dmspack oh we back 25533 Posts user info edit post |
run game should be v strong (again) this year. a healthy Dayes, Gallaspy, Frasier...plus JaySam and Hines can certainly carry it too, but aren't really traditional RBs.
ecu game announced as a noon kick on ESPNU
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HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
At least we have basketball to look forward to this year. 6/15/2016 2:01:25 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
6/15/2016 2:21:05 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Priceless.
Quote : | "Dave Doeren has yet to actually beat a power conference team that finished with a winning record." |
Were we the reason any team didn't finish with a winning record?6/15/2016 5:34:45 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25533 Posts user info edit post |
I think when we beat UNC in Chapel Hill two years ago they finished 6-6 and lost the bowl to go 6-7, right? there may be one or two other examples as well. 6/15/2016 5:49:39 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
its because we play in a lopsided division where you're either beating a team without a winning record, or your beating a top 10 team in the country. 6/15/2016 5:49:39 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
If finley is the qb, we arent winning 7 games. 6/15/2016 10:22:57 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Then there's the NC State-centric way of looking at the schedule. The Wolfpack begin with four teams projected 74th or worse before taking on eight straight projected top-50 opponents. Recent trends suggest a 4-0 start followed by eight straight losses." |
LOL6/15/2016 11:29:38 PM |
Kickstand All American 11595 Posts user info edit post |
^ haha
I can't wait to find out where my season tickets are located. 6/16/2016 12:07:55 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=51&v=GHZX7PzuoaI
Pack bringing back the mike ocain nSc this season 6/22/2016 8:44:20 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
6/22/2016 8:50:29 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
Easily the best helmets we've ever had. So tight. 6/22/2016 9:26:10 PM |
slckwill577 All American 757 Posts user info edit post |
Those uniforms are sweet. They've done a really good job with the last few sets of alternates. 6/22/2016 9:46:52 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
lol 6/22/2016 10:07:16 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25533 Posts user info edit post |
i prefer the block s logo to the diamond s...but those do look sharp. 6/23/2016 7:24:55 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
I'd love to see the red helmet with the diamond logo and the silver pants we used that one year too 6/23/2016 7:47:02 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
should bring back a different era uniform for every home game next season. 6/23/2016 8:59:22 PM |
jsdail All American 3260 Posts user info edit post |
those throwback jerseys look better to me than the normal ones we wear. Love that helmet. 6/24/2016 10:23:15 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Still a little worried that those new uniforms/helmets are going to be the best thing we put on the field this year.
All comes down to finding just an above-average QB. 6/24/2016 3:01:25 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
I wish we still had the diamond S. 6/24/2016 3:09:50 PM |
themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
^ I think it's more dependent on our O-Line. Any QB can be decent with a great running game. We have the horses to carry the ball, if the line can block. see cowboys 2014/2015 6/24/2016 3:11:28 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "6/25 - 21 freshmen have enrolled at NC State, plus transfers Scelfo and Finley. Kollin Byers is the only member of the 2016 recruiting class who has not yet enrolled. He is supposed to enroll in August." |
6/28/2016 2:36:31 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
I heard he was greyshirting, enrolling in January. 6/28/2016 5:01:52 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/wolfpack-s-samuels-aims-to-repeat-do-everything-all-acc-run/15821458/ 7/1/2016 3:36:23 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Doeren makes me wish I didn't like football so much. It's been almost an entire decade of unwatchable, poorly coached football. TOB and DD killed this program, it's going to take a miracle to get us back in the top 25 again.
At least our uniforms will look neat. 7/1/2016 3:47:27 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
7/1/2016 3:59:50 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
Lol. The Amato teams post-Rivers were the poorly coached teams. I love the guy, but those last few years were awful to watch. 7/1/2016 6:05:58 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
The last couple years of Chuck weren't great either, but I'd take those teams over the product in the field now. 7/1/2016 9:40:23 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "After Philip Rivers graduated and left for the NFL, Amato's NC State teams finished 5–6 in 2004, 7–5 in 2005, and 3–9 in 2006." |
Yea so much better.7/1/2016 10:01:33 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Like i said, not great. Still, you can't really say that the program has been better under O'Brien or Doeren.
Our recruiting classes are consistently in the 40th ranked range nationally, we're losing in state recruits to UNC just about every time, and we look unprepared on a regular basis.
2010 is the last time we looked like a competent football team, and that was only because we had an NFL star as our QB.
I wish to hell there were signs that we would be competitive this year, but there just aren't any. Is there any real reason to think this team can win more than 4-5 games this season? I'm just not seeing it. 7 out of 12 at home and it's still looking pretty dismal. I'll happily wager 5 $lafta bucks that we go under 6 wins.
vs. William and Mary @ ECU vs. Old Dominion vs. Wake Forest vs. Notre Dame @ Clemson @ Louisville vs. BC vs. FSU @ Syracus vs. Miami @UNC 7/1/2016 10:54:50 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
We will start 4-0 for sure and what do you know that i dont that makes you think cuse or bc have a chance against us? That seems like 6 solid wins right there. Everything else we should lose so it will be really exciting if we even pick off one of those wins 7/2/2016 2:19:39 AM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty good chance we lose at either @ecu or @syracuse. What have you seen that makes you confident that winning either of those is a given? We definitely should win on the road against the Pirates but we've got a new QB and new O-line so any early road game will be a test and it's going to be a hostile environment.
