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"So is it Lowe's fault that Costner traveled there a minute ago? Is it his fault that costner took that 3 and that we've gone cold for the last few minutes?"

God I hate these fucking comments.

1/27/2009 11:21:14 PM

sorry, my sarcasm wasn't directed at you...I can't stand a lot of the comments in this thread.

1/27/2009 11:49:47 PM

still credible

1/28/2009 12:11:55 AM

Pretty good game from Sid even with our lack of talent.

Positives: 1) Turnovers way the fuck down 2) Good PG play (looked like early 2007-08 season Degand) 3) Hustle and defense all night 4) Fells playing like he is capable 5) Great shot selection

Negatives: 1) Horner still playing over Smith, he only had 3 fouls at the end so don't give me that. 2) A walk-on playing in overtime. I like Simon. He hustles more than anyone, but he is not a threat to score and is too foul prone on D. 3) Rebounding. Holy shit 41-26 we were lucky we weren't blown out.

1/28/2009 12:29:04 AM

on the rebounding

Miami is like 8th in the country as far as the rebounding margin goes

They have been killing it


as far as the other negatives.... meh

[Edited on January 28, 2009 at 12:38 AM. Reason : ASDF]

1/28/2009 12:38:03 AM

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"Good PG play (looked like early 2007-08 season Degand)"

cue simonn talking about how Degand is terrible even though he is obviously our best option at PG right now (Mays is good for a spark off the bench, but is still very inconsistent)

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"2) A walk-on playing in overtime. I like Simon. He hustles more than anyone, but he is not a threat to score and is too foul prone on D."

I agree completely, Simon Harris should have not played in OT, he is a liability on Offense and on D he is like a bull in a china shop

[Edited on January 28, 2009 at 12:47 AM. Reason : .]

1/28/2009 12:46:13 AM

hey look, i was right

[Edited on January 28, 2009 at 12:50 AM. Reason : lock this shit.]

1/28/2009 12:49:01 AM

LOL so now we have won 2 ACC games and the thread should be locked?

What exactly is so bad about discussing Sid's coaching?

When we win people come in here and say see fuck you Sid's a good coach like we want the team to lose.

1/28/2009 12:54:16 AM

harris totally shut down thomas, something smith was not even close to doing

1/28/2009 12:54:56 AM

^^cause were tired of hearing the same shit regurgitated over and over again


The horse has been beat to death


so lock this shit up

1/28/2009 12:57:02 AM

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"cue simonn talking about how Degand is terrible even though he is obviously our best option at PG right now (Mays is good for a spark off the bench, but is still very inconsistent)"

farnold had a great game. i loved it.

but don't act like this is solid proof that he's an awesome pg and i've been wrong after all of the terrible performances he's had.

1/28/2009 1:05:02 AM

^^exactly

there is no fucking "discussing" Sid's coaching

its just fuckfaces bashing him and then people defending him

all with stupid, tired fucking arguments

sweet lord, and people complaining that they don't want to be in the bottom of the ACC

WELL, FUCKING SORRY, BUT WE'RE A BOTTOM THIRD OF THE ACC TEAM

THEMS THE FUCKING FACTS, FOLKS

[Edited on January 28, 2009 at 1:05 AM. Reason : ^^]

1/28/2009 1:05:18 AM

I dunno.. UMD, GT, UVA...just need one more to finish below us to be "middle third"

1/28/2009 1:10:54 AM

yeah, actually, I retract that statement, maybe not the bottom third.

shit, I don't know, with this team, if they bring it every night, who knows what they could do.

But I know this thread is fucking retarded. The fact that people are watching this man's credibility is completely out of control.

ITS SIDNEY LOWE

SWEET LORD JESUS

1/28/2009 1:32:29 AM

^^^^ I didn't see most of the game but I saw Degand fouling the shit outta McClinton for 3 and almost costing us the game.

1/28/2009 1:54:30 AM

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"farnold had a great game. i loved it. but don't act like this is solid proof that he's an awesome pg and i've been wrong after all of the terrible performances he's had."

No one is saying anything about him being an awesome pg, all I said was that he is obviously our best option at PG right now. When he was struggling earlier in the season you acted like he was and always had been terrible, when the reality of the matter was that he wasn't anywhere near fully recovered from his injury and that was the main culprit for his poor performance. He was solid (if unspectacular) for us before his injury last season, and will be so for us again this season provided that he stays healthy.

