A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Man, these students have a serious lack of perspective.] 11/9/2011 11:28:04 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
On ESPN they just said that found a few people (at Penn St) who were in support of the decision to fire Paterno, but they refused to do an interview because they were afraid of getting beat up. 11/9/2011 11:39:33 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
anybody who doesn't think that firing JoePa was the right thing to do needs to seriously reevaluate their worth as a human being
there is nothing hard about this. he was told what happened. he was right within the law. all that prevents him from is going to jail. he was morally wrong in washing his hands of this situation and allowing a predator to continue to be free. there is no reason why he should be protected from this.
[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 11:43 PM. Reason : .] 11/9/2011 11:42:03 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
As someone else pointed out, the fact that Joe Paterno is a bigger story than Sandusky is disappointing.
[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 11:48 PM. Reason : ] 11/9/2011 11:43:16 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
i don't think anyone is saying that what joe did is worse. but yeah, the legendary coach having his career ended by getting fired is a big story. it's pretty shocking.
i mean if the president covered up a murder for an old friend of his, you're damn sure that would be the lede, not the murder itself
[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 11:46 PM. Reason : .] 11/9/2011 11:45:13 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I know...Paterno getting fired is definitely a huge story (especially given the circumstances). But it's unfortunate that I've been watching ESPN for more than 5 minutes and haven't heard Sandusky's name mentioned yet. 11/9/2011 11:46:29 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
The Sandusky story is over, dude was arrested, nothing to talk about until trial.
The Paterno, et. al story is about the cover up, which is still unfolding.
[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 11:48 PM. Reason : .] 11/9/2011 11:47:55 PM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
Wonder what the student with the bullhorn at Old Main is saying. Students passing around a cutout of JoePa 11/9/2011 11:48:26 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
what a quaint little house 11/9/2011 11:53:40 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "As someone else pointed out, the fact that Joe Paterno is a bigger story than Sandusky is disappointing. " |
At this moment, it's not disappointing at all. Sandusky is sitting is awaiting trial, there's nothing to report. A guy who's been coaching for 40+ years -- the winningest coach of all time -- just got fired. That's something no one saw coming just a week ago. It's fucking huge.11/9/2011 11:56:25 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE NBA LABOR NEGOTIATIONS 11/9/2011 11:58:49 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Yeah, but if you have a beef with Paterno being fired, you need to take it up with Sandusky, not the Board of Trustees.
* "you" referring to those in general, not Ernie. Sandusky is completely relevant to what's going on.] 11/10/2011 12:03:12 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, but here's a completely unrelated point to the one you made, Ernie 11/10/2011 12:04:17 AM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
let's see this van flipping footage 11/10/2011 12:05:29 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
GET OFF MY LAWN 11/10/2011 12:08:25 AM |
settledown Suspended 11583 Posts user info edit post |
WHAT THE FUCK IS JOEPA DOING????
he's on his fucking porch posing for the cameras 11/10/2011 12:08:43 AM |
willembahh All American 2378 Posts user info edit post |
11/10/2011 12:10:36 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
jesus
it's as if perspective doesn't exist anymore 11/10/2011 12:12:11 AM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
Possible fire on Old Main lawn.
https://twitter.com/#!/DailyCollegian 11/10/2011 12:12:38 AM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
a damn football coach was fired...cause for rioting if there ever was one 11/10/2011 12:15:10 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I hope they burn chapel hill to the ground when Everrit Withers is fired. 11/10/2011 12:17:13 AM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
ncsuapex punched a hole in the wall when amato was fired...true story 11/10/2011 12:19:32 AM |
AuH20 All American 1604 Posts user info edit post |
Where is the live stream? I don't think this will be as good as the Vancouver riots, but one can hope... 11/10/2011 12:19:59 AM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
fire truck....FLIP IT 11/10/2011 12:20:56 AM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
Police will arrest anyone on College Ave. Officer hit with bottle
[Edited on November 10, 2011 at 12:23 AM. Reason : Bustin out the mace]
Quote : | "Also worth noting: #PennState student body is made up of 44,000+ students at University Park. Not all students are out tonight." |
[Edited on November 10, 2011 at 12:26 AM. Reason : quote]
Quote : | "UPark alert :: Police issue official dispersal order for Old Main, downtown State College. Everyone must vacate both areas immediately." |
[Edited on November 10, 2011 at 12:28 AM. Reason : scatter]11/10/2011 12:22:38 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
there's no need for twitter updates here, if i want twitter updates i'll go to twitter 11/10/2011 12:28:46 AM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
uh, well, that's where all the news comes from with shit like this, and you can't follow everybody... 11/10/2011 12:47:27 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
crazy shit going on... riots related to a coach would NEVER happen the the SEC. South is civilized. 11/10/2011 12:58:51 AM |
Nova1163 Veteran 395 Posts user info edit post |
How does Mike McQueary still have a job? Am i the only one who see's how amazing that is? 11/10/2011 1:19:07 AM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, kinda surprised at the lack of ire directed towards McQueary.
