raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
so even though I had the smp clients installed, I didn't pass the -smp arguement during the configuration on my windows boxes. (one is quad core, one is dual core).
SO, I paid attention to the high performance install guide, went thru it step by step, and got those clients configured as smp.
So at least that will help some. (had to use the big option along with the smp option). 9/26/2010 6:34:53 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
oh, and page 80
And here's an updated version of the top post:
Support Cancer Research and the NCSU Wolfpack With Your Computer's Spare Time!
What Is It? Essentially Folding@Home (http://folding.stanford.edu/) uses your unused CPU cycles to model how proteins fold in the human body. The misfolding of proteins is often involved in well known diseases, such as Alzheimer’s, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, and Parkinson’s disease. Because this endeavor requires massive amounts of computing power, their project uses spare CPU time on computers that would otherwise sit idle in homes and businesses across the world. Here at North Carolina State University, we have formed this team in order to donate our spare CPU time to help this important endeavor.
The North Carolina State University (http://ncsufolding.syprus.com) Folding@Home Team (Team # 59) was one of the first teams to join the Folding@Home project, and was the very first University-based team to join. We are currently ranked in the top 100 in the world and are ramping up production in an effort to make it into the Top 50. We are all dedicated to doing our part to help end some of these terrible diseases, and we would appreciate the company of anyone who would like to help.
All it takes is the installation of a small piece of software and your computer will start completing Work Units for the project and the team. The Folding@Home process runs at the lowest possible priority so you can run it 24X7 without slowing down your computer or interfering with your everyday computing tasks. If you have a Sony PS3 Game Console you can also run Folding@Home (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-PS3) on it with great results.
How Can I Help?
Go to http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download,download and install the software. Our Team Number is 59.
Click here - http://ncsufolding.syprus.com/?page_id=4 for more detailed installation instructions.
Windows Computers: We recommend using the "text-only console” client for most windows computers. If you have a dual/quad/etc core processor, be sure to install and run the SMP client to get you and the team far more points than the standard console client (but sometimes it has problems starting as a service, so you might have to restart the client manually or automatically via startup folder when your computer restarts). In general, its best to stay away from the graphical clients. If you have a Pentium 4 with Hyperthreading, its best to turn off Hyperthreading in the BIOS if you know how. Feel free to post in this thread with any questions. Mac and Linux Computers: There are both "text-only" consoles and SMP clients for Linux and Macintosh computers too! If you have a dual/quad/etc core processor be sure to run the SMP client as you'll get far more points than the text-only client. But the text-only clients also help out too if you only have single-core processors.
PS3: PS3s currently provide over 60% of the processing power in the Folding@home network and are capable of producing many points for the team. If you have PS3 system version 1.6 or later, you will see a Folding@Home icon in the Network column of the XMB (PS3 Networking menu). Just click on the icon and that's it. If you don't have 1.6 or later, perform a system upgrade. Make sure to use Team #59!
The more computers and PS3s you run the clients on, the more points your username and the NCSU team earns! Install as many clients as you can and watch your username/team progress at the stats page - http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=59
Links
Team Links: NCSU F@H Team Website: http://ncsufolding.syprus.com NCSU F@H Team Discussion: http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=118820 NCSU F@H Team Facebook Group: http://ncst.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5012521644
F@H Links: F@H Project Homepage: http://folding.stanford.edu/ F@H Official Forums: http://foldingforum.org/ F@H Wikipedia Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding@home F@H Wiki Site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding@home Stats: Stats1: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=59 Stats2: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Stats Monitor your production: http://fahmon.net Compare your production with other users: http://fahinfo.org
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aaronburro Sup, B 53062 Posts user info edit post |
why are you saying to stay away from the GPU clients? 12/5/2010 12:52:21 AM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
I personally am not saying this, just reposting the original post info. 12/5/2010 9:19:26 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53062 Posts user info edit post |
anybody know who P_Scott is? 12/5/2010 12:49:50 PM |
wwwebsurfer All American 10217 Posts user info edit post |
my guess is Dr. Stephen Scott - High Performance Computing Researcher at NCSU.
