Especially when their team gets in the way of my question ^^^.

Okay trying to decide what to do with Michael Crabtree. Here is my lineup -

WR - Colston
WR - Housh
RB - Gore
RB - Willie Parker
W/T - Ochocinco
W/R - Ted Ginn Jr.
BN - Knowshon Moreno, Donald Brown, Jerious Norwood, Chris Henry (WR), James Davis, Crabtree

I would rather try and pick up a potential RB rather then hold on to Crabtree and hope he signs/plays - here is who is available... who do you recommend.

Shonn Green - NYJ
Glenn Coffee - SF (Would be good to handcuff Gore, but I'm not the biggest fan of handcuffs)
Ladell Betts - Wash
Mewelde Moore - Pitt
Mike Bell - NO (I could play him week 1 as Pierre is apparently not going to get much time, might be a better play then Ted Ginn Jr)
BenJarvus Green-Ellis - NE

And so on... if there is anyone not on that list who you recommend let me know.

Strongly considering Mike Bell as the top choice, at least for this week. I'm not sure about playing Ted Ginn Jr or FWP (Tennessee scares me).

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 10:53 AM. Reason : aaa]

9/9/2009 10:52:47 AM

^^^^i don't understand leagues that put that much emphasis on TDs. a WR has a great game with 150 yards...but is outscored by mike vrabel who goes in and catches a 1 yard touchdown after the WR has done all the work.

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 10:55 AM. Reason : 25 yards for rushing/receiving point and 6 points for TD]

9/9/2009 10:54:25 AM

Should I start Antonio Bryant, Tory Holt, or Donnie Avery this week?

9/9/2009 11:33:11 AM

people are more likely to give you informed answers if you state who your players are playing against

9/9/2009 12:43:45 PM

Quote :

"i don't understand leagues that put that much emphasis on TDs. a WR has a great game with 150 yards...but is outscored by mike vrabel who goes in and catches a 1 yard touchdown after the WR has done all the work."

long answer: i agree, but in my leagues its usually 10 yards per point receiving, or 15 yards per point receiving if its PPR...in which case a WR who got 150 yards, would either have 15 points non-PPR, or say maybe 17 points PPR (assuming 7 catches)

short answer: its football, touchdowns (scores) are what matters most, outscoring your opponent, not outgaining them in yards

9/9/2009 12:47:55 PM

^well of course scoring TDs is what wins games and i agree they should be valued...but if chris johnson rushes 75 yards down the field and gets tackled on the one and lendale white punches it in from 1 yard out...white would get 6 points and johnson 3 according to the structure in question. and that, in my opinion, is stupid.

i play the same structure you mentioned and think it is fair...its the 25 yards per point, non PPR that gets me.

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 1:29 PM. Reason : ]

9/9/2009 1:27:21 PM

I agree. The structure is stupid.

That's that specific leagues fault though.

The biggest mistake that owners make in Fantasy Football is not having a good understanding of what the scoring system is and how it impacts player rankings.

If that was your scoring system, you move players like LenDale White up the board, and players like Chris Johnson would come down a bit.

At the end of the day, it's the owner's fault if he doesn't draft based on the league rules.

9/9/2009 1:35:41 PM

Pick one:

Vernon Davis @ Ari
Brent Celek @ Car
Jermichael Finley vs. Chi

9/9/2009 1:41:24 PM

Celek....all day.

No questions asked.

9/9/2009 1:44:08 PM

I'd definitely rank Finley 2nd in that list...Rodgers seems to love him

9/9/2009 1:50:20 PM

Celek is the easy answer to that one. He's a relative unknown last year, but McNabb loves the TE, and Celek is practically the only pass-catching TE the Eagles have.

^way up....drop Crabtree. He's not gonna sign, and even if he does, he'll likely not produce.
Get some RB depth guy with potential like Mike Bell, James Davis, Peyton Hillis, etc.

