man 1080p is the true hd

11/1/2007 12:52:46 PM

^thats why i'm loving my HDMI xbox360 with HD-DVD. I removed my Toshiba A1 from my home theater setup and let my gf use it at her house because the xbox is so much better on so many levels. Besides being 1080p...its more convenient for me because it doesn't take 20 minutes to open/close load movies etc...it is a lot smaller. and it opens up a slot in the shelves for a blu ray player.

11/1/2007 12:57:16 PM

yeah i think i really want the 360 add-on, but for 100 dollars it is hard for me to wait it out to see if i can get a brand new 360 add-on dirt cheap.

11/1/2007 12:59:15 PM

Thye 360s are just so damn loud though. Takes surround sound to drowned out the hum. :-/


Think I'll wait on the nicer HD-DVD drives to drop in price a tad more.

11/1/2007 1:15:20 PM

loud? really? i never noticed the loud unless there are no sounds in the room. Even then its not much louder than most electronics i've used.

11/1/2007 1:16:27 PM

It's not super loud, but if there is a quiet point in the movie/game then I can hear it and it does draw my attention away

11/1/2007 1:24:18 PM

man i love the a20...it's the 1080p version of the a2 and amazon.com has some really great deals on it. it does take about 20 seconds to startup and open the dvd tray though.

i have that upstairs with my sharp aquos in the bedroom and i have the hd dvd addon in the tv room with a 720p samsung. i honestly can't tell the difference between the two unless i'm less than 5 feet away from either one. if blu-ray ever has a decent, competitively priced stand-alone...i'd get that, but i'll probably just wait for the ps3 to have some great games and go for one then.

[Edited on November 1, 2007 at 1:25 PM. Reason : .]

11/1/2007 1:24:53 PM

Toshiba - HD DVD High-Definition DVD Player Model: HD-A2 - $99 @ BestBuy
Sold Out Online - May still be available in stores
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=GSSV0CYAH3BEXKC4D3IFAGI?skuId=8021767&st=hd-a2&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1158323325814

Forgot to mention the 7 free HD DVD's
http://www.bestbuy.com/site//olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat133500050008&type=category

[Edited on November 1, 2007 at 1:53 PM. Reason : .]

11/1/2007 1:48:41 PM

I would only be worried about getting 1080i rather than 1080p if my TV blew ass.

Might have to go get the standalone HD DVD player later tonight...

11/1/2007 2:01:02 PM

Quote :

"Isn't 1080i at 60 frames per second going to give you the same quality at 1080p at 30 frames per?"

You really really REALLY want to play movies at 24hz at 1080p. this isn't a HD DVD vs Blu-ray thing, since just about every media producer who is worth his salt will be encoding movies in this. The crap comes from your player, and the interface between your player and your TV.

when any object moves horizontally, or especially when the camera pans horizontally, you'll see interlacing artifacts as jagged edges. the faster the camera pans to the left or right, the more obvious the interlacing will be.

you'll notice 2:3 pulldown artifacts if you're running at 60hz, and the screen will appear to jitter. **anyone can see these if they know what they're looking for, it's not something as imperceptable as DTS vs TrueHD audio.

Quote :

"I have a ps3 and I am considering buying this for 100 bucks. No brainer."

likewise.


[Edited on November 1, 2007 at 2:22 PM. Reason : link]

11/1/2007 2:21:45 PM

You're going to have pulldown of some kind unless you have a 120Hz TV or a TV that somehow manages to operate at both 24Hz and 30Hz.

11/1/2007 2:35:31 PM

Quote :

"FanatiK All American 2626 Posts user info edit post ^no, not the same at all "

i think this could be argued but youre not worth the time


[Edited on November 1, 2007 at 5:26 PM. Reason : .]

11/1/2007 5:26:23 PM

i got one of the hd dvd players

now i'm good regardless of the format

11/2/2007 8:06:16 AM

http://slickdeals.net/?permadeal=10610#direct_deal_10610

get it shipped for $100 in-stock now

11/2/2007 8:58:26 AM

This product is not available. Please call.