If he has access to all of the Beowulf clusters at NCSU he could crank out some serious numbers.
Quote : | "henry2 IBM Blade Center Linux Cluster, henry2, 866 dual Xeon compute nodes with Intel Xeon Processors (mix of single, dual, and quad core), 2-3GB per core distributed memory, dual gigabit Ethernet interconnects
[b]sam]/b] Intel/IBM Blade Center Linux Cluster, sam, 1000 dual Xeon compute nodes with two 3.0GHz Intel Irwindale processors and 4GB distributed memory per node, dual gigabit Ethernet interconnects. " |
I thought there was also a PAMS and a EOS HPC; but maybe they were deprecated.
[Edited on December 5, 2010 at 2:45 PM. Reason : more info from HPC homepage]12/5/2010 2:40:49 PM |
FenderFreek All American 2805 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why are you saying to stay away from the GPU clients?" |
It's not saying to avoid GPU clients, it's saying to avoid the clients that have a GUI.12/7/2010 12:42:39 PM |
J33Pownr Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
The GUI clients are fine unless your displaying the protein while folding. Which I am sure is what FenderFreek was talking about. The display uses half of your gpu folding resources so it kind of defeats the purpose of trying to get the highest ppd. 12/8/2010 7:34:36 AM |
P_Scott New Recruit 1 Posts user info edit post |
Well, I spent the $5 to sign up. No I am not Dr. Scott; I am alumni, EE, 70's. Somehow we need to crank up the ppd. A $300 GPU or $600 i7 should be affordable for the cause. Let's get with it and let me know how I could help. Now you know - 12/12/2010 2:45:32 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52838 Posts user info edit post |
Good for you; glad you're involved and still tracking the university stuff.
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I'm about to buy a new iMac...I'll get in on this when I do. My little Atom-processor netbook probably doesn't have enough grunt to even make it worthwhile...also, if I did get the netbook in on this, is it tough to participate with Linux (Ubuntu)? 4/28/2011 5:45:31 PM |
jcdomini Veteran 376 Posts user info edit post |
I might get in on this once I get back to my desktop - I've got a brand-spanking-new home-built desktop w/ an AMD Phenom II Quad Cord 3.2GHz CPU, so hopefully I can put a dent in some stuff having this run in the background!
Wonder if we can pull our ranking back up again? 4/28/2011 11:45:23 PM |
jcdomini Veteran 376 Posts user info edit post |
So I got started and, because I'm using the SMP client, I've been churning away at large jobs. I just finished one that was 10 million steps, but only gave me 242 points... Is it just the case that if you don't fully dedicate a machine to large jobs, you don't get all that many points because it takes several hours to finish a job otherwise?
Might have to wait until cooler weather to really get moving at this at any significant pace, as having a quad core running 100% continuously really heats up the room. 4/30/2011 1:20:33 AM |
J33Pownr Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
Only getting 242 points sounds like it was only using one core. If that is the case, try adding the tag -smp 4. If it was using all the cores I am not sure why its like that. Maybe you need to get a passkey to get into the bonus point system stanford setup. With the bonus points it does matter how fast you can chugg out a Work Unit.
