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"So it's not okay to call someone a nigger or a fag, but it's ok to post pics of a nude prof? Make up your mind about this whole 'high road' thing."

she posted them herself. It's not like someone hacked into her personal AOL page and posted them there. She posted them herself and they were linked to here. Big fucking difference.

3/12/2007 10:38:14 PM

specter, you're comparing apples to oranges. I'm not aware of this prof incident, but anyone having something viewable on the web and it get's copy and pasted to another portion of the internet is not out of line, if the prof is offended, then so be it, the prof has no legitimate argument. Lawson regardless of the nature of the dunk, does not deserve the slurs or the physical threats, of which I'm sure most of the body builders on TWW could carry out just what they suggested on Lawson.

3/12/2007 10:41:28 PM

I'm not talking about the prof or what she did. Likewise, this argument isn't about the actual dunk. It's about WHAT PEOPLE POSTED. The whole idea is that NCSU's reputation will be on the line somewhere along the way. I honestly dont give a shit about either.

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 10:45 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2007 10:44:02 PM

honestly, i really wouldn't be surprised if this did make it onto national news. i still don't find it the least bit newsworthy, but that doesn't change the fact that it's been making rounds all over the messages boards of schools all over the place, not just in the acc.

3/12/2007 10:45:40 PM

The scariest thing of all is that those UNC shysters lurk these boards...They could be anywhere. They're probably in this thread watching us right now, just salivating at the prospect of finding something new to smear us with.

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 10:48 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2007 10:46:22 PM

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"I'm not talking about the prof or what she did. Likewise, this argument isn't about the actual dunk. It's about WHAT PEOPLE POSTED. The whole idea is that NCSU's reputation will be on the line somewhere along the way. I honestly dont give a shit about either."

non-issue v. issue. you are dumb.

3/12/2007 10:46:32 PM

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"I honestly dont give a shit about either."

Well there are much more that do, probably a little older and wiser than the majority of TWW

3/12/2007 10:47:43 PM

this thread is just another example of the poor moderation of this section. this thread has nothing to do with sports.

3/12/2007 10:47:44 PM

unless it hurts our recruiting

3/12/2007 10:49:05 PM

People can think what they want to think. You can't stop them. People can also say what they want to say up here if the Mod wants to take it down let them. I think people should have to be authenticated to post up here. Alot of people put crap up here that do it to start shit. If you want to say something have the balls to let people know who is saying it. What Lawson did was classless. We decided not to foul or guard him but rather let the clock run out. He decided to run and dunk like a little Bitch would do. Thats a sucker punch it was done to humiliate NCSU and run up score. All the UNC fans are making fun of our team. Hello we were picked to be dead last in the ACC we have one returning starter and a new head coach and we still played them harder than any other ACC team.

3/12/2007 10:49:24 PM

I apologize if this is a stupid question, but assuming this whole thing did get blown into a national issue, would it result in the shutting down of t-dub? What would be the implications if that were the case?

3/12/2007 10:49:37 PM

Beardawg should lock this crap

3/12/2007 10:50:45 PM

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"this thread has nothing to do with sports."

It will be about sports when the rest of the ACC coaches put that thread in the copy machine for 100 copies and mail a bound copy to every single recruit of ours.....

And you can bet that little disclaimer about not being affiliated with the university will be left out


[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 10:52 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2007 10:50:47 PM

All I was doing was responding to this:

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""No one cares about pornography & foul language anymore""

which nutsmackr took the wrong way. All I was saying was the pictures would affect SOMEONE (either outsiders, ncsu officials, whatever), and that SOME PEOPLE might care. Holy shit, is that too hard to understand?

3/12/2007 10:52:37 PM

^Actually I wish anything associated with NCSU, weather officially or unofficially, was FULLY moderated, but my point was that AT THE VERY LEAST, we should moderate the racist & homophobic stuff


[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 11:04 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2007 10:54:22 PM

This whole thing is really bad, this kind of language makes our school look really classless. While i think the dunk was out of line I think this kind of press is really damaging

3/12/2007 10:54:34 PM

we should be at the point where naked photos do not offend people.

