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2/29/2012 1:06:53 PM

VT faces Clemson, FSU, and Miami after the other teams bye week. That sucks

2/29/2012 1:10:28 PM

VT had the easiest football schedule in the history of college football last year

2/29/2012 1:36:57 PM

People that respond to face should be suspended shot on site

2/29/2012 3:58:17 PM

I thought it was a pretty innocuous comment. Honestly, most everything I say on here is non-controversial. It's just that people don't like objective opinions about their team.

Everyone knows that this is a big year for Glennon and if he doesn't perform it will be widely accepted that we screwed up cutting Wilson last season.

Wilson was one of the elite QB's in all of football last year and was one of the most talked about players in the country. I can't be the only one here who recognizes that he was pretty good.

If we'd cut Philip Rivers because Marcus Stone threatened to transfer, I'm sure the reaction would be quite different from all of you.

2/29/2012 4:04:46 PM

If we'd cut Drew Bledsoe because Tom Brady threatened to request a trade, I'm sure the reaction would be quite different from all of you.

2/29/2012 4:08:12 PM

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"It's just that people don't like objective opinions about their team."

Objective like "If we had RW last season, we would have won several more games and be ACC champions". Shut up.

2/29/2012 4:12:16 PM

two I-AA teams, boo

will there be more Duke fans or more Central fans at Wallace Wade when the two teams meet for the Durham City Championship?

[Edited on February 29, 2012 at 4:17 PM. Reason : .]

2/29/2012 4:15:40 PM

It's been said about a million times that USA counts as a 1-A win this year.....

2/29/2012 4:24:49 PM

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"Wilson was one of the elite QB's in all of football last year and was one of the most talked about players in the country."

And I'm sure that had NOTHING to do with the fact that he was on absolutely stacked offense with 2 tremendous HB's and practically a NFL O-line...

2/29/2012 4:31:28 PM

^^ I realize it's been said about a million times, but no one has pointed to anything that concretely says it. HD (and I know she's wrong often) says they count as an FCS team...

2/29/2012 4:37:59 PM

Russell Wilson is always relevant. In any thread, any season, any year...

2/29/2012 4:40:00 PM

RW is the new HS

2/29/2012 4:47:41 PM

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"Like it or not, if RW had been here last year we had a great slim chance at winning the ACC championship because our D-line depth was so badly depleted that we were forced to play walk-ons and our starting FB.."

We had our best chance to win the ACC in 2010 at Maryland, and RW still couldn't get us there.

Maybe we would have won the BC game last season, but it wouldn't have mattered since Clemson had locked up the division that same weekend.

2/29/2012 5:11:01 PM

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" If we'd cut Drew Bledsoe because Tom Brady threatened to request a trade, I'm sure the reaction would be quite different from all of you."

And you just compared marcus stone to tom brady...

[Edited on February 29, 2012 at 5:26 PM. Reason : Derp]

2/29/2012 5:25:07 PM

and Mike Glennon was compared to Marcus Stone... derp

and Russel Wilson was compared to Phillip Rivers.

2/29/2012 5:28:01 PM

i also compared a baseball player who will be lucky to ever start an NFL game to a former #1 overall pick that made the Pro Bowl

clearly not the best analogy, but i was responding to face afterall

2/29/2012 5:29:42 PM

I don't think face's argument is that far off. Obviously he has to make a lot of assumptions about what RW would have done last year, but he is correct that Glennon played horrible against BC and Wake which were our two most disappointing losses last season and games we would have won with better QB play.

I agree too that it would have been better for us to have a great season last year and a suck ass one this year than a couple 7 to 8 win seasons. We cannot change the past and just need to hope that we can overcome our obvious issues at LB and WR this year. I am worried that the LB problems will be a huge deal especially since our D-line is not exactly stellar either.

2/29/2012 6:11:02 PM

remember when we lost games when RW was our QB? remember when RW had bad plays and sub-par games?

3/1/2012 2:50:29 PM

LIES. RW never had a bad game.

3/1/2012 2:56:33 PM

i wanna see that freshman (Art Norman?) Dline guy next season. He made a strong impression last year particularly in the UNC game for a true freshman i'd never heard of. guy looked like a beast

3/1/2012 3:18:10 PM

optimism? it's amazing how much better of a mood you're in after a b-ball win.

3/1/2012 3:21:22 PM

I offer a fair dose of optimism when it's warranted. I said I thought we'd win last night.

The football team has some strengths this year but definite weakness at WR. LB doesn't worry me too much because it's one of the easiest positions to learn and really our defensive schemes are pretty easy on them. Just blitz every down and try not to fall down.