Also how did you set up the folding program? The stand alone client with the command prompt setup? If so, there is an easier way that a guy on the EVGA team came up with. Maybe that will fix your issue. It is called FAH GPU Tracker V2 and is an exe file that can setup both cpu (Single Instance or SMP) and multi gpu folding. I tried it this weekend and its really easy. http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=219556 5/2/2011 7:31:48 AM |
jcdomini Veteran 376 Posts user info edit post |
I'll take a look into that - I was running solid on all four cores, but I haven't done any GPU runs yet, so hopefully that'll help me set it up. It was through the command prompt interface, so I don't know if that affected it or not. I just figured that at this rate, with a decent setup, I'd only be making ~1200 ppd if I ran this continuously (which I can't with the summer heat on it's way ), and that just isn't making any sense. 5/2/2011 9:53:39 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Just FYI, I'm cranking out 7k/24hours with an Core i5-2500K and a 9800GX2
using a passkey on both smp & gpu clients
[Edited on May 2, 2011 at 11:32 PM. Reason : ,] 5/2/2011 11:31:40 PM |
jcdomini Veteran 376 Posts user info edit post |
I'm running an AMD Phenom II x4 955 3.2Ghz quad core + ATI HD5750, so I certainly imagine I can bump my numbers by a good amount, but I just have to tweak things correctly. How do you go about the passkey process? Or what's involved in getting that to work? 5/3/2011 12:26:07 AM |
J33Pownr Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
Get a passkey here. http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/FAQ-passkey.html It takes ten submitted work units to start getting the bonuses. If you have a passkey on your gpu, it will use those units toward your 10 even though at this time the gpu client doesnt have bonus system. To input the passkey just paste it into the FAH GPU Tracker V2 in the client setup. This is why the tracker is king. Otherwise you will have to resetup the client with -configonly callout or edit config text files.
As for points, I found a guy that has a Phenom II 940 BE at 3.5GHz and HFM reports between 6000-7000 ppd. And another guy with a hd5770 at 3200ppd. You should be close to those numbers at around 8000ppd total if running 24/7.
Sadly ATI is not as optimized at folding as nvidia is. My gtx275 gets an unfair 9000ppd which is more than ATI's dual core $750 hd6990.
[Edited on May 3, 2011 at 12:43 PM. Reason : ] 5/3/2011 12:33:31 PM |
Placidus Veteran 205 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I am thinking I am only using one core as well instead of both cores. I am thinking I didn't setup the smp correctly. Is there a way to verify that you are using both cores? 5/4/2011 8:34:02 PM |
J33Pownr Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
Just look in windows task manager to see how many cores (hyperthreaded intel cores count too) are maxed out. Folding runs your cpu at 100%. 5/6/2011 7:15:36 AM |
Placidus Veteran 205 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I noticed that, I figured I may have installed the program incorrectly, but computer is just folding slower than expected. Thanks for you help though.
[Edited on May 6, 2011 at 7:56 PM. Reason : thanks] 5/6/2011 7:56:13 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53062 Posts user info edit post |
does the SMP client offer some kind of multiplier? I did a little benchmarking on my system, which is plenty powerful, and it will complete 1 WU in 12-13 days, giving me 2000 points. If I just run 8 normal clients, I'll get 2000 points in a day. seems pretty crazy. I think I've got the SMP client set up right, as it's certainly maxing out my processor cores... 5/22/2011 4:06:35 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
Currently I only have it running on my PS3. 5/22/2011 5:54:20 PM |
Placidus Veteran 205 Posts user info edit post |
hey aaronburro, here is the link for how the points are determined.
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-Points#ntoc9 5/23/2011 8:20:12 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51911 Posts user info edit post |
bomp 6/27/2011 12:33:21 PM |
GraniteBalls Aging fast 12262 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on June 27, 2011 at 1:06 PM. Reason : nvm]
6/27/2011 1:05:59 PM |
dannydigtl All American 18302 Posts user info edit post |
i just started up the new quad core i7 MBP.
is there anyway to get a real time quantification of processing power or speed, etc? 6/27/2011 7:40:49 PM |
wwwebsurfer All American 10217 Posts user info edit post |
it sucks that nvidia cards rule the folding charts and ati cards rule the bitcoin charts. I'd like the option to do both, but that doesn't look like you can really optimize for both... 6/28/2011 12:14:28 AM |
J33Pownr Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "is there anyway to get a real time quantification of processing power or speed, etc?" |
You can run LinPack stress test(LinX/IBT) to see how many GIGAFLOPS you throwin out. examples singlecore @ 2 GHz:2X4=8 GIGAFLOPS Dualcore @ 3 GHz:3X8=24 GIGAFLOPS quadcore @ 4 GHz:4X16=64 GIGAFLOPS sixcore @ 4 GHz:4X24=96 GIGAFLOPS Note that the above values are only the upper limits.The actual value we get in LinPack is somewhat lower due to the os overhead,LinPack bookkeeping & because Linpack cannot keep the CPU execution units busy all the time.
