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AndyMac
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Yeah that's normal.

2/6/2010 6:31:42 PM

wilso
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yeah, i think you need pretty high paragon or renegade to get everyone loyal. i went into the suicide mission with everyone loyal but jack.

2/6/2010 7:02:21 PM

ncWOLFsu
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yeah i went full paragon and was able to have everyone loyal

going full renegade now and will try the same.

2/6/2010 7:12:47 PM

umbrellaman
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Good lord I would jerk it to Miranda.

2/6/2010 7:30:57 PM

Byrn Stuff
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^

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What's stopping you?

2/6/2010 7:32:27 PM

umbrellaman
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Who says I'm being stopped?

2/6/2010 7:36:55 PM

ThePeter
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"Just finished all the loyalty missions. Jack and Miranda got in a fight and I took Jack's side. Now Miranda is not loyal anymore despite doing her loyalty mission. That's normal right?"


I did the same thing but didn't check to see what happened to Miranda. Although, I did go talk to her right after and she wouldn't have any of it since my paragon/renegade was too low. Talked to some more people around the ship and went full Champion with my level up points to up my paragon, and tried talking to her again and opened up the paragon option. She was loyal to me after that.

2/6/2010 8:32:46 PM

Byrn Stuff
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I'm curious about those of you who are saying that your paragon/renegade are too low. Is this because you haven't done enough side missions or what? What's keeping your moral status so low.

Note: I've only done three of the loyal missions so far, so I've got a ways to go before I get to this point.

2/6/2010 8:42:07 PM

BEU
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I managed to save every single person......

I think someone dying would have been better.

If you don't go immediately through the gate when you are able chambers dies.

2/6/2010 9:32:30 PM

wilso
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i lost Jack, but i didn't do her loyalty mission, and i didn't really care. i had samara do my biotics.

2/6/2010 9:38:20 PM

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I just finished ME 1 with renegade alignment, lvl 47 I think. If I play back through on the same character and choose Paragon will the Paragon alignment be the one that is imported into ME 2? And is there anyway to change the class without restarting completely, or should I do that anyway if I want to play both as a new class and alignment?

2/6/2010 10:39:37 PM

Byrn Stuff
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^I believe you get choose which to import. You can also realign yourself in the new game if that's what you're asking. Importing a renegade doesn't require you to play a renegade.

2/6/2010 11:51:32 PM

BEU
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The only thing that is carried over from ME1 is the choices you made and the characters looks. You can change everything about your character once its imported into ME2 accept the choices made in ME1.

2/7/2010 8:23:42 AM

Taikimoto
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Yeah thats what Im asking. If I play through on the same character but choose Paragon instead, do the choices made from my 2nd playthrough get carried over or can I choose the ones from my first as well?

2/7/2010 9:06:30 AM

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2/7/2010 9:26:50 AM

BEU
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I have no idea.

I would assume it would go off the most recent saved games. So it should go with the most recent decisions.

Remember, it doesn't give a damn whether you are paragon or renegade. It matters what choices you make in the main parts of the game.

I think you could manage to be renegade and still do "paragon" choices in the main decisions.

[Edited on February 7, 2010 at 9:32 AM. Reason : fhg]

2/7/2010 9:27:13 AM

TreeTwista10
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I imported my Level 47 character and it seems like I have had both Paragon and Renegade options in a shitload of conversations. Honestly I've been trying to do about half Renegade, half Paragon, depending on the expected ramifications. I also will hit LT or RT any time it pops up during a convo.

I'm interested to eventually start a new character from scratch and see the differences, but it looks like there are some solid advantages to importing a ME1 character.

2/7/2010 3:35:34 PM

TreeTwista10
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must...return...to...normandy...and...save...game...so...i...dont...miss...super...bowl

2/7/2010 5:18:42 PM

neodata686
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you can save it anywhere you know.

2/7/2010 6:38:44 PM

Azaka
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Not always

2/7/2010 7:01:06 PM

neodata686
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^the only time you can't save it is when there's an enemy nearby.

2/7/2010 7:01:39 PM

wilso
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^which is quite often. you also can't save during some special missions.

2/7/2010 7:10:58 PM

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I beat the game the first time though with the death of Grunt and Mordin. Played the last mission again and managed to keep everyone alive.

I wonder if they'll do level bonuses again with the import to ME3. If so, maybe I should play through again with my soldier. Otherwise, I may try to play through again with a biotic-heavy class, going full renegade.

2/7/2010 8:07:58 PM

TreeTwista10
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I know you can save it anywhere but I like to kind of get to a stopping point instead of saving in the middle of a city or something

2/7/2010 10:22:18 PM

neodata686
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you be trippin man. go saints!!

