wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
I agree 4 points is optimistic. However I don't think its beyond the relm of possibility. I see a draw vs. Italy and then a win against Uruguay. Uruguay are resting on their laurels from the last World Cup. The squad is very different this time around and barely even qualified for the tournament. If Suarez isn't a 100% thats a huge blow for them. I believe England can certainly take 3 points off Uruguay in a close encounter.
The team I am most intrigued about is Bosnia. They could be the true dark horse in the World Cup. The group is pretty straight forward for Bosnia to finish 2nd. Finishing 2nd means they go up against the winner of group E. France is inconsistent and you never know which team shows up. Ivory Coast is another interesting prospect, however the knockout round would pit them against a group D team, considerably tougher.
As a tournament I think this will be very exciting. Can't wait for it to start now.
[Edited on June 10, 2014 at 8:17 PM. Reason : .] 6/10/2014 8:13:23 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
They went on to win Copa America
[Edited on June 10, 2014 at 8:30 PM. Reason : ] 6/10/2014 8:24:09 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Portugal is playing Ireland tonight. They look very clean in attack. Ronaldo basically plays and goes wherever the hell he wants. I think we should mark him with Jones. 6/10/2014 8:30:03 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Honestly the game has been pretty 50\50. Ronaldo is obviously a game changer but the rest of Portugal is pretty damn average..? 6/10/2014 8:36:27 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I agree. 3-0 definitely flatters Portugal but they've worked some strong counters and their passing looks very sharp in the final third. 6/10/2014 8:52:21 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Portugal looked like shit against mexico. 6/10/2014 9:28:57 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
In a diamond Beckerman can provide cover to the back 4 as an anchorman while Jones has the ability to move around and not only man mark Ronaldo but also help on what I think is the weakest side on the defense for the US, the LB position. Beasley is prone to bouts of concentration losses and can be caught out of position at times. Jones would hopefully rectify that while keeping Ronnie quiet. 6/10/2014 11:32:47 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Man-marking Ronaldo with Jones is an A+ idea. 6/11/2014 2:57:23 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Jones would be double booked by half. 6/11/2014 7:16:45 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
haha he's only had two cards in his last 14 US appearances and he's never had a red card for us. He's the closest guy we have that has the motor to keep up with him. Think his physicality could throw Ronaldo off his game a bit too, as long as he's not fouling too close to goal. How tight the WC is called is definitely going to affect our chances tho
The good thing about Ronaldo is that he's going to leave a ton of room for Fabian Johnson to get forward.
Cool field in Manaus. Italy/England and USA/Portugal are both there.
[Edited on June 11, 2014 at 8:26 AM. Reason : field] 6/11/2014 8:17:58 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Athens Drive HS could host a World Cup game better.. 6/11/2014 8:46:02 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Well suffered through the TWC line yesterday to get my once every 4 years DVR box. Will be attempting to again watch all 64 matches although will be much more difficult this time as I am no longer a single guy with not much else to do. Will be tough to avoid twitter and the internet in general for nearly a month trying to avoid scores as well. 6/11/2014 8:53:59 AM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Tipped by Pele as one of the tournament favorites and boasting its best ever squad for a World Cup, Chile must handle soaring and previously unseen expectations ahead of the team's opening match against big outsider Australia on Friday." |
With Vidal in question, this has the feel of the NCSU men's basketball team in 2012-2013. I'm hoping to avoid the same disappointment, fortunately I don't think there are any cancerous players on Chile's squad.6/11/2014 11:34:43 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/jun/05/world-cup-2010-pele-predictions 6/11/2014 11:51:54 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Just came here to say ^ you were right and I was wrong. Sakho looks to be chosen over Koscielny. I don't get why you'd not take the superior player (and frankly I don't think its close) but I was certainly wrong. 6/11/2014 12:27:24 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
ONE DAY!!!!! 6/11/2014 12:29:05 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I definitely think Sakho is underrated a bit (by Liverpool fans too) but I agree with you that I wouldn't start him over Koscielny either. At the same time though, I can't say I watch a lot of France and maybe he just pairs better with Varane? We're arguing about it with the US - sometimes the best XI isn't just lining up the best XI individuals. 6/11/2014 12:50:21 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
that pitch in Manaus looks terrible
expect some ruptured ACLs 6/11/2014 9:06:45 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Athens Drive HS could host a World Cup game better.." |
Or Preston Woods, Thomas Brooks Park, Mills Park, Middle Creek Park, and Davis Drive Park. 6/11/2014 9:52:56 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Chile must handle soaring and previously unseen expectations ahead of the team's opening match against big outsider Australia on Friday." |
Sorry if already mentioned, but 32 of the 33 Chilean miners who were trapped a half-mile deep in a gold/copper cave for 69 days (and it took 17 days to send down a probe to verify that they were even alive) made a video downplaying the "Group of Death". They supposedly took dirt from the mine and will spread it on Chile's practice field. J'esus, they take this seriously.
http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/ad-day-chilean-miners-stars-years-most-electrifying-world-cup-spot-1580666/11/2014 10:10:01 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
GAME DAY 6/12/2014 6:53:19 AM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
^^Thanks for the link I didn't see that 6/12/2014 9:00:52 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
Wait, I thought we were in the "Group of Death" 6/12/2014 9:18:19 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
that's because we're biased Americans 6/12/2014 9:25:21 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
But I thought Germany and Portugal were both ranked in the top 4. 6/12/2014 9:30:46 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, according to FIFA rankings, # 13 USA has #2 Germany, #4 Portugal, and #37 Ghana....
