TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Well fucking DUH. Who in the hell is the head honcho right now in US govt?" |
a republican
who runs congress?
the democrats
honestly i'd expect both candidates to get something from the govt, why didnt obama?8/29/2008 9:32:17 PM |
tsavla All American 6787 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organization's PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families." |
8/29/2008 9:33:32 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
whoops i didnt read that part
still you'd think obama would get something 8/29/2008 9:34:21 PM |
zep All American 4169 Posts user info edit post |
McCain has 11 large financial donors while Obama has 6. Can't say I like the sound of any of that. 8/29/2008 9:36:05 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i thought obama was the first candidate ever to forgo that stuff and just take donations from people 8/29/2008 9:36:09 PM |
zep All American 4169 Posts user info edit post |
^,
read ^^^^
What those lists might tell you is that the donors feel like the respective candidate will do something favorable or won't do something unfavorable for their respective company. Taking McCain as the example, I'd say those donors think McCain will do nothing/little to hinder they way they operate which was what got us into this credit mess to begin with. Since they are also donating like a mofo to Obama too I'm thinking they are trying to get either candidate to be more open to a government bailout of their organizations.
[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 9:43 PM. Reason : .] 8/29/2008 9:37:15 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i thought obama was the first candidate ever to forgo that stuff and just take donations from people" |
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA thats funny]8/29/2008 9:38:20 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=btu&q=obama+donations+public+funding&btnG=Search
first couple of links? 8/29/2008 9:39:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
wasnt it this same thread where people were talking about how the internet was such a good source of information? lolz 8/29/2008 9:40:52 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
?? 8/29/2008 9:41:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
rofl
he rejects public spending...in favor of UNLIMITED private donations
[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 9:44 PM. Reason : .] 8/29/2008 9:42:30 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
seriously though...those articles talk about how he is the first candidate since that program started in the 70's to not do it...is that a different type of funding or something?
[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 9:44 PM. Reason : ^yeah....whats the prob with that?] 8/29/2008 9:44:11 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Public financing, which Mr. McCain has indicated he would accept, limits spending to $84.1 million in the general election. Mr. Obama expects he can raise three or four times that." |
8/29/2008 9:45:25 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
is that a bad thing? imo its a good thing for obama...i bet if mccain could raise that much he would too 8/29/2008 9:46:36 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
OK
BACK TO THE MILF 8/29/2008 9:48:06 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
but obama is for helping the poor...why does he need to raise a couple hundred million more than mccain has agreed to raise, and then spend it helping he poor campaigning against mccain
^TRUTH
[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 9:48 PM. Reason : holler atcha milf] 8/29/2008 9:48:44 PM |
zep All American 4169 Posts user info edit post |
^^, seriously
[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 9:49 PM. Reason : ^] 8/29/2008 9:48:48 PM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why does he need to raise a couple hundred million more than mccain has agreed to raise, and then spend it helping he poor campaigning against mccain" |
Maybe because he's trying to become president?8/29/2008 9:49:55 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^haha, thats about what i was gonna say...i was gonna say "cause elections cost money?" 8/29/2008 9:51:21 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
he needs 4x more money than mccain to do it? 8/29/2008 9:51:52 PM |
zep All American 4169 Posts user info edit post |
doesn't hurt 8/29/2008 9:52:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
i guess hope and change only go so far...you need 250 million bucks more than your opponent to get your point across
doesnt sound elitist at all...quarter of a billion more than your opponent when you're talking about how low class families are struggling...] 8/29/2008 9:53:15 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
honestly it sounds like you are kinda jealous or something, that obama can raise a lot more money than mccain could
[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 9:54 PM. Reason : ^lol, what do you suggest?? that obama tell supporters NOT to donate?] 8/29/2008 9:54:33 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
no they're just playing by different rules
it seems if obama really believed in what he said he'd save some of that money to actually go to poor people and not for commercials
but the important thing is that Sarah Palin is HOT
[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 9:55 PM. Reason : .] 8/29/2008 9:55:27 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty interesting read:
Quote : | "I mean that most sincerely and not at all condescending. Really. Sarah is the governor of Alaska and has an extremely high approval rating. Why? She’s ethical. She is sticking to her party’s platform and yet also obeying the law.
A look at Wikipedia informed me that she signed into law state benefits to same sex couples per a state supreme court ruling. Even though she opposes gay marriage. Instead of ranting about rogue judges and trying to shove changes to the Constitution down the publics throat she’s following the law (as currently interpreted by the relevant court) and still able to stick to her ethics.
I’m only bringing this up because I received an email…
Dear Fellow Alaskan, With just a few days left in the 25th Alaska Legislature, the final actions taken by lawmakers will have a major impact on Alaska and Alaskans. HB 111, a critical bill which would lower the Business License Fee, is currently stalled. The Alaska economy is blessed by people with an entrepreneurial spirit. Business leaders provide new ideas and develop innovative products and services. By investing in their businesses, small firm owners make a major contribution to our economy. The original version of HB111 that I proposed would have returned the business license fee, which was increased to $100 under the former administration, to $25. The fee increase has caused a hardship for those who are helping grow our economy, especially people who operate home-based and part-time businesses. The House Finance Committee amended the bill to set the fee at $50 and it sailed through the House because it makes good business sense. HB 111 is currently stalled in the Senate Finance Committee. I urge you to contact your senator TODAY and let him or her know that HB111 is good for Alaskans, who should not be penalized for stimulating economic growth.