11/2/2007 9:48:20 AM

The only way to get that player from Bestbuy is if a store actually has it in stock since it is a model that is disontinued at their stores. Most stores in this area do not have them in

11/2/2007 9:53:08 AM

So they were just dumping stock of an old model?

Quote :

"In a statement released late Thursday, Kmart VP Jonathan Magasanik said the following: There have been numerous statements in the media today, attributed to Toshiba, indicating exclusive support for the HD DVD format in Kmart stores. These statements are false. Kmart intends to support both the HD DVD and Blu-ray platforms, and has no plans to support either platform exclusively. http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Kmart/Kmart:_Were_Purple/1137"

Also next week (Nov 06), upcoming releases:

* The Aviator (Blu-ray)
* The Aviator (HD DVD)
* Battle of Britain (Blu-ray)
* Beowulf & Grendel (Blu-ray)
* A Bridge Too Far (Blu-ray)
* Cars (Blu-ray)
* I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry (HD DVD)
* Oldboy (Blu-ray)
* The Pixar Short Films Collection: Volume 1 (Blu-ray)
* Ratatouille (Blu-ray)

With a 97% rating on rottentomatoes, and an 8.4 on imdb, i KNOW i'm getting the last one.

11/2/2007 10:43:49 AM

man i wish oldboy was on hd dvd

11/2/2007 10:47:29 AM

anybody been to walmart yet?

11/2/2007 11:09:52 AM

Quote :

"anybody been to walmart yet?"

Quinn and I were there this morning, the HD DVD players were pretty much sold out instantly.

11/2/2007 12:32:53 PM

which one?

11/2/2007 12:36:34 PM

i hope this piece of shit has s video because i dont own an hdtv

11/2/2007 12:37:02 PM

if you change your mind and want to sale it will give you 80 for it

11/2/2007 12:38:23 PM

Numbers are out on the 2nd week of Transformers sales! We have to wait until next week to see how Spiderman 3's first week of sales compares to Transformer's third week.

Quote :

" ...This puts the two formats neck and neck at 55/45, for the second week in a row. Of course this will have to go on for longer than that if they want to affect they year to date, which only changed 2% over the past two weeks and is now at 64/36."

11/2/2007 12:48:31 PM

ratatouille was awesome

11/2/2007 12:51:13 PM

Quote :

"i think this could be argued but youre not worth the time"

Of course it could, you have the ability to argue just about everything.

Thanks for sparing me...

11/2/2007 1:22:33 PM

Let the price war begin:... at these prices I don't see how Blu-ray will even survive

Toshiba HD-A3 HD-DVD Player + 9 HD-DVD Movies (4 Instant, 5 After Rebate) $200

"Best Buy has Toshiba HD-A3 1080i HD DVD player for $199. You also can choose up to 2 HD DVD titles free instantly (excludes preorders and boxsets) and get 5 more select HD DVD titles after mail-in rebate[fillable form]. The player comes with HD DVDs of 300 and Bourne Identity in the box, giving you a total of 9 HD DVDs"
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8494435&st=toshiba+hd-a3&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1186003898783

http://slickdeals.net/?permadeal=10614#direct_deal_10614

[Edited on November 2, 2007 at 2:01 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2007 2:00:43 PM

yay!

11/2/2007 2:09:26 PM

i don't see on the bestbuy site where it says 300 and born identity are in the box.

11/2/2007 2:11:30 PM

from the slickdeals thread:
"All 3rd Generation players from Toshiba come with 300 & Bourne in the box, it's guaranteed and should be expected. Toshiba announced this a while ago, and you find it already in the A30's & A35's, the A3 just took longer to get to the marketplace."

from amazon: ($249)
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-HD-A3-720p-1080i-Player/dp/B000U62N1S

"Technical Details

* HD DVD Playback
* DVD/CD Playback
* Upconversion for SD
* 720p/1080i resolution
* Includes Warner Bros' 300 HD DVD and Universal's The Bourne Identity HD DVD (packaged inside)"

[Edited on November 2, 2007 at 2:18 PM. Reason : ,]

11/2/2007 2:17:52 PM

you guys remember back in the day when we had blu ray players? Now betamax players have a friend haha.