#12 Chile has #1 Spain, #15 Netherlands, and #62 Australia.
I think ours is the Official Group of death, easily. Based on FIFA rankings...
[Edited on June 12, 2014 at 9:40 AM. Reason : ] 6/12/2014 9:40:09 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
nobody that follows soccer gives a shit about the rankings
[Edited on June 12, 2014 at 9:47 AM. Reason : D's probably "group of deathier" than ours too] 6/12/2014 9:43:34 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
I knew someone "who follows soccer" would immediately say that. I was just putting it out there.
Do you think Chile's opponents our tougher than ours?
[Edited on June 12, 2014 at 9:50 AM. Reason : are] 6/12/2014 9:47:32 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Yes. They were both in a World Cup final 4 years ago. 6/12/2014 9:48:03 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Stuck at work but good to have 3 screens. One screen is exclusively reserved for the World Cup for the next month! 6/12/2014 9:50:11 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Our group of death is only the group of death if we dont suck and lose all 3 games. I wouldnt want to be in either group but generally a group of death is one where 3 or all 4 of the teams would advance if in other groups. Based on that alone I would give the nod to the other group until I see how we come out and play on the big stage. Granted I am much more optimistic after the Nigeria showing, but who knows. That's what makes it fun! 6/12/2014 9:52:38 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
I was all set to watch the opening game today. Then I got a meeting notice for a MANDATORY meeting at 3pm. wtf people come on. 6/12/2014 10:34:53 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/police-and-world-cup-protesters-clash-in-brazil/13723516/ 6/12/2014 11:53:50 AM |
SPUD Veteran 237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yes. They were both in a World Cup final 4 years ago." |
Determining strength of the group like this is pretty much as silly as using FIFA rankings. I don't see why someone is a "biased American" for thinking G is the toughest. But, your point stands that B and D are just as, if not more, difficult than ours.6/12/2014 12:04:08 PM |
jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Then I got a meeting notice for a MANDATORY meeting at 3pm" |
Doesn't the actual game start at 4?6/12/2014 12:08:22 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Oh yeah, it's all subjective. Past success in recent big tournaments is a better indicator of quality than some ranking system imo. That's not the only reason I think that's a tougher group either. I think South American teams are a tougher draw if all other things are equal which is why I'd rather face a Portugal or Ghana than Chile. A "Group of Death" to me is when there are more than 2 teams that would have a chance to advance from any other group. I think Chile/Netherlands/Spain and Italy/England/Uruguay qualify more than any combo of Germany + other 3 teams.
All I meant by the "biased American" comment was that other countries are not using "Group of Death" to describe our group.
[Edited on June 12, 2014 at 12:15 PM. Reason : honestly I'm tired of hearing that phrase anyway. WC's are tough, in general as we saw in 2010] 6/12/2014 12:13:42 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Doesn't the actual game start at 4? " |
As far as I know all the games are at 12,3,6,9 EST at least as far as TV goes not sure on exact kickoff time6/12/2014 12:22:17 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
Today's begins at 4 Eastern 6/12/2014 12:23:04 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Hope my dvr box is setup right then as it said it starts at 3 haha. I did set it to record 1 hr past the end of it though for safety measures so I guess Ill be ok.
Either way I cant watch it till about 8 pm tonight
[Edited on June 12, 2014 at 12:32 PM. Reason : .] 6/12/2014 12:29:24 PM |
SPUD Veteran 237 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ Yeah, agreed - all subjective. I guess I see G as having no easy outs (on paper) - where Australia and CR are seen as easy outs in the other two. Not true, of course, bc like you said WCs are crazy and there really aren't easy Wins - certain teams will surprise - I'm hoping CR is one of those teams. 6/12/2014 12:45:13 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
we saw how tough Costa Rica can be in WCQ's. I would have given them more of a shot to wreak havoc in that group if Saborio hadn't gotten hurt 6/12/2014 12:49:41 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
boss it out today - going to pick up baby from daycare at 3:45 and be ready to watch by 4 6/12/2014 12:57:22 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Doesn't the actual game start at 4?" |
It's the type of meeting that is supposed to only last an hour but will probably last three hours. I'll have my phone with me though so if needed I'll just watch it without sound under the table.6/12/2014 1:09:41 PM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
hot chick in the crowd camera is working fine during this opening ceremony. 6/12/2014 2:13:21 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
worst opening ceremony ever? 6/12/2014 2:22:37 PM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know about worst ever, but it certainly does suck. 6/12/2014 2:32:47 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Pitbull had some sweet loafers tho 6/12/2014 2:41:06 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Over or under 3.5 blatant dives by Naymar in the first half? 6/12/2014 3:24:04 PM |
LastInACC All American 1843 Posts user info edit post |
I'm going to stop working. I still have 4 hours to go. Whatever. 6/12/2014 3:54:10 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
This streaming anywhere other than Watch ESPN? I have DTV but am at work 6/12/2014 3:59:36 PM |