Mike Bell this week is easy points versus the Lions.

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 2:09 PM. Reason : ]

9/9/2009 2:08:58 PM

I have three teams but this is the only team I am concerned with. I think my bench receiver core is pretty weak. What do you guys think?



QB
Kurt Warner
(Ari - QB)

WR
T.J. Houshmandzadeh
(Sea - WR)

WR
Roy Williams
(Dal - WR)

RB
LaDainian Tomlinson
(SD - RB)

TE
John Carlson
(Sea - TE)

W/R
Steve Slaton
(Hou - RB)

BN
Kevin Smith
(Det - RB)

BN
Devin Hester
(Chi - WR)

BN
Matt Hasselbeck
(Sea - QB)

BN
Ted Ginn Jr.
(Mia - WR)

BN
LeSean McCoy
(Phi - RB)

BN
Rashard Mendenhall
(Pit - RB)

BN
Darrius Heyward-Bey
(Oak - WR)

Neil Rackers
(Ari - K)


(NYJ - DEF)

However, I do think Heyward-Bey will have a good year for some reason.


Some decent receivers still available in my league are:

Devery Henderson
Nate Washington
Jeremy Maclin
Randle El
Josh Morgan
Miles Austin
Chansi Stuckey
Josh Cribbs


[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 2:17 PM. Reason : ..]

9/9/2009 2:11:37 PM

People need to answer the question the person above them posted before posting new shit. This thread is getting crazy.

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM. Reason : V Jackson...he is splitting with Rhodes but will get a TD I think. Bell splits with Bush]

9/9/2009 2:18:58 PM

Fred Jackson vs NE or Mike Bell vs DET

standard scoring

9/9/2009 2:20:03 PM

Jackson^

I have three teams but this is the only team I am concerned with. I think my bench receiver core is pretty weak. What do you guys think?

QB
Kurt Warner
(Ari - QB)

WR
T.J. Houshmandzadeh
(Sea - WR)

WR
Roy Williams
(Dal - WR)

RB
LaDainian Tomlinson
(SD - RB)

TE
John Carlson
(Sea - TE)

W/R
Steve Slaton
(Hou - RB)

BN
Kevin Smith
(Det - RB)

BN
Devin Hester
(Chi - WR)

BN
Matt Hasselbeck
(Sea - QB)

BN
Ted Ginn Jr.
(Mia - WR)

BN
LeSean McCoy
(Phi - RB)

BN
Rashard Mendenhall
(Pit - RB)

BN
Darrius Heyward-Bey
(Oak - WR)

Neil Rackers
(Ari - K)


(NYJ - DEF)

However, I do think Heyward-Bey will have a good year for some reason.


Some decent receivers still available in my league are:

Devery Henderson
Nate Washington
Jeremy Maclin
Randle El
Josh Morgan
Miles Austin
Chansi Stuckey
Josh Cribbs

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 2:26 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 2:26 PM. Reason : .]

9/9/2009 2:26:27 PM

I would go with Mike Bell personally. Detroit is still terrible, the Saints will run up the score and will be running the ball much of the game. I could easily see Bell and Bush splitting carries until the score gets out of hand and then Bush will get benched to keep him healthy while Bell carries the main load in garbage time.

^I would stick with what you got, lots of upside with Hester, Bey and Ginn

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 2:30 PM. Reason : adsf]

9/9/2009 2:29:22 PM

I'd like to play them both but I dont want to get too cute and bench one of my studs in week 1

9/9/2009 2:31:27 PM

who else do you have?

didnt Jackson get a little banged up this preseason?

9/9/2009 2:33:32 PM

NE is starting 6 new defenders this year and Fred Jackson won't be splitting any carriers. Plus they haven't said for sure if Thomas isn't going to play yet.

From Yahoo Sports:

Quote :

"RB Fred Jackson will assume an even bigger role in the absence of starter Marshawn Lynch, who will serve a three-game suspension to start the season. That's because the team cut veteran free agent Dominic Rhodes, who would've shared the load."