/end future transmission.

11/2/2007 2:21:22 PM

i have a weird suspicion that if i wait until after thxgivin i can get an even better deal!

11/2/2007 2:27:46 PM

What are the differences between the Toshiba HD-A2 and the Toshiba HD-A3?

My reaction to all of it is just dumping discontinued models from last year... It's not a bad idea though. I remember specials on 42" HDTVs in the $1000 range -- the catch was that they were only 1080i, something buyers would only realize if they looked up reviews on the specific model. And since they bought 1080i TVs, why not buy a 1080i player, AMIRITE?

From what I can tell, the Toshiba HD-A30 is the cheapest in their line that does 1080p, and retails for around $350... but hey, that's $50 less than a Playstation 3.

11/2/2007 2:33:05 PM

i think one difference is that the a2 has ethernet connectivity so you can update firmware, but don't quote me on this.

nm

[Edited on November 2, 2007 at 2:39 PM. Reason : sdfg]

11/2/2007 2:35:34 PM

^^the A20 is 1080p (http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-HD-A20-1080p-DVD-Player/dp/B000MKC34E)

that's what i have and i love it...

11/2/2007 3:05:23 PM

^^^your reaction doesn't matter because you don't represent the masses. The masses are the ones that buy last years stuff because this year its affordable. Uber-Nerds are a small percentage because they're all either students with no money or cheap and don't buy anything that isn't 'open source'

11/2/2007 3:12:06 PM

Quote :

"Of course it could, you have the ability to argue just about everything. Thanks for sparing me... "

I'm glad you let me spare the effort for once.

At least you know you're wrong sometimes , it is a step in the right direction.

[Edited on November 2, 2007 at 3:38 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2007 3:38:00 PM

Quote :

"My reaction to all of it is just dumping discontinued models from last year... It's not a bad idea though."

It's almost like they're making a high definition DVD format that they want consumers to own. It's a novel concept, really.

11/2/2007 4:06:44 PM

i think it is a retarded move signaling the end

but i need a dvd player that doesn't lock up (thanks 360) and it playing hd-dvds , 5 of which are free is a welcome bonus.

its hard to go wrong when an oppo is so expensive still

11/2/2007 4:10:00 PM

Sony says not to expect the price of Blu-Ray players to drop below $400 anytime soon.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/sonyprice110107.htm

11/2/2007 4:32:41 PM

the real question is, are the price changes permenant and how quickly will it alter the prevailing landscape.....

blu-ray is still quite a bit ahead, and it doesn't seem to be changing much overall

11/2/2007 4:38:36 PM

once the 'normal' people catch on to what hd dvd is the hd dvd will win. right now it all about technophiles buying, shit i know people that think a hd dvd is a dvd shown on a hdtv, wtf.

11/2/2007 4:40:49 PM

the goddamn hd-a2 doesn't come with an hdmi cable

11/2/2007 7:38:33 PM

Quote :

"the real question is, are the price changes permenant and how quickly will it alter the prevailing landscape..... "

Well, they more than likely just moved about 50,000 HD DVD players in a day with a bunch more price cuts lined up soon, there's no way it doesn't have a substantial impact. Especially if the HD DVD attach rate holds up, last I heard it was something like 4:1.

11/2/2007 8:01:02 PM

The war is over for me. I now have both. I could give a shit who wins, what movies are only released on one. I can now buy what I want. 100 bucks, you cant beat that.

Anyone know a cheap place online for hdmi cables and switch?

11/2/2007 8:08:27 PM

http://www.monoprice.com for cables

11/2/2007 8:13:30 PM

^wow great prices. Thanks stein.

11/3/2007 10:39:02 AM

Bestbuy replaces backordered A2's with A3's.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9519

11/3/2007 10:50:57 AM

Quote :

"the goddamn hd-a2 doesn't come with an hdmi cable "

Yeah its so cheap I guess they didnt bother.

Use the one that came with your ps3 until you can order one.

11/3/2007 12:26:03 PM

what walmart in the area has or had these in stock - does the a2 come with 300 and born identity in the box?

11/3/2007 1:28:45 PM