7/2/2007 1:01:31 AM

There was one conference in January when he announced it and one conference this month (when the wide advertising started) that was a complete rehash of the first.

In those 4+ months in between, Apple didn't do shit. Look no further than this very thread: a bunch of posts in January, a bunch of posts in June, only a few in between. Maybe your memory is faulty are you are projecting the coverage from June back further.

It's been mostly tech writers filling the space between those two conferences. Apple is at fault because writers are generally obsessed with (praising and trashing) it? Riiiight.

7/2/2007 1:41:32 AM

Ouch

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ficharker/sets/72157600594051928/

7/2/2007 7:02:43 AM

breaking an iphone has psychological effects

7/2/2007 8:31:48 AM

one of the reasons that jobs had to announce it was because of the fcc...it takes 6 months to approve a new phone

it was either jobs announcing it, or it appearing on the fcc website

and you know that jobs had to announce it at some mac thing to get his jollies off

7/2/2007 8:41:04 AM

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"I'll probably end up with a Gen2 or Gen3 in my pocket. Got to get GPS and fix the keyboard and contact management issues and lower the price about 150 bucks and I'm in."

you know the price isn't going to come down, right? apple products never do. they'll add some more features, but the price won't change.

7/2/2007 9:27:27 AM

yea, at best the old models will come down on price until they sell out once a new product is released..but even that doesn't always happen. apple forces all retailers that sell its products to maintain the prices apple sets and nothing less. i.e. that's why ipods cost the same at walmart as the apple store, and why the old ones didn't even get marked down when the video ipods came out.

[Edited on July 2, 2007 at 9:35 AM. Reason : asdf]

7/2/2007 9:35:31 AM

Quote :

"500,000 iPhones sold over the weekend"

Quote :

"Apple sold around half a million iPhones the first weekend the device went on sale, one analyst firm has estimated. Piper Jaffray's Gene Munster released a report Sunday night estimating that Apple sold about 500,000 units from 6 p.m. Friday through the close of business Sunday. Going into the weekend Munster thought Apple would sell 200,000 on Friday and Saturday. Despite low supply at AT&T stores and activation issues, it appears that the iPhone era at Apple got off to a good start. Piper Jaffray said Apple had iPhones available in each one of its stores on Saturday, and in 84 percent of its stores Sunday. Ninety-five percent of iPhone buyers in San Francisco, New York and Minneapolis (home to Piper Jaffray's offices) purchased the 8GB model, according to a survey conducted by the firm. About half were new customers for AT&T, at least among the 253 people surveyed for the report. "

http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9738446-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5

7/2/2007 9:48:44 AM

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"I'm not hating on Noen for who he is, I'm hating on him for the cocksucking asshole he projects himself to be. You are projecting, aren't you?"

I really hope statements like this make you feel better about yourself.

Quote :

"Apple's not the one creating the hype though, it's the media."

Like Goalixlax said, you bought it hook, line and sinker. Apparently Lowjack did too. Dude, Apple is a HYPE MACHINE. If you think the media blindly picked up on the iPhone and has been solely or even primarily responsible for all the fluff pieces about it, you need to get your head checked. It's alll about publicity and marketing. It just happens that now anytime Apple sneezes, their PR people kick into high gear.

Quote :

"you know the price isn't going to come down, right? apple products never do. they'll add some more features, but the price won't change."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod

Original iPod (10gb): $499, 2nd gen $399, 3rd gen $299
3rd Gen (30gb): $399, 4th gen $349, 5th gen $249

Yes they do drop their prices.

7/2/2007 11:19:57 AM

^^that's an estimated 500,000. people won't know the exact amount until Apple releases that information

7/2/2007 12:33:02 PM

Quote :

"yeah, because Jobs never said anything about it for the last year or so during his titty-fuck speeches at the apple conferences, did he? "

God forbid a company talk about the products it's developing and supporting at the semi annual conferences they've held since the early 90's.

7/2/2007 1:37:06 PM

Quote :

"Like Goalixlax said, you bought it hook, line and sinker. Apparently Lowjack did too. Dude, Apple is a HYPE MACHINE. If you think the media blindly picked up on the iPhone and has been solely or even primarily responsible for all the fluff pieces about it, you need to get your head checked. It's alll about publicity and marketing. It just happens that now anytime Apple sneezes, their PR people kick into high gear. "

I need my head checked then.

I primarily get my tech news from forums (like this one) and Ars Technica. Neither place has any ties to Apple, yet both places contained a healthy dosing of iPhone information. It wasn't Apple telling people to make posts about it, but was those people choosing to do it, based on the compelling demo Apple gave on its intro. The hype created itself from there.

The people Apple gave iPhones too ahead of time were under a pretty strict NDA not to talk about it at all, and none of them did (no one knew they even had them) until the dropping of the NDA.

7/2/2007 2:02:35 PM

Forget the phone, a touchscreen MP3 player is almost worth the price of entry. This is a whole lot easier to use then my Zune.

I will gripe about the stupid fucking retarded headphone jack though. Grats to the asshat that intentionally made the grove deep so as to preclude almost every other headjack from being able to fit in it without an adapter. Not surprised, this IS an apple product, but still annoying nonetheless.

7/2/2007 2:10:54 PM

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"my Zune"

do you enjoy making terrible purchases, or was that sarcasm

7/2/2007 2:28:30 PM

I already discussed Zune related stuff in the Zune thread though if you wish to be owned go ahead and post all the stereotypes you've heard here and we'll derail this thread with a tribute to your stupidity.

7/2/2007 3:35:11 PM

my stupidity? i'm not the one who bought a Zune and now has to resort to namecalling in order to justify the terrible purchase

7/2/2007 4:07:14 PM

< super jealous of SandSanta and his new toy

You're going to have to let me check it out sometime. I played with one over at Brasa the other day but it wasn't activated so all i could do was unlock and lock the phone but that alone impressed me.

7/2/2007 4:08:00 PM

I called you stupid and asked you to state why a Zune is a terrible purchase. You don't have to repeat what I said in mock shock. Either reply with an argument or stop replying to me at all.

7/2/2007 4:28:42 PM

did you get a tattoo with it?

The Zune had a lot of potential too. Just got lost (like almost every hardware peripheral Microsoft makes) in the shuffle.

7/2/2007 4:32:01 PM

No I didn't get a 'Welcome to the Social' tattoo

7/2/2007 4:37:53 PM

The EDGE isn't bad up here (NJ/NYC metro) for webpages. I think in the large cities, AT&T upgraded EDGE's throughput. So far so good, lets me check gmail at work (access blocked from work computers).

It is the best iPod music player ever made.

7/3/2007 10:56:05 AM

You don't 'upgrade edge's throughput.'

7/3/2007 11:08:28 AM

http://datamining.typepad.com/data_mining/2007/07/iphone-and-anti.html



just to support whoever it was that made the point about the iphone hype

7/3/2007 11:21:08 AM

how to get around the 2 year contract and just use it as a wi-fi email/internet and ipod device -
http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/07/03/prepaid-and-nonpaid-iphone-plans-101

7/3/2007 11:34:12 AM

how long do you think that'll last

7/3/2007 12:03:27 PM