Someone needs to make some of those free throw spinning spiral signs from the early 90s for Roy and his vertigo.

1/11/2008 3:29:05 PM

tarheel truly is just another word for faggot

[Edited on January 11, 2008 at 3:59 PM. Reason : .]

1/11/2008 3:32:39 PM

oh brother you've gone and fucked up page 8 too

1/11/2008 3:41:15 PM

Quote :

"tarheel truly is just another word for faggot"

1/11/2008 3:42:30 PM

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/709236.html


On what color jacket he will be wearing:
That’s the most important question (laughs)? I’m going with the school colors tomorrow. It’ll be red.

On Courtney Fells’ injury:
He was walking on it yesterday. He was feeling a little better today, we’ll have to see how much he can do in practice. It’s really going to be day-to-day.

On Dennis Horner’s:
Dennis, probably the same thing, we’ll have to wait and see with him as well … Dennis is a little further ahead.

On how he judges whether or not a player can play through an injury:
I sort of leave that up to the player and doc really, because different player have different tolerance levels and what they can handle. Certainly I don’t want anyone out there that’s hurt, but I would hate to tell a player not to play when he’s dying to play and think he can do something.

On who would start if neither guy can go on Saturday:
We haven’t decided yet. That’s something we’re looking at because we’re not only looking at the guy that’s starting but we’re also looking at who we’ll have coming off the bench, what’s a better combination for us. Do we go with a guy that might be able to make more shots or a guy who’s more defensive-oriented for us? We’re still talking about that.

On how he thinks the team has played during the seven-game winning streak:
I think we’re playing pretty good under the circumstances. We’ve had some key injuries for us, especially with Dennis being out and Farnold not there. We’re playing well, especially from a defensive standpoint. Our defense has really been good. The only thing is, at time we haven’t shot the ball well and made as many shot as we’ve wanted to. I think the guys are doing a nice job making adjustments against different styles of teams, being patient, especially on the defensive end. It sounds strange to be patient on the defensive end, but we’ve been that way because we’ve played teams that held the ball and were very patient offensively and waiting for us to breakdown defensively and we haven’t done that.

On if it’s a relief to play a team that will not slow down the game and play man-to-man defense:
You’re never relieved to play the top team in the country, but I think from the standpoint that our guys will know what to expect, probably from this point on and what we’ve prepared for has been more man-to-man. I think they welcome the challenge of playing against a team that’s going to predominantly play you man-to-man and be tough and aggressive.

On if he’s glad he doesn’t have to sell this game’s importance:
I’m glad that they’re probably going to be self-motivated on this one, but at the same time I still have to let them know how I feel and what this game means. The competition, the rivalry, the two schools, you’re playing against the top team in the country – but I still feel they need to know how I feel about it.

On how injuries have affected the preseason desire to run a more uptempo offense
Certainly, personnel is a factor. Farnold is more north-south. He wants to get it and go and that’s his game, Marques is more of a control player and Javi is somewhere in between so they’re not guys who really look to push it as much. We still like to get the rebound and push it ahead and see if we can get some easy baskets, but I think also we’ve played against some teams that really didn’t allow it. They did a nice job of having tempo of the game and playing the zone and not allowing us to get back and get some easy baskets. Certainly personnel is a factor right now. We don’t have that jet like Farnold in there right now, but we’re still going to look to kick the ball ahead and see if we get some easy baskets.

What concerns him the most about UNC:
They can make you concerned in different areas, they can have the ability to really get out and run the floor. They can get out and run one through five. They just play the game, they push the ball up the floor and then they’re so smart that they read situations. They just play where you don’t have to call a set, they just read each other and they make plays. It’s always difficult to guard a team like that because you’re trying to defend sets but when you have guys that just know how to play and have a feel, it’s hard to prepare. You have to be solid on your defensive end. You have to be basic, fundamentally sound. Their running game certainly concerns you because they can get out and do that. I think that’s the biggest thing. I think they have the big guy inside that they can go to and Lawson is always a load coming at you. They have shooters, Ellington can go for 30. But I think it’s just the way they play, that’s the main concern.

On being in better shape physically since falling ill during last year’s game at UNC:
I think last year I could’ve five minutes a game where now I can give you 10 minutes. Nah, I’ve been great. I’ve been watching what I’ve been eating and not having those late-night meals where I’m watching film, snacks and things. I took a little suggestion from coach [Roy] Williams when I was in the hospital. He asked me what I had for lunch and I said I didn’t have lunch, I was watching film and working and he said ‘exactly.’ So now, I get away, I take that hour and either get with they guys and do something or get away from the game itself.