Not completely sure what I'd do if I actually walked in on a man raping a kid, but going back to my office and calling my dad probably wouldn't be high on the list. 11/10/2011 3:27:54 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "AGREED. I feel like JoePa is getting the Jimmy V treatment here. I dont think they know for sure how much he did or didnt know, and its going to look pretty bad if its later determined he did what he was supposed to do, and thats how they treated him at the end of his career." |
Ugh, we all know that he did what he was supposed to do. That's even in the grand jury testimony. Legally at least.
But he didn't do what he needed to do and because of it more kids lives were likely ruined. And even if Sandusky became an angel afterwards and stopped doing it (which loads and loads of research suggests is an almost impossibility) he was enabled to.
And for a man who leads kids/young adults, that isn't good enough.11/10/2011 5:49:40 AM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
I can't believe Sandusky is free on $100k bail. He must be at some undisclosed location because I think there's a pretty high risk of vigilante justice. 11/10/2011 6:16:16 AM |
Pikey All American 6421 Posts user info edit post |
11/10/2011 6:27:04 AM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Sandusky story is over, dude was arrested, nothing to talk about until trial." |
if you believe this dude - who apparently has had some insider knowledge - @SPORTSbyBROOKS
SPORTSbyBROOKS I can confirm there will soon be new, major allegation involving child sex abuse in Sandusky case. Told tonite it could come before Saturday
SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS If what I was told tonight about the details of the new allegation in Sandusky child sex case is true, it will horrify the public.11/10/2011 7:12:17 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
As if fucking 10 year old boys in the ass isn't horrifying? 11/10/2011 7:17:15 AM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
i honestly am not sure how much worse this can get :-/ 11/10/2011 7:22:51 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Worse = more people involved in the molesting. 11/10/2011 7:38:11 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
He did it while wearing a UNC shirt 11/10/2011 7:38:39 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
^ that would be awesome. 11/10/2011 7:45:39 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Sandusky story is over, dude was arrested, nothing to talk about until trial.
The Paterno, et. al story is about the cover up, which is still unfolding." |
Also Paterno thumbed his nose at the suggestion of immediate disciplinary action... oh no worries, I'll just retire in a few months. That's going to get him some attention from the people that feel like the situation should be dealt with ASAP. And of course he'll get even more attention when people are rioting in the streets in support of him.
With all this rioting and anger over the firing of a coach that sat idle and allowed child rape to continue it is extremely easy to see how the crimes got swept under the rug in the first place. Maintaining a football legacy comes before any moral obligation. These students and other supporters are just a part of the problem. It's going to be a tough one to fix. Maybe they should require a course on ethics, morals, and how to be a good citizen for all incoming freshman. Common Sense 100. Heck, maybe have 4 courses, a refresher for each year.11/10/2011 7:54:57 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
The Penn State kids being interviewed on ESPN are hilarious...and retarded. 11/10/2011 7:56:04 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i honestly am not sure how much worse this can get :-/" |
Paterno doing it himself?11/10/2011 8:01:44 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder how these kids would feel if their younger brother had been molested and paterno turned his head. 11/10/2011 8:02:10 AM |
Toms House All American 4464 Posts user info edit post |
I'm thinking PSU almost has to leave the family for their next coaching hire. I'm a Miami fan, so of course I'm biased, but I don't think they can bring in a Joe Pa disciple. 11/10/2011 8:06:20 AM |
akaseinfeld All American 1608 Posts user info edit post |
^Golden was promoted when Sandusky was relieved of his duties, not sure they can hire anyone associated with that time period/last 9 years.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/11/mike-mcqueary-joe-paterno-penn-state-practice/1
Mcqueary isn't a small guy, no reason he should have left the kid there.
Here is a letter Mcqueary had been sending to recruits
http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-mcqueary-recruiting-letter-2011-11
[Edited on November 10, 2011 at 8:14 AM. Reason : .] 11/10/2011 8:12:17 AM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Mcqueary isn't a small guy, no reason he should have left the kid there." |
wasn't he a relatively small fish when the event happened?
and i was just thinking about this. how in the hell do the people who witnessed this live with themselves knowing that they could've stopped this man from molesting and raping more children, and they didn't? more boys lives were ruined, and they could've stopped it.
so sad.11/10/2011 8:29:28 AM |
akaseinfeld All American 1608 Posts user info edit post |
^I believe his playing height/weight was 6'4" 213 lbs, so I can't imagine he was smaller at age 28. Unless you are referring to small fish on staff, as in he didn't act out of fear for his job/career which I could see, but still is no excuse in my opinion. I don't think he would have had any problem finding work if he stopped a child from being raped, more like a hero.
[Edited on November 10, 2011 at 8:38 AM. Reason : .] 11/10/2011 8:37:21 AM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
completely agree that it's not an excuse.
and yes, i was speaking to his position on staff, not his stature. 11/10/2011 8:40:27 AM |
akaseinfeld All American 1608 Posts user info edit post |
^haha I apologize, I read it as "smallish" instead of "small fish"....dang f gets me every time. 11/10/2011 8:41:58 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
McQueary wasnt just a normal graduate assistant/waterboy type person though. He was a former starting quarterback who transitioned to the staff after he graduated.
When I first heard that a grad assistant saw the Sandusky acts I was thinking it was just a clipboard carrying idiot who would never stand up to the big bad D. Coordinator. But after finding out who it actually was changed my opinion a lot. 11/10/2011 8:58:27 AM |