8/26/2011 4:04:08 PM

Quote :

"i thought the difference between Cam and Tebow is Tebow had full OTAs, a full training camp, got his playbook in April, and still couldn't start until Week 15"

Because Cam would be starting if you guys had anyone other than Pickles as an option

8/26/2011 4:14:34 PM

if they didn't want him to start they would have signed a veteran QB of a higher skill level than Derek Anderson

8/26/2011 5:26:43 PM

something new for the NFL Ticket Exchange online system this year, I'd guess its league wide

if you sell tickets now, instead of the money going into your season ticket account to be applied towards next year's tickets, you have the option to direct deposit the money into a checking or savings account

nice

8/29/2011 4:11:19 PM

[Edited on August 30, 2011 at 9:30 AM. Reason : He's still got armies in the Ukraine]

8/30/2011 9:29:30 AM

Jeremy Shockey and Ben Hartsock both are veteran tight ends in their first season with the Carolina Panthers. Now they have something else to bond over.

Hartsock credited his teammate with helping to save his life Monday after he choked on a piece of meat and couldn't breathe in the team's lunch room.

According to NationalFootballPost.com, Hartsock's agent, Mike McCartney, said a piece of pork tenderloin got caught in Hartsock's throat.

Hartsock tried drinking water to clear his throat, but that didn't work.

"He started to go to the bathroom, and I don't know if he collapsed, but he couldn't breathe," McCartney said. "Some new guy came and tried to give him the Heimlich. It didn't work. Then, Shockey hit him in the back pretty hard and out came the meat. The Panthers told me it was really scary.

"He said to me a little while ago, 'I really hope this doesn't get out, but if it does, it's going to be a funny story.' "

8/30/2011 10:06:26 AM

Golden Boot to the Saints?

8/30/2011 10:07:30 AM

preseason only.

just got my Panthers @ Falcons tickets!

8/30/2011 12:30:32 PM

Just sold all 6 of my Packers tickets ($54 face) for $178.20 each

basically recouped 1/3 of my season ticket cost on that game alone

8/30/2011 12:54:12 PM

8/30/2011 1:11:27 PM

yeees

8/30/2011 1:14:04 PM

Four Panthers to IR: OG Geoff Schwartz, TE Gary Barnidge, WR David Gettis and C Zack Williams. The team also waived QB Tony Pike and OG Duke Robinson and released LS Chris Massey

8/30/2011 3:21:09 PM

Thanks, Scott Fowler

8/30/2011 3:22:08 PM

no problem, Tom.

8/30/2011 3:29:17 PM

always lol in my head when i see "OG"

8/30/2011 3:29:50 PM

I always rotflmao in my head when someone says they lol in their head

8/30/2011 3:31:15 PM

was curious how your response would fare

i give it a 6.2/10

8/30/2011 3:37:40 PM

anyone going to the Steelers game this week?

we have tickets, but I've never been. How early should we get there?

8/30/2011 4:10:01 PM

maybe if you've never been it's worth going to just to check out the stadium, but that game is always the absolutely shittiest of the shit game

8/30/2011 4:13:18 PM

I would say "maybe that's why it was given to us" but the guy who gifted it can't make the trip since its a weekday preseason game

8/30/2011 4:18:02 PM

if it's your first experience don't base every Panthers game on it. It really is a whole other world completely. It's the one game as a season ticket owner that I do not go to because it's gotten that bad. Overweight steeler fans with yellow dishrags everywhere.

8/30/2011 4:36:07 PM

It will be shit because its the 4th preseason game and nobody plays, not because its the Steelers. Disregard Jeepin's infantile mindset.

8/30/2011 4:46:44 PM

but that's the case for any 4th preseason game in the NFL. this game has become something entirely of it's own.

8/30/2011 4:50:15 PM

4th preseason game is worthless. if anything, preseason week 3 is when teams treat the game like it's regular season.

