Makes me long for the Gavin Grant/Ben McCauley days.

12/1/2010 8:02:27 PM

Quote :

"I hope we score before the half is over."

Also pissed at the announcers for saying "any chance of winning, they have to score." THERE'S A WHOLE-NOTHER HALF ASSHOLE.

12/1/2010 8:02:29 PM

More than doubled up at halftime we may as well be a D3 team except they probably wouldn't be doing this badly

12/1/2010 8:02:39 PM

We were up tempo until Georgetown. Sidney needs to let them loose. They will learn more being selfish and fucking up. Playing at a snails pace and forcing shots will teach absolutely fucking nothing.

12/1/2010 8:02:48 PM

nc state can always go down - just watch the spectacle happen before your eyes in the 2nd half

12/1/2010 8:02:48 PM

what's the official time on that scoring drought

12/1/2010 8:03:00 PM

I actually think I am on the fire Lowe wagon now.

12/1/2010 8:03:01 PM

lol

12/1/2010 8:03:01 PM

on the bright side, my decision to not buy season tickets is looking smarter and smarter...

12/1/2010 8:03:11 PM

how many times has javi thrown a pass where our players just watch it. The last one, V just watched it. Didn't block out expecting he shot it, and didn't go after the ball.

12/1/2010 8:03:29 PM

I've always been in big support of Sidney, but that one half made me seriously wonder who Debbie Yow has on her list of replacements. That was absolutely terrible. I don't care that we don't have Tracy, we have no sense of any kind of gameplan.

12/1/2010 8:03:40 PM

you can tell Lowe prepared them for this game.

12/1/2010 8:03:43 PM

Quote :

"We were up tempo until Georgetown. Sidney needs to let them loose. They will learn more being selfish and fucking up. Playing at a snails pace and forcing shots will teach absolutely fucking nothing."

yeah....we are actually playing teams with a heartbeat now. No more ECU, George Mason bullcrap

12/1/2010 8:03:50 PM

you know, I expected us to get killed in this game

but that first half performance was just pathetic

Is there anything Sidney Lowe teams do well?

[Edited on December 1, 2010 at 8:04 PM. Reason : turning the ball over doesnt count]

12/1/2010 8:03:51 PM

I can't watch this. I've seen middle schoolers play better.

12/1/2010 8:03:58 PM

fuck this shit. im not even going to watch the second half

12/1/2010 8:04:15 PM

Panic mode whenever they're down and it devolves into whoever's holding the ball trying to play one on five and put the team on their back when nobody is talented enough for that

12/1/2010 8:04:23 PM

I just had major deja vu reading this thread, my deja vu ends with us coming back to win

12/1/2010 8:04:23 PM

Vandy needs to be cut - we are better if we play down a man.

12/1/2010 8:04:28 PM

I liked Leslie's pass that hit the bottom of the backboard. That's a new one.

12/1/2010 8:04:33 PM

I've always been in big support of Sidney, but that one half made me seriously wonder who Debbie Yow has on her list of replacements. That was absolutely terrible. I don't care that we don't have Tracy, we have no sense of any kind of gameplan.

12/1/2010 8:04:59 PM

I thought we played decent defense the first 7 or so minutes of the game. Since then we've been atrocious on both sides of the ball. Just playing awful. Unforced turnovers. Too many turnovers. Allowing too many offensive rebounds for Wisconsin. It seems like we're not even getting off a shot on half of our possessions. It's not pretty.

[Edited on December 1, 2010 at 8:06 PM. Reason : ]

12/1/2010 8:05:13 PM

guys its ok

we're just young

12/1/2010 8:05:34 PM

what's so annoying is that there were periods of time where they were actually playing defense, but just let it collapse just in time to give Wisconsin an opening.

12/1/2010 8:05:36 PM

People just need to accept Lowe is not the answer - it is just a matter of time before he is fired...you think by now he would of instilled some sort of coaching into just ONE of the teams he has had...

12/1/2010 8:05:43 PM

I'm not going to even read,i'm sure tww is in meltdown mode.... because that was just terrible.

Welcome to the NCAA freshmen. We need Tracy soooo bad. I didn't think it'd hurt us this bad, but it's hurting pretty bad. I'm still hoping his absence now will make us a better team later.

[Edited on December 1, 2010 at 8:07 PM. Reason : ^ hey, look, Ohboyeeeee got another $5 of spending money!]

12/1/2010 8:05:53 PM

Quote :

"I liked Leslie's pass that hit the bottom of the backboard. That's a new one."