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 2:38 PM. Reason : .]

9/9/2009 2:38:08 PM

SLAVE--->

BELL. If Pierre Thomas doesn't play that is. Last year week 16 Saints scored 4 rushing TDs by 4 different RBs, Bell being one. That was with Thomas healthy and Deuce on the team.

9/9/2009 2:38:53 PM

Would you sit one of Portis (NYG) or Grant CHI) to play Bell Or Jackson ?

Portis has done nothing against the Giants recently and Grant might have been a fluke

Like I said, I'm worried about being too cute here

9/9/2009 2:55:15 PM

^ I think I'd bench Grant. I just have a feeling the GB/CHI game is going to be a shootout in the air. The Jackson and Bell matchups seem too good to pass up... you could always try and trade one of those guys away, everyone is expecting big things from them this week.

9/9/2009 3:13:47 PM

Guess this needs to be said...

As others have mentioned let's try to answer each others questions before moving forward with your own. It's selfish and unfair to think that you should keep reposting your Question without helping others.

It needs to stop in order to make this thread successful.

Also, let's try to curtail the posting of entire teams. It's confusing, it takes up too much space and makes scrolling up for answers or questions a pain in the ass.

Like a few people have said, this thread is for sit/start advice, Injury Updates, and anything else that would be relevant to EVERYONE playing fantasy football.

If you want me to address a specific question, feel free to PM me. I'm happy to help as soon as I can get to it.

Thanks.

- The Guru

9/9/2009 3:15:41 PM

SLAVE ->

Yeah don't overthink it. Bell could do well because Lions suck ass. Otherwise stick to real starters. Fred Jack definitely not.

9/9/2009 3:19:12 PM

I would also suggest playing Bell over Jackson if Pierre Thomas doesnt play.

here's why:

From a simplistic standpoint, the Saints are going to murder the Lions, and Bell will get the goal line carries, plus the carries in the second half to grind out the game. Reggie Bush is not a "wear down the defense with between the tackles" kind of runner and the Saints will pull Reggie to rest if they get up big. Great chance for Bell to finish with 100 combined yards and 2 TD's IF and I repeat IF Thomas doesn't play.

You also have to think that Jackson and those hapless Bills will be throwing almost every down outside of the 1st quarter to keep up with a Patriots team that has a point to prove this year.

No Thomas, play Bell. Thomas playing, put in Jackson and hope for a 1st quarter score.

___________________________________________________________________________________

As for Grant vs. Portis - I am leaning in Grant's way. The Packers want to run him more this year, he's finally healthy and they are at home.

Portis on the other hand, looks to be in a dominant time share, where he will get the Lion's share of the carries, but will still be in a 65/35 split with Betts and Zorn isn't sold on giving him the goal line carries.

I would start Grant with confidence. When in doubt, always take the RB on the better offense.

- The Guru

9/9/2009 3:27:50 PM

man i have answered the above question each time I posted

I will continue to post my question until it gets answered (even if it has my entire team)

Panthro, you better not be talking to me about this. I, above all people, have complained about the "not answering the above post" longer than anyone. People are going to do it no matter what and you know that. This hasn't changed in years.That's bullshit if your bold comment is targeted at me. I don't care if I posted my entire team, my question pertained to it.

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 3:30 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 3:37 PM. Reason : .]

9/9/2009 3:29:44 PM

Quote :

"Vernon Davis @ Ari Brent Celek @ Car Jermichael Finley vs. Chi"

Why do you carry 3 TEs?

9/9/2009 3:47:39 PM

Hey Volcom, don't get your panties in a wad.

that post was directed at everyone. I don't look at usernames to determine answers or criticism. It was an observation and advice for everyone.

You've always made solid contributions to this thread. I know it will stay the same this year.

SO QUIT YER FUCKIN' CRYIN'

As for your question....