BACK TO FOLDING: With the i7 series at 3.8Ghz or higher folding bigadv with a passkey is suggested. Any i7 should be over 20,000ppd with that overclock. The TPF (time per frame) on a 2685 WU will be about 45min at 3.8Ghz on 7of 8 cores. This roughly equates to 3.125 days crunching and 10min to upload back to stanford. This WU will give a total point score of 63684.85 points or 20333.97ppd. http://linuxforge.net/bonuscalc2.php
Quote : | "it sucks that nvidia cards rule the folding charts and ati cards rule the bitcoin charts. " |
As of late all I have are nvidia cards since I have been folding for a while and catering to nvidia's folding power. I wish I had a few 5830s to really bring home the bitcoin. Though my two gtx465s net roughly 92Mh/s each, one 5830 overclocked can muster 300Mh/s.
[Edited on June 28, 2011 at 8:48 AM. Reason : link]6/28/2011 8:47:01 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone know how many PPD a Core i5-2500K stock gets? 6/28/2011 11:15:32 AM |
J33Pownr Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
According to a guy on the evga folding forums, about 6000ppd stock (3.3Ghz) and 11000ppd at 4Ghz. I think 5000ppd is a good estimate and anything over that is gravy.
BTW why are you not overclocking it? Most will do 4Ghz on stock voltage. 6/28/2011 12:53:17 PM |
wwwebsurfer All American 10217 Posts user info edit post |
^^those are awesome processors. Outpace about 90% of the i7's 6/28/2011 1:01:07 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
^^I am overclocking it, I was just asking for comparison. I'm getting 6000 PPD just from my 3-year old 9800GX2 GPU
[Edited on June 28, 2011 at 3:03 PM. Reason : /] 6/28/2011 3:03:26 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
^^In the processor thread:
Quote : | "The K series is freaking awesome. The i5-2500K outpaces about 80% of the i7's" |
Which is it!!! lol6/28/2011 3:17:05 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Does anyone still do this? 4/23/2014 10:14:32 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Apparently - http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=59 4/23/2014 10:54:57 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
hehe I'm #69. I haven't in years. 4/24/2014 11:11:00 AM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
Who's putting up 2.5+ million points per week? 4/24/2014 11:31:45 AM |
KRUZNBY All American 2655 Posts user info edit post |
I founded the group and have not done it in several years. 4/24/2014 12:27:53 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
it looks like they never imaged the computer i had at my last job, because it's still cranking out 4/24/2014 3:32:49 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha that's hilarious. 4/24/2014 3:34:55 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Do any of you plan on starting again? Kruznby?
I saw a lot of other ones I thought were cooler. Such as ABC@HOME 4/24/2014 4:08:50 PM |
KRUZNBY All American 2655 Posts user info edit post |
I really have no interest in these projects anymore. Desktops are becoming a thing of the past and I don't want to run these on laptops either. 4/27/2014 8:42:24 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Not to mention the added cost of electricity and wear/tear on my desktop components shortening their lifespan probably by half due to the added heat. I figured at the peak I was spending $10-$20 a month on folding with no return on investment. Now if I could write that off as a charitable donation... maybe.
I figure more people are mining for bitcoins vs. folding proteins nowadays.
[Edited on April 27, 2014 at 8:01 PM. Reason : .] 4/27/2014 8:00:43 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone still do this? 9/6/2018 3:17:29 PM |
AVON All American 4770 Posts user info edit post |
https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/59 Appears so 9/8/2018 3:56:01 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Active CPUs within 50 days 0" |
9/8/2018 5:46:25 PM |
AVON All American 4770 Posts user info edit post |
I saw the
Quote : | "Date of last work unit 2018-09-09 04:45:15" |
and figured that meant someone was doing something. Still ranked 198 of 228,0679/9/2018 6:47:52 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
They should develop a mobile client to use extra cell phone cpu cycles while on wifi. 9/28/2018 11:59:17 AM |
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gnsp
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GNSP
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