On starting off the ACC season at No. 1 UNC and then at Clemson:
It is what it is, whether you like it or not you go play the game. I don’t have a complaint about scheduling unless it’s a game I don’t think we should play. It’s a game and we have to go do it. … I didn’t complain about it. I looked at it and wondered why us? But it’s just the way it came and you have to go play it. It’s a tough thing to do obviously, but depending on the outcome it could be a great thing.

On playing to the level of competiton:
I think there might be some merit to that. I’ve said this time and time again, when you have somewhat of a new group, young group in positions and guys, you’re going to have that at times. Again, not having that experience, and this is not because of our point guards, but when you don’t have that experienced leader, sometimes you do. So that energy has got to come from me, and that’s what I try to do recognizing our team. If that’s the case though, I expect us to go to Carolina and play OK. We have no choice, we have to play well over there because that’s a good ball club.

1/11/2008 4:02:48 PM

horner probable, fells doubtful

1/11/2008 4:03:13 PM

UNC asswhoopin definite

1/11/2008 4:15:51 PM

When I was a young boy growing up in Western North Carolina, mama used to work two jobs so I could have a dime to get a Coke every day. I guess that's why she never got around to teaching me not to trip over power cords.

1/11/2008 4:17:12 PM

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"Lawson is always a load coming at you"

lol

1/11/2008 4:17:51 PM

ahahahaha, WTFBBQ

Quote :

"North Carolina's Williams cuts scalp after tripping in office January 11, 2008 CHAPEL HILL, N.C. (AP) -- North Carolina coach Roy Williams cut his scalp Friday when he tripped over a cord in his office and hit his head on a door. Williams received five stitches at the university's student health services office and was unable to attend an afternoon news conference or appear on ESPN Radio for a scheduled interview. He was on his feet unaided immediately after the accident and showed for practice later in the afternoon wearing a USA Basketball cap, team spokesman Steve Kirschner said. Williams was in good spirits and chuckled at his fall. He said his foot got tangled in a cord while he was stepping over a table. The office also contained about two dozen basketballs for him to autograph. "The office is too small for all that dadgum memorabilia," he said. The top-ranked Tar Heels play North Carolina State on Saturday."

1/11/2008 4:28:42 PM

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"The office is too small for all that dadgum memorabilia"

hahahahah

1/11/2008 4:30:40 PM

Quote :

"On if it’s a relief to play a team that will not slow down the game and play man-to-man defense: You’re never relieved to play the top team in the country, but I think from the standpoint that our guys will know what to expect, probably from this point on and what we’ve prepared for has been more man-to-man. "

um.....if I am Roy Williams, im sitting here scheming zone defense for the entire game. Why? BECAUSE WE CANT PLAY AGAINST IT.

i guarantee you will see some zone against us...we cant shoot the damn ball anyways, so why wouldnt they play zone

1/11/2008 4:33:25 PM

i'm not convinced that roy williams actually draws up game schemes so much as he just recruits good players and tells them to have at it.

all joking aside, i can't imagine they don't use some flavor of a zone defense for a while.

1/11/2008 4:41:18 PM

wow 21 point dawgs

damn i hope we keep it close at the end of the game, then gavin will get fouled hit FT and win the game X

WOLF

1/11/2008 4:55:44 PM

hell yeah i'm gonna win some money

sid will have them play clock management all game...i might take the under too

1/11/2008 5:03:52 PM

i'm wondering what the "record" is for most posts before the game

1/11/2008 5:24:25 PM

Quote :

"i can't imagine they don't use some flavor of a zone defense for a while"

That's the rub, though. Do you

a) play zone, because your opponent won't handle it well, or
b) play man-to-man, because that's what you've practiced all year and that's what you're good at?

1/11/2008 5:37:03 PM

either way we're losing this game, amirite?!

1/11/2008 5:48:50 PM

hopefully we will keep it within 20, there is an outside shot of it being 30+ point win(for UNC)

[Edited on January 11, 2008 at 6:12 PM. Reason : w]

1/11/2008 6:11:25 PM

Quote :

"(for UNC) "

orly?

1/11/2008 6:17:22 PM

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"i'm wondering what the "record" is for most posts before the game"

Probably some of my "Days before _______ game" threads that I annually make after basketball season that count down to the first football game. I know the one for VaTech had something like 70k+ views and was on page 20 or 30 something before the game. Of course this years countdown thread started early considering how bad we've looked and how hyped a game it will be around here. It's @ South Carolina and is the first college football game of the season. It will be a nationally televised game.