Yeah, your team's WR bench is kinda weak, but you only start 2 WR's, one RB and a flex. Interesting.

As for your bench, at this point (before any games have started) I would be compelled to drop Heyward-Bey and pick up Stuckey, who is showing some serious promise in the preseason.

Just my two cents.

9/9/2009 3:50:18 PM

for real yall if you must post your entire team, please single space the fuck out of it

like, put the player's name, position, team, opponent, etc ALL ON ONE LINE

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 3:53 PM. Reason : .]

9/9/2009 3:53:22 PM

aight I can do that



why no love for Heyward-Bey

I heard he had a good camp and a decent preseason and should be the top receiver on the Raiders

yes I know the Raiders will probably suck but still, he should get some decent points I would think...

9/9/2009 3:58:12 PM

Rookie WR rarely work out, and even then it's on a pass-heavy offensive team that is good.

A Raiders rookie WR.....

9/9/2009 4:04:43 PM

yeah I'm thinking 600 and 6 is a best case scenario

400 and 4 is more likely

9/9/2009 4:07:57 PM

pick 2

frank gore (SF) vs. Ari
chris johnson (Ten) vs. Pit
beanie wells (Ari) vs. SF

9/9/2009 4:10:21 PM

you gotta go Gore and Johnson, simply because they will get the carries


We arent even sure if Wells is going to split carries yet with Hightower, even if they do, Arizona should still be pass happy



Would you take Hakeem Nicks over Heyward-Bey?

9/9/2009 4:12:41 PM

^^agreed. Can't bench 1st and 2nd round picks in week one for an unproven, injury prone RB on a pass first team.

^ I would take anyone over a Raiders player not named McFadden, but Nicks is a #3/#4 WR on the Giants depth chart.

Quote :

"The New York Daily News reports that Hakeem Nicks has moved up to fourth on the Giants depth chart and is seriously challenging Mario Manningham for the No. 3 spot. The rookie finished off the preseason in strong fashion and it appears the coaching staff has taken notice. There's a good chance that this first-round pick is starting by the end of the season. Currently, the starting jobs are held by Domenik Hixon and Steve Smith."

9/9/2009 4:23:36 PM

ok let me phrase this the right way for yalls opinion (current picks bolded):

Non-PPR League, flex spot, pick 1
Eddie Royal (@ CIN)
Jamal Lewis (v MIN)
Felix Jones (@ TAM)
Devin Hester (@ GB)

PPR league, 2nd RB and flex spot, pick 2 total
Lendale White (@ PIT)
Anthony Gonzalez (v JAC)
Felix Jones (@ TAM)
Sammy Morris (v BUF)
Desean Jackson (@ CAR)

Am I being too tentative about Felix?

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 4:48 PM. Reason : .]

9/9/2009 4:46:45 PM

No, I like Royal at Cinci.

While Kyle Orton has struggled, I think they will use the pass attack to prove that they didn't make a mistake. And Royal is set for a breakout year....as a rookie last year he posted decent #'s, this year I see him being the reliable threat at WR for Denver now that Marshall is back to take away coverages.

For the second team, it's a tougher call. Gonzalez is a sure start at the flex I think....White may vulture a TD or two...but that's his only value and against the Pit D that'll be tough. Felix Jones might not get the ball much, but he's a playmaker and could take one to the house. However, Felix Jones will be better as the year goes on....maybe not the first week.

I'd say it's 50/50 between those two with a lean towards lendale getting 1 TD.

9/9/2009 4:58:13 PM

Twista, I would play that the exact same way.

Depending on match-ups, I wouldn't hesitate to play Jackson or Jones.