8/30/2011 10:53:42 PM

I've never heard that before

8/31/2011 2:01:28 AM

Another subtle condescending remark from tgl3

8/31/2011 9:13:48 AM

you're welcome

8/31/2011 11:37:21 AM

Dudes basically saying Cam should scramble like a mofo

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6912435/nfl-why-panthers-let-cam-newton-loose

Quote :

"In a start last week versus the Bengals, rookie Panthers QB Cam Newton finished Carolina's first drive by scampering for a 16-yard touchdown. There was nothing special about the play, particularly if you've seen Newton play football for more than 15 minutes. On third-and-11 he took a shotgun snap, and at a hint of pressure he started to glide into Cincinnati's secondary, appearing slow, yet somehow faster than everyone else. He rolled off a hit from a safety he outweighs by 30 pounds and landed in the end zone. Fifteen minutes later, on third-and-8, Newton scrambled again, this time for 26 yards. Again, this seemed like nothing odd -- unless you're talking about the National Football League. Over the last four seasons, NFL quarterbacks have run for touchdowns of 15-plus yards four times a year on average, according to Elias. That's about once per 8,100 plays. (Minus Michael Vick, it would be more like once per 12,000 plays.) And last year, NFL quarterbacks ran for 25 or more yards 17 total times, about once per 1,900 plays. Newton did something within 15 minutes of football that, statistically, should happen about once per 12,222 NFL games (approximately 48 years). Find a sample size small enough, and you can argue anything. But that's just the point. This didn't seem odd at all, it was just typical Newton -- only the statistical improbablity looks odd. The quarterback looks the same. The question is whether this rare gift, combined with just average passing ability, can make him elite. The evidence says it might. It also says there's no reason Newton shouldn't run like crazy. Before the NFL combine, Newton's personal QB coach discussed how Newton could compare to Ben Roethlisberger because of his ability to extend the play. "When you think of his feet as a weapon, you're thinking the wrong way," he told me. He meant that Newton's ability to run made him equally dangerous as a passer. He has Roethlisberger's size and arm, his coach argued, but even greater evasiveness. Bills GM Buddy Nix concurred: "Guys like that, they make your line look better, because tacklers can't get them down, and receivers look better, because they have time to get open." The question is whether Newton should be backpedaling just to prove he can. Newton is a gifted athlete who can throw the ball, but he's 4 inches taller than Ray Lewis and about the same weight. Comparing Vick to Newton isn't apples and oranges, but Newton is a much, much bigger apple. First, consider the precedent. There's an argument to be made that Newton was, for one season, the greatest running quarterback in college football history. Particularly when you consider that it wasn't even his primary function, and his team won a title. His 1,473 yards rushing ranks third all time in FBS, miles ahead of the single-season totals of plausible dual-threat NFL QBs -- like Tim Tebow, Michael Vick, Brad Smith, Vince Young and Steve Young -- as well as pure running QBs like Tommie Frazier. When Auburn wanted to grind teams down, the quarterback didn't need to turn around and hand the ball off; he'd take his 6-foot-5, 250-pound frame and steer it into a linebacker as the clock ticked away on another Auburn win. At the same time, he was one interception from being college football's highest-rated passer last season; his 182.05 passer rating was good for the No. 2 spot, a hair behind Boise State's Kellen Moore. When Newton was taken No. 1 overall, it really wasn't the second Vick-type pick at that spot, the latest runner-slash-passer who had to evolve. It was the first Cam Newton. Vick is a gifted athlete who can throw the ball, but because of his 6-foot, 210-pound frame, he terrifies his coaches when he takes hits as a runner. He's played 16 games in only one of his eight NFL seasons. Newton is a gifted athlete who can throw the ball, but he's 4 inches taller than Ray Lewis and about the same weight. Comparing Vick to Newton isn't apples and oranges, but Newton is a much, much bigger apple. According to Total QBR, both of those runs last week were of great value, because of clutch-weighting. Both were third-down runs that picked up first downs and increased the Panthers' expected point total. In the case of the touchdown run, it also increased the actual point total. Newton will develop as a passer, but right now, the newer measurements of quarterback value recognize that yards are yards. Newton isn't a good running quarterback because he can pick up key yards with his feet, he's a good quarterback, just as Josh Freeman and Aaron Rodgers were last year as the league's best scrambling QBs. This isn't to say Newton can't or won't throw. There are some reasons Newton can even succeed early as a passer: • The shotgun conversion is often overstated. In 2010, 37.5 percent of all passes were from the shotgun. Is Peyton Manning less of a passer because he completed 74.5 percent of his throws last year from that formation? • Newton's accuracy and reads are a question, but his fundamentals are largely in place. • As Nix said, Newton's ability as a passer will often stem from extending the play, not just reading it. Great quarterbacks make good reads, but "The Catch" happened when the first few reads weren't there. More likely, though, it'll be difficult for a while for Newton to be a good thrower, just as it is for any rookie quarterback. The accuracy isn't there yet, and it's a faster game in the NFL. You can see his head spinning. But in the push to develop him as a passer, Carolina's coaches shouldn't do a lot to hinder Newton's ability to totally change a game with his feet. "We have to really study him and watch him," Panthers head coach Ron Rivera said this week. In listening to Rivera, you wonder if he's trying to make up his mind not just on whether to start Newton, but on what he should ask him to be. He should ask him Newton to be himself. The passing gains will come. In the meantime, telling Newton not to run would be to take away his one elite skill. "