@syracuse and vs. BC should be wins, but again, hardly gimmies. BC had a really good defense last year and a shit offense. It'll be less shit this year. Syracuse will be a competent team this year and is looking at the same .500 record were hoping to have. Wake Forest was trash last year but we're certainly capable of losing to them.
vs. William and Mary - W @ ECU - ?, should be a win vs. Old Dominion - W vs. Wake Forest - W vs. Notre Dame - L @ Clemson - L @ Louisville - L vs. BC - W vs. FSU - L @ Syracuse -? vs. Miami - L @UNC - L
We look like a 4-6 win team to me, not a 7 win team with that schedule. 7/2/2016 2:57:09 AM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
The only reason the amato years post rivers sucked was because we had no qb. Our defenses were still mostly great, they were just on the field 80% of the game.
If amato had thought to play Russell, he'd still be our coach today 7/2/2016 8:53:28 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
vs. William and Mary - W @ ECU - W vs. Old Dominion - W vs. Wake Forest - W
promising start at 4-0!
vs. Notre Dame - L (close one) @ Clemson - L @ Louisville - L vs. BC - W vs. FSU - L (ugly) @ Syracuse - W vs. Miami - L @UNC - L (barring major injuries to UNC, ugly, really ugly, like 45-10)
I see them going 6-6 7/2/2016 9:09:38 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
^ Nailed it. 7/2/2016 11:45:17 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If amato had thought to play Russell, he'd still be our coach today" |
so he should have started a high school senior at quarterback? really would have been thinking outside the box there7/3/2016 12:10:19 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Dunno why everybody thinks @ECU is an easy win 7/3/2016 12:43:53 AM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Because it's easy to look down at ECU. If we weren't starting a brand new QB I wouldn't be as worried. It's definitely a 50/50 game. 7/3/2016 1:53:22 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
Because ecu sucks, that's why. 7/3/2016 7:17:54 AM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
You can throw records and ability out the windows when we play ecu or unc or duke or wake. Those games are always very difficult because of the rivalry nature of them.
That ecu game is going to be very very tough. Mid call it 50/50 also.
[Edited on July 3, 2016 at 1:36 PM. Reason : Those] 7/3/2016 1:35:41 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
ECU just fired their coach for a guy everyone thinks was a bad hire right?
I wouldn't be surprised if ecu had an even more down year this year. 7/3/2016 1:42:32 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think of ecu as a rival. Partly because we have 3 in state teams in conference and partly because eastern nc sucks. 7/3/2016 2:27:22 PM |
themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
While I enjoy the EZU game, we really have no need for it & even less need for a game in Greenville. If we win, "ohh it's just EZU"; if we lose, "ARRRG" for a year 7/3/2016 7:15:48 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
It's good for in state recruiting. Back when we weren't competing for the same guys as them we could easily leave them off the schedule. Now it's almost a must. 7/3/2016 7:23:40 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
^ What? 7/3/2016 7:34:38 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah. That's pretty damn hilarious. 7/3/2016 8:17:07 PM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Dunno why everybody thinks @ECU is an easy win" |
+1
Quote : | "I don't think of ecu as a rival." |
You sound like those carolina douches who try and act like we're not their rival. Pretty sure we're their +1 football rival, plus it's at their house, plus we don't have the best track record against them.
Quote : | "While I enjoy the EZU game, we really have no need for it & even less need for a game in Greenville. If we win, "ohh it's just EZU"; if we lose, "ARRRG" for a year" |
Weak.7/3/2016 8:57:55 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Why is the recruiting thing funny to you? We're currently ranked 45th nationally for our 2017 class, they're 65th. UNC has dominates us in state and we're going after a lot of 2-3 star guys in state, so is ECU. If we lose to them it's going to hurt us. If we win it will help. Why the hell else would the coaching staff want this game?
I know it's hard to admit, but we're a middle to bottom tier ACC football program. We've had less overall success recently than just about anybody except BC and Wake. This is a really important year.
http://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/RecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=highschool&State=NC
Go through the list, just about all of the guys on there that we are actively recruiting are also being recruited by ECU.
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rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
^^I hate ECU almost as much as duke and unc, but the thing that makes me say they aren't our rival, is I would prefer to NEVER play them.
And he is right, we get no benefit from playing them. 7/3/2016 10:37:57 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, it would be great if we didn't play them, but we do. And we'll continue playing them regularly. If you think the fact that they've won the last 2 against us doesn't matter for in-state recruiting them you're a crazy person.
We even have a stupid little rivalry trophy with them, so hoping not to have to play the game is fruitless. It doesn't really help us with SOS rankings, it's only function is to showcase our program vs. theirs for recruiting. 7/3/2016 11:50:19 PM |