you know for those kids who torrented it, you can also torrent the instructions, plans, and nutrition guides separately I hear

5/19/2009 9:34:11 AM

I hear that you can find a torrent that has it all in one

In other news, I started chest/back/triceps workout the other week and had to go get lighter dumbbells. Had no idea they were gonna pull out straight arm weighted circles and super sets and stuff like that. Have also added Yoga to my routine cus I feel like it will help get me bigger gains (I'm only doing the 3 strength workouts + yoga cus I don't have time to workout 6 days a week nor do I need to lose weight).

5/19/2009 11:19:20 AM

before and after pics!! some of you are close! awesome work, still trying to get my hands on the dvds so i can start it up

5/19/2009 12:24:14 PM

So, my wife and I have been doing this program for about 5-6 weeks now. I am on 5 weeks, she is on 6. We do all the exersizes as best we can, but for some reason, she is not able to tone down any. She has actually gained weight, which is fine in the beginning due to muscle gain and other stuff, but now she is not gaining or losing. She started this program (she is actually doing the P90X lean) to lose 15-20 lbs over the full 12 weeks. Is she doing something wrong? We have tried the meal plan, but its almost impossible to keep on and she eats more on that than she ever did before hand. Any ideas?

5/19/2009 1:49:15 PM

If you are doing P90X to lose weight.... well P90X is not meant to be a weight loss tool. Not to say that some people won't lose weight, that's just not the intent of the program.

My best advice would be to either change your goal to getting fit and not worry about what the scale says, or pick a different program designed for weight loss.

5/19/2009 1:57:49 PM

^^ Why is it almost impossible to stay on a meal plan?

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5/19/2009 2:17:07 PM

it is almost impossible because you have to make fifty thousand different items just to make one item. You have to buy 400 items each week and you can't buy small quantities so you have tons left over. Plus, who eats 6 egg white omelets, with cottage cheese, and protein bars that are crazy expensive. All you do all day is eat on this program. I know you have to intake more to gain more for muscles, but powders, bars, recovery drinks, and mass protein foods are just WAY too expensive.

5/19/2009 2:29:20 PM

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" 1. Two dairy products such as fat-free or low-fat milk, cream cheese, or yogurt. One piece of fruit. 2. Three servings of vegetables. For those who aren’t particularly fond of vegetables, a glass of V-8 juice can be substituted. 3. One to two teaspoons of a condiment such as mustard, barbeque sauce, or ketchup may be added to the meal. 4. Six small, 3 oz., servings of protein; e.g., chicken or turkey. 5. Three servings of carbohydrates, a cup of each such as rice, beans, or two slices of whole wheat bread. 6. One recovery drink or power bar may be added after your workout session."

That's just a sample, but based on that the prices, per person, per day should be approximately......

1. $2.00
2. $1.50
3. $.25
4. $4.00
5. $2.00
6. $1.50

Total = $11.25 per person, per day, not including the other ingredients you'd need to actually make these a meal. $675.00 per month minimum for a couple, based on a bare fridge and cupboards.

5/19/2009 2:48:37 PM

^^Are you sure she's not "straying" from the meal plan when you're not around?

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5/19/2009 2:49:13 PM

Shit, I would be.... that's about as bland as it gets. You'd be so sick of chicken/tuna/turkey after a month.

5/19/2009 2:55:07 PM

eating healthy is easy. when in doubt, eat veggies. protein is always good, make sure it's lean. i prefer turkey.

plain oatmean with raisins in the morning

a cup of coffee before a work out. amps you up and very little calories

drink water like an animal

if you want something sweet, eat fruit or yogurt.

muscle weighs more than fat so of course you will gain weight but muscle also takes up less space and burns more calories. she should take measurements and base her progress off that. additionally, if she's working out for an hour a day, she will be eating more but she needs to make sure shes eating smart calories and not empty calories.

5/19/2009 3:01:58 PM

Photo taken 2 weeks in in my gallery. As you can see I'm already skinny as shit, just need to put on some muscle. The confused look on my face is cus I was trying to get my crappy camera to stay still so it would focus Will take another at the end.