3/1/2012 3:26:39 PM

Finally explained why we only need six wins for bowl eligibility: http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/37256/updated-nc-state-needs-6-wins

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" Updated: NC State needs 6 wins By Heather Dinich OK, here's the deal: NC State needs SIX WINS for bowl eligibility, according to NC State Executive Senior Associate AD Chris Kingston. I apologize for the confusion on this, but I was told last week by the ACC and NC State that the program needed seven wins. That answer came, though, before the Sun Belt released its 2012 schedule, and that is part of the answer in this convoluted mess. All you need to know is the bottom line, which is six wins, but here's some background for those who are wondering why this is so confusing: Not only is South Alabama's schedule part of the equation, but it also depends on South Alabama's opponents' classification. According to the NCAA bylaws, in order for South Alabama to count toward NC State's bowl eligibility, it had to meet the following criteria: •South Alabama had to be in its second year of transition AND •Play at least 60 percent of its 12-game schedule against FBS opponents AND •Five of those FBS opponents must be home games. Quick: Look at South Alabama's schedule and find me the five FBS home games. Need help? •FAU •FIU •Middle Tennessee •Troy The other two home games are UTSA and Nicholls State, both FCS programs. (Head hurt yet?) I'll fast-forward: NichollsState meets the 90 percent scholarship average, so because South Alabama can count FCS opponent Nicholls State as an FBS win toward bowl eligibility (just like NC State can count The Citadel), Nicholls State counts as an FBS win in their scheduling, therefore NC State can count South Alabama. There you have it: It all came down to Nicholls State. Who knew? You have your answer, though, six wins. My apologies for needing two tries to get it to you."

3/2/2012 12:51:09 PM

Can we have a standardized response anytime someone posts that they think we need 7 wins??

3/2/2012 12:56:20 PM

I think the people that weren't sure of how many wins we needed (like myself) just wanted an explaination. This is the first time I've seen it. It was not nearly as simple as USA being in their second transition year as was suggested before.

If you want a standaradized response, just say "you're wrong, we need 6 wins."

3/2/2012 1:05:28 PM

RW fucked up several game for us last year (Vtech, Clemson, ECU). Obviously our defense gave up some points in the ECU and Tech games, but the offense left plenty on the field as well and RW threw some costly interceptions. Clemson game just sucked.

So we probably could have one a game or two extra with him under center, but no way we would have an ACC championship with as shitty our defense was the first half of the season.

3/2/2012 1:09:59 PM

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"The football team has some strengths this year but definite weakness at WR. "

Palmer was arguably our best WR last year, definitely our most explosive. I'm excited to see what he can do with more targets. Underwood has some big-time potential too. And don't forget Asa Watson (TE) will be back after redshirting last season. He could be due for a big year.

3/2/2012 1:12:38 PM

Hakeem Flowers was a big time recruit that impressed on the scout team and the Bowl practice.

i expect big things out of Flowers. and i want to see Underwood run 8 go routes a game, dude looked fast as hell.

http://www.gopack.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/flowers_hakeem00.html

[Edited on March 2, 2012 at 1:20 PM. Reason : s]

3/2/2012 1:19:20 PM

^^ blaming the vt game on rw is crazy talk he played his nuts off. He did kill us against ECU though.
Clemson he didn't play well either but we had a shot to win before tob benched Russell on 4th and inches even though he converts that nearly every time.

And its already been explained that defense had nothing to do with the bc loss, bad quarterbacking did.

Gt and wake. Not exactly terrorizing defenses. I like our chances of winning one of those.

The Fsu game I will concede even though rw balled all over them twice. Iirc we lost that game bc Fsu started every possesion at the 50 yard line.

3/2/2012 1:21:39 PM

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"Can we have a standardized response anytime someone posts that they think we need 7 wins??"

I think Quintin Payton will be a nice option at WR for us. Didn't catch a lot of balls last year, but he was like a 5th option behind TP and the 3 seniors. He's got good size.

[Edited on March 2, 2012 at 1:34 PM. Reason : QP]

3/2/2012 1:25:55 PM

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"blaming the vt game on rw is crazy talk he played his nuts off. He did kill us against ECU though. "

He played well for a quarter and a half...then shut the bed for the rest of the game. He was 21 of fucking 49 for three interceptions! If that's "playing his nuts off", then you have some low standards. I bet you thought Philip Rivers "played his nuts off" during San Diego's losing streak this year.

We had them on the ropes at the end of the half and he throws a retarded ass interception in the end zone. That happened, and I looked at everyone at the bar and said, "we're going to lose this game."

We probably would have won the BC game this year with RW...MAYBE (a big maybe) gtech game. We might have lost the Maryland game...who knows....RW didn't play too well against them last year (did he throw 3 ints at college park last year??).

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"we had a shot to win before tob benched Russell on 4th and inches even though he converts that nearly every time. "

Didn't he fail to convert the 4th and inches on the previous drive? Scratch that...he got stuffed on the 3rd and one on the previously play.


[Edited on March 2, 2012 at 1:34 PM. Reason : .]

3/2/2012 1:31:27 PM

Rw played great against vt period. The end of half int was bad but the final int doesn't go on him it was a hail Mary.