[Edited on January 11, 2008 at 7:21 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2008 7:20:02 PM

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"hopefully we will keep it within win it by 20, there is an outside shot of it being 30+ point win(for UNC us)"

Fixed it for ya

1/11/2008 7:23:43 PM

http://videos.newsobserver.com/index.php?a=player&id=1649104

Quote :

"You know it's just gonna be another big time game, it always is. I don't really see it as too much different than the Duke game. I feel like the media definitely makes a bigger deal about the Duke game. I feel like on the court NC State-North Carolina is just as scrappy as the Duke-North Carolina game."

- Marcus Ginyard


So Carolina fans we aren't your rival, but the game is played at just the intensity level as the Duke game? Care to explain that?

1/11/2008 7:55:21 PM

No knowledgeable fan actually believes that, most say it to get a rise out of you.

1/11/2008 7:56:56 PM

Quote :

"That's the rub, though. Do you a) play zone, because your opponent won't handle it well, or b) play man-to-man, because that's what you've practiced all year and that's what you're good at? "

triangle and 2 or box and 1. man up on the one or two "shooters" and zone the rest to contain the inside.

1/11/2008 8:06:20 PM

Despite being from InsideCarolina.com, this is a pretty good article that breaks down the two teams and their statistics.

http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/719131.html

A Tale of Two Rivals
By Greg Barnes
Inside Carolina
Posted Jan 11, 2008

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. – This was supposed to be the year that Tobacco Road enemies North Carolina and N.C. State were going to battle each other in rivalry games that would legitimately decide the ACC championship. While that may still hold true, these two programs have taken divergent paths in arriving at Saturday’s showdown.

To compare and contrast these squads makes for quite the interesting exercise. North Carolina (16-0) entered the season as the overwhelming favorite to win the ACC, but N.C. State (11-3) was not too far behind, trailing second-place Duke by only 12 votes. Both teams boasted a dominant post player (UNC’s Tyler Hansbrough and NCSU’s Brandon Costner), and both Roy Williams and Sidney Lowe demanded an up-tempo style of basketball that would ignite their fan bases.

Therein lies the first and most prominent difference in these two programs. While UNC’s Ty Lawson (13.5 points and 5.4 assists per game) is arguably the nation’s best point guard in the open court, NCSU began the season with a triumvirate of inexperienced players at position – sophomore transfers Farnold Degand and Marques Johnson, and true freshman Javier Gonzalez. Degand earned the starting nod and displayed gradual improvement in running Lowe’s offensive system – despite posting 19 turnovers to only 29 assists in 10 games – before tearing his ACL in a victory over Cincinnati on Dec. 23.

In addition to Degand’s season-ending injury, other Wolfpack players that have missed time include junior guard Courtney Fells (ankle sprain) and sophomore forward Dennis Horner (ankle sprain). North Carolina counters that list with junior guard Bobby Frasor (season-ending ACL tear), Ty Lawson (ankle), Quentin Thomas (ankle) and Alex Stepheson (personal reasons) – all of whom missed at least one game.

Degand’s loss was a crushing blow to what Lowe wanted to accomplish in the open court.

“I think Marques is more of a control game, and Javi is kind of in-between, so they are not guys that really look to push it up,” Lowe said during his Friday press conference. “We still like to get rebound and push it ahead and kick it ahead and see if we can get some easy baskets… I think certainly personnel though is a factor right now. Right now we don't, we don't have that jet like Farnold in there right now, but we're still going to look to push the ball ahead and see if we can get some easy baskets."

The Wolfpack has struggled offensively since Degand’s injury, scoring 50 and 54 points, respectively, in recent wins over Presbyterian and North Carolina Central. NCSU is averaging just 67.3 points per contest (11th ACC), compared to UNC’s 92.1 points per game (1st ACC).

But if you’re wondering how those offensive numbers and the Wolfpack’s 11-3 record match up together, all you have to do is look toward their defensive statistics. N.C. State is only allowing 61.3 points per game (3rd ACC) and their opponents are managing just a 37.7 shooting percentage (3rd ACC).

In a direct contrast, North Carolina’s most pressing concern is its defensive play – specifically its on-the-ball guarding ability. The Tar Heels rank in the middle of the conference in field goal percentage defense (41.8 percent – 8th) and 3-point percentage defense (32.1 percent – 6th). Williams has been adamant about what his squad must do to improve in that regard.

“I think it’s pressuring the ball more, getting out and denying and just stopping the other team from doing what they want to do,” Hansbrough said. “I think that’s what Coach [Williams] wants us to do. He also wants us to box out and do that better, and only allow teams one shot.”

Frasor even played the role of bench coach when asked about correcting North Carolina’s defensive inefficiencies during Friday’s press conference.