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5/19/2009 3:58:54 PM

you might have a hard time putting on weight if you arent careful. you look reasonably in shape. i am pretty skinny without a ton of tone and i looked like that about 4 weeks in. that said, i just couldnt gain any extra weight while staying on the food plan and working out 6 days a week.

few months later i just did my own version doing pushups in a circuit one day and doing weights on arm exercises the next, results were pretty similar.

now im trying to just do the weight exercises (rest in between days) and i find the results to be less pleasing. im probably going back do doing every day lighter workouts as that proved to be the best for me overall.

5/19/2009 4:21:38 PM

Also for better weight loss cut out as much carbs as you can but make sure you keep other shit like vegetables and protein in your diet so you are actually getting nutrition. My typical day food wise goes something like yogurt and a banana for breakfast, lunchtime I either bring like a lean cuisine to work or try to get subway or quizznos or something and thats about all the carbs I eat for the day as far as bread, then for dinner I eat some sort of meat like fish/chicken/turkey and vegetables and maybe a glass of OJ or something. Throw in recovery drink and a protein bar or something during the day for a snack and there you have it. Of course that is when Im actually doing the program, I find it easier to stick to the diet when Im with the program, if I take a week off or something I tend to also let the diet slack at the same time .

5/19/2009 5:17:58 PM

Quote :

"So, my wife and I have been doing this program for about 5-6 weeks now. I am on 5 weeks, she is on 6. We do all the exersizes as best we can, but for some reason, she is not able to tone down any. She has actually gained weight, which is fine in the beginning due to muscle gain and other stuff, but now she is not gaining or losing. She started this program (she is actually doing the P90X lean) to lose 15-20 lbs over the full 12 weeks. Is she doing something wrong? We have tried the meal plan, but its almost impossible to keep on and she eats more on that than she ever did before hand. Any ideas?"

How did she go about figuring out her daily caloric intake? The nutrition guide does a shit job in explaining it. Every beachbody coach I've talked to about it agrees with me. You should use your "ideal/target weight" to determine what level meal plan you follow, not your current weight. If weigh 250 pounds and your ideal body weight is supposed to be 140.. you don't need to be shoveling in 3000 calories a day. It's all simple energy balance, to lose weight you need to burn off more than you take in.

As for the "it's too expensive to eat healthy" excuse... you need to get that out of your head. I mean, it's always going to be cheaper and easier to go hit up the dollar menu at McD's, but that ain't gonna work.

You don't have to follow the meal plan to the letter of the law. I only make their recipes on occasion, and when I do.. i just save the leftovers for lunch the next day. Presto, one less meal to plan, cook, and pay for. What's important about the meal plan is that you get the general idea about healthy eating habits. It's not hard. Just avoid fried foods and unnecessary fats where ever possible, remember the grill is your friend, and eat your veggies. Marinades can turn grilled chicken taste about 100 different ways.

Use http://www.myfitnesspal.com or http://www.fitday.com to log your diet and keep track of your carb/protein/fat ratios. It's free.

Buy your supplements in bulk. It hurts less that way, like a band-aid, quick and easy.

Above all else, just stick with it. Keep moving forward and you'll get results. If you're wife is looking for faster results, try easing her into the classic. The lean version isn't much more than a warmup.

5/19/2009 5:36:48 PM

Plyometrics then hockey for an hour and a half = pain today

5/20/2009 9:31:52 AM

Well against my better judgment here are my 0-90 day pics (haha). I am certainly not super ripped, but I have lost a lot of my belly, and started to gain some definition. I am not one of those people who will be extremely muscular right away, but I think if I keep putting in effort I can get where I need to be.

This is with pretty much following the nutrition plan as spot on as possible, and doing regular P90X and taking supplements. For the majority of the program I replaced Yoga with Core or Cardio, but I have started picking it up more as of late.

I am gonna continue doing the videos and running more. It's a LOT of work but it actually feels good to take on something so challenging.

5/20/2009 11:35:45 AM

pretty damn impressive ^

5/20/2009 11:40:53 AM

definitely more toned! great job!

5/20/2009 12:15:00 PM

My wife and I just started the P90 program to sort of supplement our new diet / lifestyle change. I know we're not ready for the X, but it's neat to see people sticking with something like this.

5/20/2009 12:29:23 PM

^4

Great progress dude, congrats and keep it up

5/20/2009 1:52:41 PM

^5 looks very good for 90 days...awesome work

5/20/2009 6:54:21 PM

Thanks for all the positive comments guys. I know I still need a lot of work but it is nice to hear positive feedback. People I work with are noticing a difference, and people I haven't seen in over 4 months say they notice a really big difference, so it definitely makes it worth the effort.

