hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
NB: I never indicated that Obama was finished--he may or may not be. My point is that I have been right about Reverend Wrong and none other than Barack Obama confirmed as much today.
Concerning the developing story, Obama said that Wright disrespected him. Do some of you really think this is not a serious situation? 4/29/2008 3:00:20 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
He said he disrespected Obama but and not other Americans. LOLOL.
I can't wait to here the DNC outcry about this.
Democrat jihad, dirka dirka! 4/29/2008 3:01:53 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
you sound like a schoolgirl rat. It's really sad.
I don't think it's serious, other than seriously the first step to ending this bullshit with Wright. Yeah it'll shift things a bit here and there but the bottom line is that we will hit the general election and maybe now we can talk about REAL SHIT. 4/29/2008 3:03:11 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^^ This is great for Hillary. Operation Chaos may be successful yet.
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:04 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 3:04:07 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
The only thing obama has going for him right now is the weak attention span of the american public. 4/29/2008 3:04:52 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
there's also the story going around that a clinton fundraiser set up the press club wright appearance because wright was apparently upset at obama's repudiation of him. i don't know how true those allegations are. 4/29/2008 3:05:13 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
you don't think this uncovers a HUGE divide of racial hatred amongst black church leaders???
what are you smoking???? this is huge. not just a few weeks problem. this is uncovering an entire new plane of attacks that hillary is going to use as well as problems for obama
wow, you seriously disturb me to be so blind of this
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:06 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 3:05:34 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My point is that I have been right about Reverend Wrong and none other than Barack Obama confirmed as much today. " |
I guess you do have a better idea of how idiots react to soundbites on TV (perhaps more insight?) - and how politicians have to handle said idiots.
so congrats, idiot4/29/2008 3:05:36 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I've heard the same.
Bill and Hillary know how to fight in the mud. They will attempt at all costs to bring their opponents into the pit with them. That's where they win.
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:05 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 3:05:48 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ It's true--both items.
^^ Opinions vary.
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:10 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 3:05:51 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "how idiots react to soundbites" |
ha! terp just called barack an idiot! lol. wow what a day
what do you think barack is responding too??
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:07 PM. Reason : .]4/29/2008 3:06:54 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
Nope, you're still giddy schoolgirls at the thought of his train flying off the tracks. This primary has been so sensationalized it's so fucking funny to see you guys freak out and get all dramatic. lol.
I saw Wright's speech yesterday, and was appalled. Wright resurfaced the AIDS conspiracy, citing a book he's read. Wright said this was an attack on the church, not him. I disagree. The only reason any of that got play was to attack Obama, pure and simple.
And Wright didn't just defend himself. He attacked Obama. He said Obama was just playing politics denouncing him. BS! Obama has been straightforward about what Wright meant to him, and where they disagree. Wright was clearly on the attack out of personal motives.
During the Q&A at the end, Wright looked like a prize fighter who had just won a victory - i.e., it was all about him, and he was absolutely nyah nyah to the questions, as if he was lobbing them all out of the park. But the way I saw it, his balls kept hitting the net.
It was appalling. It was embarrassing. And I knew the ONLY good thing to come of this is he had just handed Obama the keys to his escape. Obama is fully justified in denouncing him now and walking away. Wright was utterly selfish and more importantly for him - UNCHRISTIAN yesterday.
He did the right thing and on to a NEW narrative. 4/29/2008 3:07:16 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only thing obama has going for him right now is the weak attention span of the american public." |
That same attention span that follow this administration into Afghanistan and was immediately bamboozled into Iraq whilst in the midst of bloodlust?
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:08 PM. Reason : clarity]4/29/2008 3:07:24 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
so wtf does this mean^^
Barack Obama: "I can no more disown him than I can the black community" 4/29/2008 3:12:57 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
Quote : | "And Wright didn't just defend himself. He attacked Obama." |
I pointed this out earlier and was attacked. I guess I'm not on the right left side of the aisle.
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:13 PM. Reason : .]4/29/2008 3:13:16 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
Can we now get back to real issues?
The backwards ass media and all you chatty Cathie's should not hide behind a smokescreen while our economy deteriorates, gas prices escalate, and war rages on. 4/29/2008 3:16:02 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
^
Quote : | "i guess we'll finally forget about this guy when gas hits 8 or 9 dollars a gallon." |
just earlier this morning i said that!! but no!! you were too busy defending. now that you've lost you're finally moving on. lol4/29/2008 3:17:43 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
Rat - lol. You sound like a child.
Not even going to bother responding to you anymore. 4/29/2008 3:20:34 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Who in the fuck uses that shit?4/29/2008 3:22:55 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Quote : | "If that helps you sleep at night" |
V bwhahahaha. lolol. they are loving it i'm sure. it'll all wash over in a matter of hours guys dont' worry
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:24 PM. Reason : .]4/29/2008 3:23:07 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
It's funny, go back and look at page 1 and 2 of this thread. Wright was your god. You were worshipping at the altar of this guy.
Haha, now you all want nothing to do with him.
This all happened in one thread.
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:23 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 3:23:34 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
hooksaw it means like little girls going nuts over the latest juicy gossip.
you guys totally salivate over any little political gaffe or drama you can - and overeact in this sick-cute way. It's really short sighted and a good laugh for me.
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:25 PM. Reason : i posted 1 comment about the NAACP speech which was drastically diff. nice try.] 4/29/2008 3:24:56 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
OMG, Kainen, this is too easy!