Haven't you played NBA Street? Throwing it off the backboard = more style points.

12/1/2010 8:06:26 PM

Fucking huge contract for Rick Barnes imo. Do what Fowler didn't. Barnes would've been heard if Fowler weren't such a retard.

12/1/2010 8:06:36 PM

Quote :

"I'm still hoping his absence now will make us a better team later."

The danger is that it is a very down ACC this year. If we only win 8 games, and possibly even 9, while losing to Georgetown, Wiscy, Arizona and Syracuse we are going to need AT LEAST 9 and possibly 10 wins to make it...

[Edited on December 1, 2010 at 8:07 PM. Reason : ^ fuck him... he isn't even a great coach and he's old now.]

12/1/2010 8:06:47 PM

how many halftime adjustments do you think we'll make tonight?

I'm guessing 1, Lowe will start Harrow instead of Javi in the second half. The game will get more and more out of hand, our freshmen will question their commitments and the wolf web will implode

but thats just a guess

12/1/2010 8:06:54 PM

Quote :

"People just need to accept Lowe is not the answer - it is just a matter of time before he is fired...you think by now he would of instilled some sort of coaching into just ONE of the teams he has had..."

i think everyone understands your opinion on lowe after the first 153259385938593 times you wrote it, but thanks for letting everyone know again

12/1/2010 8:06:57 PM

this is an incredibly poorly coached team

12/1/2010 8:07:10 PM

My favorite part of the half was the two unnecessary behind the back passes.

Followed by the one Leslie thew off the backboard.

12/1/2010 8:07:26 PM

Quote :

"Also pissed at the announcers for saying "any chance of winning, they have to score.""

well, to be fair, they are kinda right. in order to win you do have to score more points than the other team, and we were down at the time he said it...


either way, are 10-minute scoring droughts normal for other teams? seems like we've always had the problem, more so in the herb days. i mean, is it just a normal thing?

12/1/2010 8:07:49 PM

Quote :

"I thought we played decent defense the first 7 or so minutes of the game."

We played great defense up until the phantom foul call that saved the shot clock violation

12/1/2010 8:07:52 PM

Quote :

"I liked Leslie's pass that hit the bottom of the backboard. That's a new one."

Haven't you played NBA Street watched nc state play basketball before? Throwing it off the backboard = more style points what nc state does

[Edited on December 1, 2010 at 8:09 PM. Reason : ]

12/1/2010 8:07:58 PM

Quote :

"nowhere to go but up for the second half"

you would think that, but nc state manages to establish new lowes (har har) everyday.

12/1/2010 8:08:07 PM

I dont think people do understand though lol hence the dumbshit comments by some "believers"

[Edited on December 1, 2010 at 8:08 PM. Reason : x]

12/1/2010 8:08:13 PM

we're not going to get any better without tracy

we have no big men and it forces us to play vandenberg who is just clown shoes

any time we go down double digits the freshmen panic and go 1 on 5. it's the opposite of a good experience

12/1/2010 8:08:32 PM

up-tempo that sid has hyped for so many years can work....

IF HE TAUGHT DEFENSE

don't fire him yet. i've always been ah huge supporter of sid. wait until tracy gets back and see how we do. if we still come close to sucking this bad HE HAS GOT TO GO. no wait til next years. no we're young. no one more year.

he must go.

12/1/2010 8:08:32 PM

our only chance to win.....







latino heat

12/1/2010 8:08:44 PM

We played fine for 7 out of 20 minutes.