Quote :

"it is almost impossible because you have to make fifty thousand different items just to make one item. You have to buy 400 items each week and you can't buy small quantities so you have tons left over. Plus, who eats 6 egg white omelets, with cottage cheese, and protein bars that are crazy expensive. All you do all day is eat on this program. I know you have to intake more to gain more for muscles, but powders, bars, recovery drinks, and mass protein foods are just WAY too expensive."

I want to spend a little bit more time on this post. I want to say that I do stand by my initial post, that this program is NOT NOT NOT meant as a weight loss program. I knew that coming in, but I kind of kept track of my weight just for information purposes. I started out at about 202 lbs. After the first month, I had actually gained some weight and was sitting at 207 lbs. The second month, I was back down around 200 lbs, and now, after 3 months + I just weighed myself and I am at 187 lbs.

I honestly don't care what my weight is. Any literature you read on P90X tells you that weight is NOTHING but a number. Society uses the scale as a measuring stick because weight is often proportional to your fitness level. A much better measuring stick is body fat percentage, so I would suggest investing in a nice measuring device (calipers, an electronic one, etc). As you do the program, and your body gravitates towards a better overall fitness level, you will reach your ideal weight.... that may be higher and it may be lower. For my height and body type, I am guessing maybe 180 lbs is where I should be, but like I said, if I look better and feel better, I don't care if I weigh 150 lbs or 250 lbs. I know it will be nearly tough to get your wife to buy off on this fact since women are naturally self concious about their weight, but have her do her own research.... don't rely on some idiot from TWW who chose FeebleMinded as a screen name.

As for the meal thing, yeah, if you try and do the meals as by the recipes, it can get very pricey, especially as you gather spices and stuff. Here was my approach, and it actually saved me tons of money in the long run.

1. At the beginning of each phase, I would follow the recipe plan as spot on as I could, just so I could find out the stuff I really liked. Sometimes I would just double up on a meal or snack (cottage cheese makes me vomit) but by the end of the first week I knew the stuff I really liked. Typically, out of the 7 day schedule, I really enjoyed about 4-5 days worth of stuff. So I would eat some kind of omelette or the English muffin/soy sausage thingy for breakfast, some variety of salad for lunch (I LOVED the Island pork tenderloin) and a meat/veggie/soup combo at night. This worked out really good, and as the months went on, my available menu grew pretty big. After I had all the spices, I actually saved money because I had stopped eating out altogether, which saved me $40-$100 each time we went out.

2. Supplements can get kind of hairy. I go to GNC, which I do not recommend if you are trying to save money. Lots of people buy online and get HUGE discounts, but to be quite honest I make plenty of cash and I would much prefer the convenience of just stopping by the store when I needed something. Still, even with going to GNC, I still only spent about $100 or so a month on supplements ($60 for protein powder which lasted me 2 months, $50 for a athletes multivitamin, and $40 for Creatine which I bought 3 months ago and still have a crap ton.) As for recovery drinks, the idea is to get a 4/1 carb/protein ratio (maybe it's the other way around.... I don't recall) but what I DO know is MANY people use half a scoop of protein powder and 8 ounces of grape or apple juice as a recovery drink. Works great and really cheap.

So spending roughly $100 on supplements a month, and probably saving... I don't even want to speculate how much by not eating out, I have actually noticed an increase in my savings. Good luck.

5/22/2009 4:41:26 PM

^spot on regarding this program and "weight loss". You could easily gain or lose weight, depending on what kind of shape you are before attempting this. I agree that people should be focused on being "fit" rather than skinny.

I am about to start the last recovery week of this program, and have really enjoyed the benefits of it. I feel better, I sleep better, and I have luckily shed most of my gut leaned down. Perhaps I will post my before/after pics as well next week since FeebleMinded has shared his (kudos to you for your results..I appreciate first hand how much time you have dedicated). I know there are a good handful of people on here trying this, I would like to see some of their results pictures also.

I really tried to keep to the nutritional guide as best I could but still enjoyed life. Over the last 3 months, I kept my drinking/partying to 1 night usually. I also have saved a ton of money on not eating out as much. I got some ideas from friends and from google for high protein/low carb options, and just tailored my diet to those as best I could. I haven't used creatine at all, only protein shakes and bars as supplements before/after muscle focus days...Honestly I am very pleased so far, and would recommend this to anyone who has a decent work ethic and wants quick, lasting results. Tony Horton is kind of the man, I still haven't gotten tired of his commentary on the workouts...