Morris could be downright worthless though, with the Pat's announcing that Fred Taylor is the starting RB, Faulk is the 3rd down back, Maroney is the backup, and Morris could be limited to just goal line carries (when they aren't throwing to random Line Backers)

Quote :

"Patriots beat writer Mike Reiss of the Boston Globe reports that Fred Taylor will be the team's starting running back. Taylor has had a fine preseason, and may have earned the starting spot in New England, but in the fantasy world that means very little. The Pats will still spread the ball around to all four backs, ultimately limiting everyone's value. Taylor will see some touches, but will likely get less than Kevin Faulk, who is the best receiver of the quartet."

9/9/2009 5:05:16 PM

Quote :

"Am I being too tentative about Felix?"

I might lean towards Jones over Royal, Orton has that dislocated finger. B. Marshall should also take a good bit of targets away. I think Jones will get more touches then most think. I see them being up big on the Buc's who dont have a QB and then turning to a ground game in the second half. He also has the ability to burst one with every touch.

In the second Gonzalez i think is solid. Maybe Jones again over White, or even D. Jackson..Panthers secondary is a joke at the moment and I dont see the front 4 getting pressure on McNabb giving him time to hit his targets.

9/9/2009 5:15:05 PM

Non-PPR League, WR2, pick 1
Antonio Bryant (Dallas)
Tory Holt (@IND)
Donnie Avery (@SEA)

I'm weak at WR. My WR1 is Roddy White and my WR3 is Santana Moss. Bryant was going to be my WR2, but he's just coming back from an injury.

9/9/2009 5:18:25 PM

I kinda like donnie avery, but bryant would be right up there too.


In the league I posted my roster for on the last page, should I pick up Mike Bell and start him alongside McFadden since he's playing the Lions? My alternative (and what I am currently planning to do) is starting Willie Parker against a tough (albeit less tough w/out Haynesworth) Titans defense.

9/9/2009 6:17:04 PM

Which to start:

Wes Welker (BUF) or Lance Moore (DET) ?

9/9/2009 7:21:49 PM

i would always start welker no matter what. he's good for either a lot of yards or a couple scores in most games

9/9/2009 7:27:21 PM

ok- I'm having trouble with 2 decisions in one of my leagues:


1st is at QB: Matt Ryan (against Miami) or Eli (against Washington)- both are home games, and I'm 50/50... well, more like 60/40 leaning towards Ryan

2nd is at WR: Derek Mason (against KC) or Devin Hester (@GB)... I'm already starting Roddy White and Donald Driver as my other two

9/9/2009 8:24:20 PM

Alright, I'm drafting in 45 minutes and I'm picking 4th. Standard scoring league.

Who should I pick, if ADP, Turner and Forte go 1-2-3 as expected? How about if MJD goes 3rd?

I kinda like Steven Jackson and DeAngelo Williams, not sure who I like more though. Give me a compelling argument between the 2, or whether I should just go with whoever is left between MJD and Forte.

9/9/2009 9:17:16 PM

^^I'd go Forte. There's just something about MJD I don't care much for. But that's just my opinion

9/9/2009 9:57:58 PM

My top two RBs are MJD and Gore. I have Sproles and L. White on the bench. Reports seem like MJD is good to go for this weekend. Is that a decent bet or should I consider Sproles vs Oakland on the safe side?

9/9/2009 10:25:39 PM

Who should I start? Roethlisberger vs ten. or Schaub vs. nyj?

9/9/2009 10:59:26 PM

I think Big Ben

9/9/2009 11:14:39 PM

Biofreak70 I would go Ryan and Hester. Eli scares me this year without proven wideouts and Washington's D wasn't bad. Ryan is going to connect with Roddy White no matter what. Hester finally has a QB I expect good things out of him.

^^Schaub is way better when healthy. Big Ben is facing Tennessee. This should be a no brainer.

So what do you all think of Bush this week IF Thomas doesn't play? Should he start in all PPR leagues? What about him over a say Cedric Benson or Steve Slaton. Is he worth this gamble against the Lions?

[Edited on September 10, 2009 at 1:31 AM. Reason : Bush ]

9/10/2009 1:28:11 AM