We lose that game 49-0 with Glennon back there . Rw had to dodge pass rush on every play our oline got manhandled that game. Glennon would have set the record for sacks taken out there

3/2/2012 2:07:21 PM

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"Rw played great against vt period. The end of half int was bad but the final int doesn't go on him it was a hail Mary."

And the founding fathers were all Christians too, huh?

Purely revisionist history. He was winging prayers all day. He didn't have to throw that ball in to double (triple?) coverage. You may have a point with RW being able to win one or two of those games last year, but don't just make shit up to support it.

3/2/2012 2:15:09 PM

^ Yep.

RW threw a ton of jump balls his sophomore year that our WR's made GREAT plays on. I said it all year last year, but I think he got a false sense of confidence from doing that two years ago and miraculously didn't throw a lot of picks.

He did the same thing in 2010 and threw at least twice as many picks. Even though we had the same tall, playmaking WRs...the law of probability finally hit us and the defenders actually caught some of those 50/50 balls.

Can you imagine how many picks he would have thrown this past year with our tiny WRs?? People forget that we lost the majority of our playmakers when RW left. Glennon had as much rapport with those guys working with them on 2nd team than RW would have.

3/2/2012 2:24:56 PM

He played great against vt I said that after the game. Bunch of whiners in here tried to pin that game on him when he played great vs an elite defense.

Hail Mary int with 50 seconds left isn't on the qb.


We lost that game bc of four specific plays. Our guy not pushing the rb out of bounds inexplicably, ko return for td, reverse fumble (tob started the meltdown there), and int before the half.

Rw played well that day, period.

3/2/2012 2:25:14 PM

It's funny when a stats guy picks a certain time to ignore stats. Usually it happens when it doesn't support his argument.

RW got a big head sometimes last year and made a lot of throws he shouldn't have made. There were a ton of times he could have checked down in that VT game or scrambled for 5+ yards, but he kept trying to make plays when we didn't need him to.

He DID NOT have a great game against V-tech. He had a very good quarter and a half.

3/2/2012 2:27:36 PM

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"We lose that game 49-0 with Glennon back there ."

In face's world, Glennon plays defense. And games played in 2010 apply to the NCSU Football 2012 thread.

We would have won 49-0 if Glennon was the QB. Prove me wrong

3/2/2012 2:28:13 PM

a page of posts and I'm thinking "oh something important must have happened"...NOPE, a bunch of idiots getting trolled, will you people just fucking ignore him already. you're going to be arguing this shit for the next five years

3/2/2012 2:39:19 PM

P.Rivers is a God and RW is a marginal QB in TWW fairyland.

How many more INT's do you think he would have thrown to unicorns?

3/2/2012 5:43:56 PM

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"Hail Mary int with 50 seconds left isn't on the qb. "

Holy revisionist history Bat Man. There was more like 1:30 left and he threw the ball into double/triple coverage near the 50 yd line on first down. There was no hail mary pass. It was an absolutely, 100% dumb fucking play.

[Edited on March 2, 2012 at 6:26 PM. Reason : ,]

3/2/2012 6:26:18 PM

No, a dumb play is taking a sack or running the clock out with dump passes and not giving yourself a chance to win.

Airing the ball out in that situation is an optimal play. You need to pick up yards FAST.

You play to win. Not just to pad your stats.

3/2/2012 6:37:21 PM

Oh wait, I'm arguing with face, fuck. Didn't even realize that dumbass was the one who posted that original comment. Carry on people.

3/2/2012 6:40:59 PM

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7625860/nc-state-wolfpack-linebacker-dj-green-suspended-season

3/4/2012 9:53:17 AM

[old] but at least on damn topic... what is our starting lineup @ LB going to look like this year now with Green gone?

3/4/2012 9:56:59 AM

First String
OLB: Rickey Dowdy - R. Junior
MLB: Sterling Lucas - R. Senior
OLB: Robert Caldwell - Junior (Transfer)

Second String
OLB: Michael Peek - Sophomore
MLB: Ryan Cheek - R. Junior
OLB: Brandon Pittman - Sophomore

Also, since Dontae Johnson played a hybrid safety/linebacker last season, we could see him rotate in as well.

3/5/2012 11:09:46 AM

fwiw

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"Not really recruiting, but supposedly RS Freshman DE Mike Rose & Sophomore DB Rodman Noel will be linebackers. http://twitter.com/#!/PackFootball"

3/5/2012 11:21:25 AM

spring game ---> http://www.facebook.com/events/310505729012272/

3/7/2012 1:28:12 AM

Quote :

"To Pack Nation from Taylor Gentry I want to thank all the pack fans for your support the past four years. From a kid who had a dream to play for the pack it has been an experience that will last me a lifetime. There was nothing like Saturday aftternoons spent on the field at Carter Finley Stadium. The NCAA decide to reject my redshirt request so it's on to the future. See you at the next level. Farewell and good luck in 2012 Taylor Gentry #47 "

3/15/2012 5:26:36 PM

I didn't realize that English was his second language

3/15/2012 5:33:58 PM