"Their working hard, I KNOW YOU ARE!"

and

"if this is your last workout of the day, it's a great time for a Recovery Drink"

p90X is the real deal.

5/22/2009 5:45:07 PM

two weeks and i was sick of hearing him caaaw like a pterodactyl

5/23/2009 8:37:28 PM

Starting week 2 after this post.

Week 1 went very well although I did skip Yoga to go play football. I'm going to try to do both this week. I also played hockey 3 times last week in addition to the workouts (including an hour after I finished plyometrics for the 1st time....it was brutal).

I stuck with the diet plan very well, however, I did get drunk while tailgating for the Canes game Saturday. I drank Vodka (~70 calories per shot) and washed it down with 100% Cranberry Juice (none of that sugary juice cocktail crap). Also instead of eating the other crap people were grilling, I grilled a turkey burger and vegetables

I just bought supplements for the 1st time yesterday so I'm going to try to mix them in my routine.

5/25/2009 10:02:51 AM

I am sharing the P90X program with a friend and we try working out together to make it easier to stay committed. The biggest thing is the commitment factor and time. I was fortunately in pretty decent shape already so I didn't need a major change, but wanted to get over that plateau and stay healthy. I do notice a difference, but nothing drastic as I am not full fledge following the program. However my friends have lost a significant amount of fat and look much healthier. As far as weight goes I haven't seen major change but I normally fluctuate 5-10 lbs normally anyways.

As far as weight loss goes for women, I would recommend the Turbo Jam DVDs, a sister product to P90X. My wife is doing them and at first she didn't liike them but after awhile she learned to like them. It also helped she got a few of her gfs to do it with her. She lost 20lbs so far, time frame I have no idea, but she plans on losing some more weight and toning up too. It might not be for everyone, but it was about the price of a month or two Gym membership and was worth the money for her.

As far as diet goes, we don't follow the programs, but have learned to eat healthier. That has helped alot and now found fast food restaurants nasty. Mix in fruits as deserts and veggies and nuts for snacks. You can still splurge on weekends or special occasions, but bad foods don't taste the same anymore. Not to say a nice chocolate bar on occasion doesn't sound or taste good.

Again the biggest thing I think is just changing your lifestyle. We were much healthier in college as we did things like play intramurals, rollerblading, or went dancing, etc. fairly often. Now we both work in offices and have a child and it's difficult to find the time to burn off empty calories like you used to. So we need to find a medium, and eating healthier was half the battle as well as mixing in some exercise.

5/26/2009 9:27:41 AM

195lbs to 175 lbs






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5/31/2009 2:03:28 PM

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5/31/2009 2:05:45 PM

^thanks. figured it out.

5/31/2009 2:10:20 PM

Awesome job.

5/31/2009 2:33:17 PM

Who's got some good healthy recipes that aren't in the P90x recipe book?

Here's one of my favorite meals so far:

-Coat 2 boneless skinless chicken breasts in garlic and herbs then grill (or any other low fat Italian marinade of your choice)
-Cook up some noodles (multigrain or whole wheat)
-While those are cooking, heat up 1.5 tablespoons of olive oil on very low heat
-Add 2-3 cloves of thinly sliced garlic and let them cook on very low heat for ~10 minutes. Stir often.
-Add fresh (or a can of) diced tomatoes and sliced chicken. I usually add some cooked broccoli too.
-Let that cook together for about 5 minutes then add a little basil, parsley, oregano and a pinch or more of salt and pepper to taste.
-Pour the noodles in and you're good to go...mmmm

You can get 2 servings out of this. Delicious, healthy and easy meal in under 20 minutes. You get your 1 carb, vegetables, proteins and your 1 fat for the day.

6/1/2009 8:18:16 PM

^^ hair cut was about 10 lbs of that loss! good job though man

6/2/2009 9:15:17 AM

For anyone who is even considering doing this..... man do it.

I am in the military and every 6 months we have a physical fitness test. When I first joined in 1997, I could run the 1.5 mile portion in about 10:30. As I have gotten older, I have seen my time steadily get worse until last year when I ran it in 13:45 and passed by only 1 second. That was one of many wake-up calls I got, but it is just really embarassing to almost fail a PRT (granted it is the Navy and physical standards are not nearly as high as the marines or Army, but still....)