“If we stay in front of the basketball and focus on where you’re supposed to be, help early and then this team defensively can be really good,” Frasor said, who will have surgery to repair a torn ACL in his left knee at noon on Monday at the UNC Hospitals.

One thing is for sure, though – when these two bitter rivals meet on the hardwood Saturday afternoon, you can toss the stats into the trash bin located underneath your sink.

“It’s going to be another big-time game – it always is,” junior wing Marcus Ginyard said. “I don’t really see it as too much different from the Duke game. The media definitely make a bigger deal about the Duke game, but I feel like on the court, N.C. State and North Carolina is just as scrappy of a game.”

1/11/2008 8:57:11 PM

GO TO HELL CAROLINA! and i'm drinking already

1/11/2008 9:05:50 PM

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,891144,00.html

Good Time magazine article from 1955 on State when they were ranked #3 in the nation at the time. Later in the article is said that Kentucky ranked #1 and Duquesne ranked #2 both lost that weekend, so I guess State would rise to #1. Unfortunately we were on probation at the time and couldn't go to the NCAA tournament. It also talks about the impact Case had on basketball in the area. Great read.

1/11/2008 10:18:03 PM

we were on probation in '55 too? damn

1/11/2008 10:19:26 PM

due to "enthusiastic recruiting" by our "rednecked jumping jack"

1/11/2008 11:29:11 PM

ellington is a liability on d and maybe thompson as well but ginyard lawson green and t are great on d. You also have to keep in mind that they give up a lot because they shoot so fast and score so much it often doesn't matter. They are a pretty solid defensive team not great though and maybe not as good as us.

1/11/2008 11:38:05 PM

unc allows 90.2 points per possession, 39th in the nation

we allow 93.3, 58th in the nation

the offensive efficiency scores on the other hand are worlds apart

[Edited on January 11, 2008 at 11:51 PM. Reason : me no good english]

1/11/2008 11:51:26 PM

LET'S MOTHERFUCKING DO THIS! GET SOME!

WOLF!

1/11/2008 11:58:28 PM

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"unc allows 90.2 points per possession"

wat?

1/11/2008 11:58:55 PM

PACK!

1/12/2008 12:00:26 AM

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"unc allows 90.2 points per possession, 39th in the nation we allow 93.3, 58th in the nation "

those are interesting statistics. please, tell me more.

1/12/2008 12:06:35 AM

^^^You know, the old fashioned 90 point play

[Edited on January 12, 2008 at 12:07 AM. Reason : a]

1/12/2008 12:07:21 AM

if that's the case, i'm changing my score prediction to:

UNC 89981
State 54689

1/12/2008 12:13:45 AM

haha oops

points per 100 possessions

1/12/2008 12:37:20 AM

I love stats, but thats a pretty worthless one.

1/12/2008 12:50:26 AM

so the statistic that accurately adjusts the scoring of a team to account for the pace is worthless

okay

1/12/2008 12:57:54 AM

Quote :

"um.....if I am Roy Williams, im sitting here scheming zone defense for the entire game. Why? BECAUSE WE CANT PLAY AGAINST IT. i guarantee you will see some zone against us...we cant shoot the damn ball anyways, so why wouldnt they play zone"

ya except that goes against unc's basketball philosophy, i would wager you will see absolutely no zone

1/12/2008 1:04:13 AM

roy has too much pride to drop a zone on us. he is a man to man guy and has said he despises the zone

1/12/2008 1:21:40 AM

i hope so.

1/12/2008 1:28:08 AM

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"Sidney Lowe demanded an up-tempo style of basketball that would ignite their fan bases."

Nobody else find this funny? We have the players this year and we slow it down more than Herb did.

1/12/2008 1:50:18 AM

when your offense involves brandon costner running from one end to the other, it's not going to be up tempo.

1/12/2008 2:09:13 AM

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"CHAPEL HILL -- UNC basketball coach Roy Williams is being treated for a laceration on his head. It is not expected to effect him coaching Saturday's game. University officials tell Eyewitness News Williams tripped over a cord in his office shortly before his weekly news conference. He was unable to attend the news conference and as a result it was canceled."

shit just got real

1/12/2008 2:40:49 AM

On another note: Why did the Raleigh dominoes just show highlights of unc dunking on us at the dean dome during there ad?



[Edited on January 12, 2008 at 2:45 AM. Reason : .]

1/12/2008 2:41:47 AM

ITS GAME DAY! 430 AM and the drinking begins!!!!!!!

1/12/2008 4:26:55 AM

stephenson smokes pole

1/12/2008 4:55:11 AM