2/7/2010 10:48:25 PM

AndyMac
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I actually like to save while on a planet instead of on the normandy, so I can remember what I was doing while looking at a save file, instead of seeing a whole list of "Normandy SR-2"

2/7/2010 10:50:46 PM

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2/8/2010 12:16:52 AM

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What heavy weapon do you people use? I'm usually carrying the missle launcher since it is so general purpose, but I've used the (preorder) Blackhole gun and just unlocked the M-920 Cain. Thing is bad ass but the ammo situation is gay. Blackhole gun is awesome but doesn't do shit against big targets

2/8/2010 1:11:17 PM

RedGuard
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I stick with the black hole gun. While the M-920 Cain has a certain entertainment value, I haven't figured out a good way to integrate it into a firefight. I keep blowing myself up with the gun: usually I take a lot of hits as I prepare to fire, and then the explosion takes out that last, crucial bit of health.

2/8/2010 3:35:17 PM

ThePeter
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Thing with the BhG is that it doesn't do jack against big targets, and when I need to bust out the heavy weapon I'm in a live or death situation with some boss or heavy mech. Other than that it's my favorite weapon for taking out smaller crowds, other than the Cain of course

2/8/2010 3:42:00 PM

Boone
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I use the collector beam weapon. It's great against shields, and that's where my character and my preferred runnin' crew is weak.

2/8/2010 3:52:10 PM

TreeTwista10
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^I just got that on my last mission...what kind of ammo does it take / how do you get more?

2/8/2010 4:04:03 PM

wilso
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I, too, use the Collectors' Beam Weapon. I used it to take out the Thresher Maw.

2/8/2010 4:04:38 PM

AndyMac
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^^ All heavy weapons use the same ammo.

Power cells boxes.

2/8/2010 4:17:33 PM

TreeTwista10
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ah ok gotcha

2/8/2010 4:18:16 PM

ThePeter
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Yeah, the power cell ammo is scaled. If you're carrying, say, the particle beam, an ammo box will give you like 200 units of ammo, whereas if you're carrying the Blackhole gun it'll give you about 2 units.

The particle beam just doesn't have that instant BOOM/Fire and Forget effect I want . You also gotta stay in the line of fire for a long time with it, although that is true with any gun. Maybe I'll try it out some more

2/8/2010 4:28:34 PM

TreeTwista10
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yeah aiming and using it reminded me a little of the hammer of dawn from Gears of War

but when I got it I immediately had to fight some of those glowing guys who are like "i'm assuming complete control" and it cut through their shield/defense nicely

[Edited on February 8, 2010 at 4:33 PM. Reason : .........................]

2/8/2010 4:33:25 PM

BEU
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The ice gun can do the most damage the fastest.

It fires as fast as you can click. You can dump all your ammo in 5-7 seconds and almost kill any boss providing you hit the thing

2/8/2010 5:34:40 PM

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Quote :
"I, too, use the Collectors' Beam Weapon"


I've had no trouble taking out anyone with this (I'm not really far in the game, though, just rocking out loyalty missions at this point).

2/8/2010 5:47:30 PM

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I've only used the Cain against heavy mechs. I took out three at once one time, it was fucking fantastic. Otherwise, I've just been using the Collector particle beam, used it for the thresher maw and the end boss.

2/8/2010 8:24:38 PM

AndyMac
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DLC coming tomorrow. New armor and shotgun.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/1074772/1

2/8/2010 11:10:58 PM

JCE2011
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Thank god they took out the motherfucking mako

2/8/2010 11:52:41 PM

DoeoJ
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ha went to the final resting place of the normandy sr-1 and find the mako stuck up on some rocks. which is fitting because thats where you spent 80% of last game.

2/9/2010 10:51:40 AM

Boone
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I'm glad there's no more mountain-climbing in the Mako, but I miss the exploration aspect.

The mineral... mini-game (although it's too tedious to even be called a mini-game) is awful.

2/9/2010 11:13:22 AM

TreeTwista10
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It is awful, but its not AS bad when you upgrade your scanning speed and upgrade your probe capacity from 15 to 30

2/9/2010 11:42:49 AM

TreeTwista10
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double

[Edited on February 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM. Reason : post]

2/9/2010 11:42:49 AM

jbtilley
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^^^ If you got the PC version:

http://www.cheatengine.org/

Just hack yourself some resources. Over and done in less than 5 minutes.

2/9/2010 12:01:03 PM

AndyMac
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So anyone used the new weapon and armor yet?

I'm a fan, especially of the shotgun, even though the fire rate is painfully slow. It's deadly to enemies with no defenses even at medium range, and can blast through full armor at close range.

2/9/2010 2:18:48 PM

rufus
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Quote :
"The mineral... mini-game (although it's too tedious to even be called a mini-game) is awful."


it really annoyed me too until i figured out that i could just tap the scan button and cover the planets like 10x faster than if you just hold it down and go methodically. now it's just kind of annoying.

2/9/2010 3:55:19 PM

TreeTwista10
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Yeah holding down LT the whole time is for suckers!

I generally scan a planet at least a few times although if it starts off as being mineral Rich and I take it down to Poor, I won't necessarily take all the time needed to change the status to Depleted

2/9/2010 4:00:26 PM

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