3/12/2007 10:55:02 PM

no you compared pornogrpahy ( a woman posts the pics of herself, and they are copied and pasted) to threats and slurs (totally unwarranted), and they are world's apart but you apparently think they are similar in this post you made:

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"So it's not okay to call someone a nigger or a fag, but it's ok to post pics of a nude prof?"

and your getting upset because we can't interpret your ambiguous at best argument is a little out there to say the least.

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 11:00 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2007 10:55:48 PM

why should this topic be locked? Its a reasonable discussion on something fucked up that happened yesterday. Nobody is supporting what happened but people have different opinions on what should happen now that its a story.

3/12/2007 10:56:31 PM

I agree. I think Wolf Web will be considered a part of NCSU because its mainly state students. Granted half of the stuff posted up here is just bullshit and we all know it. When others who don't understand the message board read it they will think its full of racist.

3/12/2007 11:01:00 PM

maybe we shouldn't post racist stuff.

3/12/2007 11:03:12 PM

maybe we should be talking about the BS play ty lawson made at the end of the game and how it showed extremely poor sportsmanship to score when you *know* you are going to win and the only reason you do it is to make a highlight reel. It was classless and in poor taste.

The comments made my a SELECT FEW pale in comparision to what some showboating player made to add 2 more points to his name

3/12/2007 11:06:34 PM

Not really, no.

3/12/2007 11:07:30 PM

those comments have real reprecussions where as that dunk doesn't.

3/12/2007 11:07:31 PM

^^^
I agree, that's more uncalled for

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 11:08 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2007 11:07:45 PM

dunks and unsportsmanlike athletes have not held down people for centuries like words have. The fact is nigger was a word used to make blacks less than human so it would therefore be morally sound to hold them as slaves and later deprive them of civil rights.

A dunk or showboating has never done anything like that.

3/12/2007 11:11:21 PM

Aha. They act so shocked.

3/12/2007 11:12:26 PM

Somebody should bump the old news 14 carolina thread so we can remind all the UNC/WRAL people browsing TWW that we're getting pretty used to public attention.

3/12/2007 11:13:34 PM

Just add it to the list, bitches.

3/12/2007 11:15:49 PM

omg i am upset by something i read on an internet messageboard

3/12/2007 11:18:03 PM

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"The fact is nigger was a word used to make blacks less than human so it would therefore be morally sound to hold them as slaves and later deprive them of civil rights."

not arguing that point at all, however, then why is it ok to hear in many songs?

Look, we can debate the fact that it was wrong to say what was said, however, it was wrong to say those things, but why is it ok to use those words at other times?
double standards are wrong all the time

and so is showboating to a team you have beat and knows you have beat them so they don't play defense thinking you are going to run out the clock and call it a game.... it was poor sportsmanship and has been left totaly unaddressed

3/12/2007 11:18:27 PM

Move this thread out of sports talk or lock it. sooner people stfu about, the sooner it will go away. We are just being trolled by fags at IC who dont even post here



Should be talking about Drexel and the fucking NCAA tourney

3/12/2007 11:19:20 PM

Drexel is going down

3/12/2007 11:20:26 PM

I'm not defending the use of nigga in pop music these days. And that is still a red herring statement. and the reason why that dunk won't be addressed is because no one really cares. UNC is the media darling and will not have bad light shown upon it.

3/12/2007 11:20:29 PM

^exactly my point. It won't be discussed and you have to wonder why something said on an internet message board is worth of a news story, worse stuff is said on here and other messageboards all the time. sadly...

I wish it didn't happen but there is no rule against limiting speech even when you sound stupid. (the people who made the comment)

oh yeah and GO PACK Drexel is going dooooooooowwwwwwwwwnnnnnn

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 11:24 PM. Reason : drexel]

3/12/2007 11:23:34 PM

you are right, it isn't news worthy, but at the same time racism should not be tolerated. and as a private entity, Tdub has the right to censor speech. As I said, this is not the public square.

3/12/2007 11:24:38 PM

That dunk took away from what was a great game yesterday. Thats pretty much the only thing that was shown on sportscenter like it was a game changer or something.


I mean that was really a great game. There's no reason for that crap. There's no reason to post that crap on tww or anywhere. There's no reason for UNC fans to post the same thing about Gerald Henderson on youtube.


Thats why this needs to be dropped. Its not exclusive to NC State. It shouldnt be allowed anywhere, but it is, and NC State shouldnt be singled out for it.