Until next time, Governor Sarah Palin
I sure am one of those entrepreneurs. With the web stuff, djing, and bike shop stuff i’m kicking in sales tax to the city. And the Feds enjoy my increased income in taxes also.
It honestly stung a bit when the business license fee went from $50 to $200 for two years under the previous governor (who was also a Republican).
I’m not a member of any political party but she’s one more Conservative that will have my vote next time around." |
8/29/2008 9:56:34 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i was under the impression a lot of his money was in like 5 dollar increments from poor people anyways 8/29/2008 9:56:48 PM |
zep All American 4169 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^, Because he's going to use it to dine on endangered species internal organs and foie gras. AMIRITE?
[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 9:57 PM. Reason : fuck ^] 8/29/2008 9:57:29 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "she signed into law state benefits to same sex couples...Even though she opposes gay marriage" |
there goes one liberal talking point
^no but he sure as hell isnt using it to help the people his party supposedly want to help
when will obama supporters realize that just like all other presidential candidates, they are money and power hungry whores (including mccain)
[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 10:00 PM. Reason : .]8/29/2008 9:58:35 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
8/29/2008 10:00:18 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
HOLLA 8/29/2008 10:00:45 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
LOL 8/29/2008 10:01:12 PM |
zep All American 4169 Posts user info edit post |
nice shop.
you can tell it's fake cause she's got her hair down. 8/29/2008 10:01:36 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
hahah 8/29/2008 10:01:57 PM |
zep All American 4169 Posts user info edit post |
lets take another look at the family
8/29/2008 10:02:53 PM |
NCstate08 Veteran 182 Posts user info edit post |
Interview special with her on right now on CNBC 8/29/2008 10:02:55 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
is this actually the same person? facial structure seems different or shopped
8/29/2008 10:04:00 PM |
zep All American 4169 Posts user info edit post |
They just had a video of her on CNN where she was shooting an AR-15. I got a woody. 8/29/2008 10:05:48 PM |
Hillsborough New Recruit 18 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "She admits that she used marijuana at a time when the state had legalize it but She says that she did not like it. " |
Yeah right.8/29/2008 10:06:12 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
at least she admits that she inhaled, unlike some people 8/29/2008 10:07:20 PM |
Hillsborough New Recruit 18 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5zsownDK2A
[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 10:16 PM. Reason : .] 8/29/2008 10:16:00 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
8/29/2008 10:16:20 PM |
zep All American 4169 Posts user info edit post |
I'd give her some good experience. 8/29/2008 10:17:18 PM |
ke2urhoe48 Veteran 243 Posts user info edit post |
I'de hit it. 8/29/2008 10:42:07 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
This is the Overstock.com woman, Sabine Ehrenfeld
[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 10:50 PM. Reason : .]
8/29/2008 10:48:37 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
i'd overstock her 8/29/2008 11:23:35 PM |
CharlesHF All American 5543 Posts user info edit post |
Ron Paul:
Quote : | "US Army $76,355 US Navy $58,226 Google Inc $55,901 US Air Force $55,255 Microsoft Corp $48,573 US Postal Service $26,791 Lockheed Martin $23,725 Boeing Co $23,388 Verizon Communications $19,944 Cisco Systems $19,839 Hewlett-Packard $18,317 US Dept of Defense $17,998 General Dynamics $17,755 AT&T Inc $17,596 Northrop Grumman $16,907 Apple Inc $16,103 Intel Corp $15,659 IBM Corp $15,180 Raytheon Co $15,129 General Electric $14,798" |
8/29/2008 11:30:57 PM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
Let's see she's been governor for less then 2 years...was mayor of a town of less than 6,000 folks...use to run a sporting goods company and also ran a trucking company......and McCain seriously..SERIOUSLY thinks that 'Palin' will win over the bulk of female women supporters based on Palin's ability to change Washington??
A third of the women in my family were INSANELY staunch supporters of Hillary, and I can tell you that the 7 women in my family upon looking at Palin's credentials called each other on the phone, emailed, etc...and started laughing to each other hysterically. A few of them even took it as a slap in the face, b/c they figured McCain thought b/c they share ovaries that Hillary supporters would just jump on Palin's bandwagon. Who the hell is running McCain's campaign??
Seriously!!?? 8/29/2008 11:45:33 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ are there a bunch of bull dykes in your family? 8/29/2008 11:46:48 PM |
zep All American 4169 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, but she's fucking hot. What do they have to say about that huh? 8/29/2008 11:47:23 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
hahah 8/29/2008 11:47:56 PM |