12/1/2010 8:08:59 PM

North Carolina State vs Michigan State
11/28/07 7 p.m. at Breslin Center - East Lansing, Mich.
North Carolina State 58 • 4-2
Total 3-Ptr Rebounds
## Player FG-FGA FG-FGA FT-FTA Off Def Tot PF TP A TO Blk Stl Min
04 FELLS, Courtney * 0-7 0-4 0-0 1 1 2 5 0 0 1 0 1 23
11 GRANT, Gavin * 2-5 0-3 3-4 1 1 2 2 7 4 3 2 0 30
12 DEGAND, Farnold * 4-5 3-4 0-0 0 1 1 0 11 4 1 1 0 31
33 COSTNER, Brandon * 2-9 0-3 5-7 1 3 4 2 9 1 2 0 0 23
34 MCCAULEY, Ben * 0-5 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 21
01 HICKSON, J.J. 7-11 0-0 7-11 4 6 10 1 21 0 4 4 0 29
02 HARRIS, Simon 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
10 GONZALEZ, Javier 0-2 0-1 0-0 1 1 2 0 0 0 3 0 1 6
15 FERGUSON, Trevor 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0+
23 SMITH, Tracy 0-1 0-0 1-4 0 2 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 8
31 HORNER, Dennis 2-3 1-2 4-6 2 4 6 1 9 0 1 0 0 27
Team 1 1 2
Totals 17-48 4-17 20-32 11 20 31 12 58 10 15 8 2 200
FG % 1st Half: 5-23 21.7%
3FG % 1st Half: 1-8 12.5%
FT % 1st Half: 8-12 66.7%
2nd half: 12-25 48.0%
2nd half: 3-9 33.3%
2nd half: 12-20 60.0%
Game: 17-48 35.4%
Game: 4-17 23.5%
Game: 20-32 62.5%
Deadball
Rebounds
4
Michigan State 81 • 5-1
Total 3-Ptr Rebounds
## Player FG-FGA FG-FGA FT-FTA Off Def Tot PF TP A TO Blk Stl Min
02 Morgan, Raymar * 7-11 0-1 1-2 3 4 7 3 15 1 1 1 1 26
05 Walton, Travis * 2-4 0-0 1-2 0 0 0 1 5 7 1 0 0 21
11 Neitzel, Drew * 7-11 3-6 0-2 0 2 2 2 17 5 0 0 0 28
14 Suton, Goran * 8-14 0-0 0-0 3 9 12 4 16 2 1 2 4 27
41 Gray, Marquise * 3-6 0-0 1-1 2 5 7 3 7 0 1 0 0 14
00 Ibok, Idong 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 2 0 0 1 1 0 11
01 Lucas, Kalin 3-6 0-0 2-2 0 0 0 1 8 4 1 0 1 18
03 Allen, Chris 3-8 2-6 1-1 0 0 0 2 9 0 1 0 2 19
15 Summers, Durrell 1-4 0-0 0-1 1 2 3 2 2 2 1 0 0 11
20 Kebler, Mike 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
22 Dahlman, Isaiah 0-1 0-1 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 4
34 Naymick, Drew 1-1 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 4 2 0 1 1 0 14
40 Herzog, Tom 0-1 0-0 0-0 2 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 6
Team 3 0 3
Totals 35-67 5-14 6-11 14 28 42 24 81 21 10 5 8 200
FG % 1st Half: 19-37 51.4%
3FG % 1st Half: 2-9 22.2%
FT % 1st Half: 1-2 50.0%
2nd half: 16-30 53.3%
2nd half: 3-5 60.0%
2nd half: 5-9 55.6%
Game: 35-67 52.2%
Game: 5-14 35.7%
Game: 6-11 54.5%
Deadball
Rebounds
3
Officials: Tom O'Neill, Donnee Gray, J.D. Collins
Technical fouls: North Carolina State-None. Michigan State-None.
Attendance: 14759
Big Ten/ACC Challenge
Score by periods 1st 2nd Total
North Carolina State 19 39 58
Michigan State 41 40 81
In Off 2nd Fast
Points Paint T/O Chance Break Bench
ST 20 8 10 4 31
MSU 38 19 24 6 21
Last FG - ST 2nd-00:28, MSU 2nd-01:31.
Largest lead - ST by 2 1st-19:39, MSU by 32 2nd-11:42.
Score tied - 1 time.
Lead changed - 1 time.

12/1/2010 8:09:35 PM

Scott Wood needs to make an appearance.

12/1/2010 8:09:36 PM

the good news about all of this is lee fowler isn't here anymore.

all hope rests in YOW!

i believe in her.

12/1/2010 8:10:20 PM

We'll lose some ugly ones like this, but I have confidence in this team. We are not suppose to win this early in the season against a very mature Wisky team(let along they never lose at home).

Relax people.

12/1/2010 8:10:30 PM

leslie needs to take his leave

12/1/2010 8:10:35 PM

I'd really like Tracy Smith to get up off the bench, rip off those sweats and bellow "Let me handle this." That would make me happy. Until then, at least it's not the game where we only scored like 9 in the first half.

12/1/2010 8:10:49 PM

We should rehire Les Robinson. I've seen his teams play with more heart at least.

12/1/2010 8:10:58 PM

yeah dude, that place was rocking. i totally understand why they keep saying that this is one of the toughest places to play

12/1/2010 8:11:13 PM