3/12/2007 11:26:38 PM

Yeah this needs to go to The Soap Box for sure. It brings up a lot more issues and sub arguments like why black people can call each other that word and it is all over their music and comedians routines but anybody else does and there's talk of lawsuits and all kinds of things. When some anonymous people, who may or may not be black, and may or may not even go NCSU made some comments in poor taste on a message board not even officially related to the University, and the news and everyone goes apeshit. I mean what if it was any other fan board, maybe a Honda car board and somebody goes and says that stuff. Yes it's wrong, and yes it's bad but would anybody start running in circles claiming that the Honda Motor Company just got embarassed and their reputation was just tarnished? Hell no, this should be entirely about individuals, maybe suspend those guys or something, and not at all about the University as a whole, or its image...

3/12/2007 11:28:13 PM

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"UNC fans are annoying nationwide"

3/12/2007 11:28:41 PM

swearing and foul langauge in general censored?

hmmm, this could develop to a thread in another forum non sports related... perhaps

the advice to let this be moved or locked or ignored should be considered...

I think it all has been said thus far and anything else is not sports related. yeah it sucks that it happened, racism is never right.
but the the day you start limiting speech is not a step in the right direction. preventing people from making ass hats of themselves, maybe, but how without limiting speech?

3/12/2007 11:28:48 PM

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"but the the day you start limiting speech is not a step in the right direction. preventing people from making ass hats of themselves, maybe, but how without limiting speech?"

the owners of this message board have a right to limit what they feel

3/12/2007 11:30:18 PM

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"When some anonymous people, who may or may not be black, and may or may not even go NCSU made some comments in poor taste on a message board not even officially related to the University, and the news and everyone goes apeshit."

That's exacly the problem. We are getting singled out for it and it's not fair, but we are getting singled out for it nonetheless, and we should do something to prevent that from happening again, suspensions, whatever, but something should be done because us getting singled out is a reoccuring thing


[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 11:36 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2007 11:33:30 PM

nice.
exactly where this belongs

3/12/2007 11:36:50 PM

ahahahah

gg beardawg.

3/12/2007 11:43:39 PM

"Niggergate" is gonna double FF's post rate.

3/12/2007 11:56:47 PM

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"as a private entity, Tdub has the right to censor speech. As I said, this is not the public square."

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"the owners of this message board have a right to limit what they feel"

I agree on both counts, but the owners of this website are not active members and they have not set any limits that I'm aware of.

I will go on record saying that I disagree with this content, but just because I disagree with it doesn't mean that it should be censored.

I like the fact that TWW is an almost no-holds-barred website. I don't need someone to censor other people's views. The anonymity of the internet is in many ways similar to the safety of a trusted friend. We hear things on the internet that people feel pressured to keep hidden in the real world. While I disagree with a lot of things that are said on TWW there is a brutally real side to it that I respect.

3/13/2007 12:01:39 AM

um, for you "free speech" folks out there, I'm pretty sure threats (covenient how those posts were left out of this discussion) of bodily harm aren't exactly free speech, but I'm checking the free speech portion of the amendment to see if threats are tolerated Not only that, but some of you are dissappointed in WRAL for broadcasting this stuff, AKA freedom of the press....So what happend in the game thread is freedom of speech and should be tolerated, but the press reporting it is "bad journalism, irrresponsible, etc" does not qualify????? I'm real confused about that one.



[Edited on March 13, 2007 at 12:30 AM. Reason : .]

3/13/2007 12:09:23 AM

^ No doubt.
But, if there's a threat the Raleigh PD should investigate it and take action. It's not like anyone actually thinks God is going to try to lynch anyone though. And aaronburro didn't sound serious to me either. I think you're blowing it out of proportion, but it's up to people outside of TWW to decide if action should be taken.

3/13/2007 12:28:23 AM

Hey I don't want any police action either, I'd rather the people who make the comments on the public message board do it to his face and face those consequences, I got a feeling it wouldn't be a joke then...... but we all know that would never happen.

3/13/2007 12:35:56 AM

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"I'd rather the people who make the comments on the public message board do it to his face and face those consequences"

This is really getting to be a tired argument.

3/13/2007 12:40:25 AM