[Edited on September 1, 2011 at 11:27 AM. Reason : pasted for the cheap fucks without insider]

9/1/2011 11:24:21 AM

Quote :

"To read more about why Cam Newton could be an elite QB, you must be an ESPN Insider."

lol



for some reason they have a separate login for me for insider stuff when i put in that code from the magazine, often dont find the insider information worth logging out and in or opening a different browser w/ the insider login saved on it

9/1/2011 11:27:35 AM

to read what buster olney had for breakfast join ESPN Insider

9/1/2011 11:39:04 AM

Homers

9/1/2011 4:23:02 PM

man I can't imagine how bad pike must have been to have not been given any chance over clausen, either that or the management just doesn't know what they are doing

9/1/2011 5:08:04 PM

nga u dumb

9/1/2011 5:11:38 PM

he just had surgery on his shoulder

also, maybe there's a possibility that he just isn't that good?

9/1/2011 7:09:52 PM

^ like Balmer who was waived before even playing a pre-season snap for the Panthers.

9/1/2011 7:23:53 PM

defense needs to play better

9/1/2011 8:12:12 PM

that was interference

NICE RUN CAM

9/1/2011 8:23:46 PM

helluva fucking throw given how he was almost sacked

9/1/2011 8:24:11 PM

THROW A TD PASS RIGHT HERE

9/1/2011 8:24:52 PM

w00t!

9/1/2011 8:26:31 PM

he looked sharp all drive, i'm impressed with his improvement from last week

9/1/2011 8:26:38 PM

[Edited on September 1, 2011 at 8:27 PM. Reason : ^ fuck yes. We just have to keep in mind it is never as good or bad as it seems. Give him time.]

9/1/2011 8:26:49 PM

hopefully that helped his confidence out a bit, his throws looked a lot more poised and off the front foot as well as his footwork and movement in general on that drive.

9/1/2011 8:28:48 PM

defense showed a little life after the score +1

9/1/2011 8:35:16 PM

well preseason game #4, its been fun, but now that Cam is out, i dont really care

9/1/2011 8:37:51 PM

and now Garry Williams goes down. we need some OL depth

9/1/2011 8:52:46 PM

For any improvement we make on offense, I worry the defense has taken an equal stride backwards. They made Charlie Batch look like Kyle Orton. not that they dont favor each other already or anything...

9/1/2011 8:57:59 PM

Was a good qtr for Cam and Co. Will take that effort. We still need Armani to hold on to them passes. That 4th down drop at end of 1st is not what we want to see.


III

9/1/2011 8:58:56 PM

great execution of the screen

9/1/2011 9:08:56 PM

Anderson to Clowney for a TD

9/1/2011 9:11:10 PM