Quote : | "Kainen: WOW. I thought at first - oh god, please someone shut this guy up because he is fucking with Obama but I mean. wow.
that was a fascinating speech. Regardless of how you feel about the man, you have to hear it. Even CNN was flabbergasted about how amazing it was. They actually said it was 'unbelievable' He kind of turned the tables on the perceptions..." |
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:25 PM. Reason : .]4/29/2008 3:25:36 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
for the record: i only salivated over his naacp speech from sunday. i still think that speech was great. the press club thing yesterday is an entirely different matter.
(^again, we're talking about two different speeches here)
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:26 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 3:26:04 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
That's a separate speech, genius. Nice try though! One more fit for the giggling republican fun boys of the thread!
GIGGLE 4/29/2008 3:26:41 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
the repubs could run a damn ostrich for president and beat these kids. lolol
Obama: "these were just a bunch of rants grounded in no truth."
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:27 PM. Reason : ^^^] 4/29/2008 3:26:53 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "terpball: Anyway, after watching Wright for the past 2 days speaking out, I feel like I've been missing out on a lot since I've never been a part of this "Black Church" community." |
^^ IT'S THE SAME DAMN MAN THAT YOU GUYS WERE WORSHIPING YESTERDAY AND DISOWNING TODAY
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:27 PM. Reason : .]4/29/2008 3:27:28 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
I never thought of Wright as my God, I still think he's cool - I definitely wish Obama didn't have to further distance himself from Wright - but that in perticular is something I really don't give 2 shits about. Obama had to do it to deal with the less educated voters who would let something stupid like this sway their vote! 4/29/2008 3:27:41 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
^^tell me where i disowned him? 4/29/2008 3:28:19 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
OMG RATZ LOLZ!
WTFbbq? NO CONTEST! STFU DEMOCRATZ NOOBZ, WINNAR! 4/29/2008 3:28:35 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "terpball: I liked Wright's social commentary last night and this morning - I think putting him out there in the public eye is doing nothing but good for this country. Of course I don't agree with everything he said, but I appreciate him having the balls to say what he's saying when he knows that EVERYONE is listening." |
That covers the press club event.
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:28 PM. Reason : .]4/29/2008 3:28:48 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "hey look, rat is making a fool out of himself again" |
Rat making a fool of himself?
terpball says
Quote : | "OH SHIT!!!!
This man is awesome! " |
Youve spent this whole thread defending this asshole, now even Obama isnt defending him. Which is hillarious. I really think obama is seeing the polls drop every time this nut speaks and had to do this.4/29/2008 3:29:13 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^tell me where i disowned him?" |
my carats were pointing at Kainen4/29/2008 3:29:28 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
How the fuck do you get this idea of 'worship' out of liking a speech?
It's the same bullshit conservative tactic of taking an inch and stretching it to a yard to label someone. With those insanely convenient argumentative tactics why not invalidate everything everyone says in the thread, jackass? 4/29/2008 3:29:51 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
obamaayerswrightpwn3d
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:30 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 3:29:58 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's the same bullshit conservative tactic of taking an inch and stretching it to a yard to label someone. With those insanely convenient argumentative tactics why not invalidate everything everyone says in the thread, jackass?" |
Someone's defensive.
It's kind of the reciprocal of the democrats taking a huge blundering mess and turning it into
Quote : | "I can no more disown Rev. Wright than I can the black community" |
4/29/2008 3:31:28 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
awaiting wrights response 4/29/2008 3:33:58 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
IT'S OKAY GUYS... BARACK OBAMA WAS FOR REV. WRIGHT BEFORE HE WAS AGAINST HIM.
Hahaha, how did the John Kerry tactic work for you guys last time?
MY, MY, the democrats learn nothing. 4/29/2008 3:34:19 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
one thread
2 opinions
priceless 4/29/2008 3:35:08 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Someone's defensive." |
That's because you know I'm right.
If you had any intellectual honesty you'd concede it - but you don't so it's not worth trying.4/29/2008 3:35:22 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
paging don imus.
lol 4/29/2008 3:35:48 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
You're defensive... because... I know you're right? Wouldn't that make me defensive?
DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL?
PLEASE THINK BEFORE COMMENCING TO TURNING YOURSELF INTO A THOUGHTLESS MESS
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:36 PM. Reason : .]
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:36 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 3:36:00 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Obama had to do it to deal with the less educated voters who would let something stupid like this sway their vote!" |
herpball
So Obama's actually a liar? Elitist-sounding fuckhead.
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:36 PM. Reason : .]4/29/2008 3:36:18 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "one thread
2 opinions
priceless" |
about two different speeches4/29/2008 3:36:45 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
We learned that in San Francisco.
I CLING GUYS! I CLING!
^ Some people in this thread loved wright now they hate him. You, to your credit, have not shown that level of fickleness... but you're the minority.
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:37 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 3:37:09 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
I decided to retract that last comment. wasn't productive. Not much is. I think I'll leave it at that. Have fun with this thread....
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:38 PM. Reason : -0]
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:38 PM. Reason : 1]
4/29/2008 3:38:03 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
^ on the other hand, has had two drastically different opinions.
And he does himself a favor and departs.
Good'day.
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 3:39 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 3:38:40 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
neither candidates will win now without the super delegates
pwned 4/29/2008 3:39:17 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
that has been the case all along. 4/29/2008 3:40:17 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Obama had to do it to deal with the less educated voters" |
No shit, he is running as a democrat. 4/29/2008 3:41:01 PM |