Anyway, today I did my PRT and ran my 1.5 miles in 11:06. That is pretty much solely due to P90X, which by the way, incorporates NO running whatsoever (I did do one treadmill session a few days ago to try and prep.) I feel like basically I have turned back the clock 10 years. I also feel like if I work at it, I could actually get my run time down to 9:20, which is the highest bracket for my age group. That is amazing considering I was 1 second from failing 6 months ago.

I am really not saying all this to brag (although I am very proud), I am just posting this for anyone who may be thinking about this and is not sure whether they can get results. I am telling you, the results are there, physically, mentally, cardiovascularly, in every way I can think of, It just takes you committing to the program.

6/11/2009 2:37:02 PM

Anyone try some Tabata Training yet?

6/24/2009 7:00:32 PM

is there anyway to do any of these programs while still drinking daily? that's what I'd hate to give up honestly...I'm 5'10 and about 160 pounds but I drink a six pack a day or so but I'd like to have some more muscle definition and have been considering buying a copy of this off my friend

6/24/2009 7:34:49 PM

why the hell do you drink a six pack daily?

6/24/2009 8:53:17 PM

I'm on week 1 of phase 2

6/24/2009 10:02:58 PM

Haha because I'm an alcoholic, obviously.

6/24/2009 10:03:10 PM

Quote :

"Anyone try some Tabata Training yet?"

Yes. Seems so easy when you see it on paper. Hurts so bad when you do it in real life. A 16 minute Tabata will have you laying on the floor and gasping for air for 5-10 minutes after you're done if you really push yourself.

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6/24/2009 11:45:38 PM

i was thinking of trying out ~8min of tabata tomorrow on top of my no cardio current routine just for the hell of it

the first 4 being a lower body, alternating between jump rope and hill climbers and second 4 min alternate between pull-ups and handstand push-ups...i downloaded some tabata mp3s, should be quite fun

i believe I'll like the more strength based tabata styles than the classic cardio styles, i dont think i could stand doing sprints/bike although it seems more realistic since i'm sure after 2 minutes of my planned upper body tabata i'll be doing 2 pull-ups in the interval and just sit there idle during the handstand, we'll see!

6/25/2009 1:31:01 AM

I think I did push ups, sit ups, squats, and rows. 20 seconds on, 10 seconds off. 8 rounds of each or something like that.

If you're going to jump rope do double-unders. It's too easy to slack off and regain your breath during the singles.

6/25/2009 1:35:04 AM

tabata shit is definately brutal

6/25/2009 4:34:09 PM

i only did 4 minutes today, yea, that was nasty, I was doing girl push-ups by the end of the 3rd minute

6/25/2009 6:26:30 PM

anybody have the files with the nutrition plans/instructions? word/pdf...whatever.

6/29/2009 6:23:55 PM

I just torrented the documents.

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6/29/2009 7:27:11 PM

Quote :

"i only did 4 minutes today, yea, that was nasty, I was doing girl push-ups by the end of the 3rd minute"

Ha ha...told you so. I don't know if I agree with changing the method on push-ups to be able to do more though. I think part of the point of a tabata is to break you. If your max is 1 then your max is 1 and you just try to do better the next time you workout. It seems counter-productive, but working to failure on occasion can have its benefits.

6/29/2009 10:59:29 PM

^yea, I've done 2 more 8 min tabata sessions since, on my legs lifting day I used upper body only for the tabata, did pure push-ups the first 4 minutes and pure chin ups the last 4...i wouldn't even count the last 2 minutes for each muscle group as reps, more like half ass reps fun times

anyways...I was supposed to rest today but I wanted to get some LI cardio in, I did 45min of the P90X yoga and 30min of X-stretch

god damn yoga is fucking hard, the stretching was pretty fun and the guy is pretty funny....i hated him throughout yoga though, downward dog sucks balls

7/5/2009 12:01:57 PM

Haha, ok.

I started this thread about a year ago, and am FINALLY getting around to starting it.

Life got in the way and I knew that I wouldnt be able to dedicate myself to the program.

Yesterday was my first day and it was pretty dang tough. Definitely want to stick this out though. I'm looking forward to this afternoon's workout.

7/7/2009 8:45:50 AM

next

7/15/2009 2:48:51 AM