1/28/2009 2:06:01 AM

up until this game he was and always had been terrible. and it wasn't his knee either, it was him just doing stupid shit like going shoulder first into a defender in the lane and losing the ball w/ the clock running out in a one possession game. that has nothing to do w/ a bad knee.

1/28/2009 7:32:59 AM

Farnold was stationary up and down mcclinton jumped on him they called the foul. It was less of a foul than the no call that happened to costner to start the half. The refs did try their best to screw us in the second half. Lock the thread.

1/28/2009 7:57:02 AM

im not sure what else lowe needs to do to prove himself. Great recruiting, great representation of the university, great in game coach, great game plans.


LOCK THIS STUPID SHIT

1/28/2009 10:14:10 AM

^^^you're obviously forgetting the old spice classic

1/28/2009 10:16:16 AM

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"Farnold was stationary up and down mcclinton jumped on him they called the foul."

no...he actually fouled him pretty good. Jumped through the screen right into mcclinton when there were two other state players right beside him.

1/28/2009 10:16:27 AM

didnt grant win the Old Spice classic by pulling a 3pt McClinton-esque foul shot?

1/28/2009 10:31:49 AM

farnold dribbled a ball off of his foot in the backcourt at the oldspice classic.

1/28/2009 10:37:06 AM

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"up until this game he was and always had been terrible. and it wasn't his knee either, it was him just doing stupid shit like going shoulder first into a defender in the lane and losing the ball w/ the clock running out in a one possession game. that has nothing to do w/ a bad knee."

You clearly have never had a bad knee.

1/28/2009 10:41:43 AM

I was on that side of the arena 10 rows back from the floor trust me Farnolds foul was more of a no call than the no call of the costner three at the beginning of the half.

1/28/2009 10:42:17 AM

bad knees make you throw away inbounds passes (which he's done plenty of)?

1/28/2009 10:42:25 AM

yeah I had a bum ankle sophmore year in college and I'd go play pickup ball and shoot 3's from half court and not hit the rim.

I also would let good passes hit me in the hands only to have it glance off and go out of bounds.

1/28/2009 11:00:10 AM

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"m not sure what else lowe needs to do to prove himself. Great recruiting, great representation of the university, great in game coach, great game plans."

It was a good win. I'll give credit where credit is due.

I'm looking for consistency out of this team. We'll see how the next few games go. I'm not drinking the Lowe Kool-aid yet.

1/28/2009 11:02:13 AM

I think Simon Harris played great in OT. he brings a ton of hustle to the floor and he shut down thomas which is something no one else could do the whole night.

1/28/2009 11:06:37 AM

can we just stop with the argument that we should give Lowe a wide berth because he won a championship here as a player in 83? That has ZERO to do with his ability to be head coach and should not automatically be a pass to staying the head coach regardless of results.

If that criteria was all it took, Dohertey would still be coaching down the road.

1/28/2009 11:08:58 AM

I believe that our lack of consistency comes from our flat footed offense. We are terrible about moving without the ball. Our lack of point guard experience/skill might have some effect on developing the offense, but jeez the other four could move without the basketball. There is no movement. Last night, most of our good plays came from a failure by miami on defense, not a good State offensive play. From not moving without the basketball and developing plays we limit the opportunity to find good high percentage shots, thus we loose the games that we are not completely on FIRE from behind the arc. Also more movement would allow for a better opportunity at offensive rebounds.

We play good defense.

1/28/2009 11:11:24 AM

^^The Doh firing was considered pretty classless by most people outside of the rabid holes. I remember specifically TWW laughing at how classless it was. Also he was under performing with at least 3 mcdaa's. No respect for your National Championship winning alum?? That is really sad.

[Edited on January 28, 2009 at 11:16 AM. Reason : adsfas]

1/28/2009 11:16:02 AM

We played well last night. But is anyone else bothered by the fact that:

1) we made 14-26, 53% from 3
2) Fells had a career night.
3) Degand had 7 assists and only 2 TOs
4) Were leading by 19 at the start of the 2nd half

and we almost lost that game to a mediocre UM team?

Thank goodness for Mays or there would have been an epic meltdown on here.

1/28/2009 11:21:13 AM

^Yes.....but that's gonna start an argument. OMG WE WON STFU.

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"^^The Doh firing was considered pretty classless by most people outside of the rabid holes. I remember specifically TWW laughing at how classless it was. Also he was under performing with at least 3 mcdaa's. No respect for your National Championship winning alum?? That is really sad."

How did UNC do after they fired Doh?

1/28/2009 11:30:27 AM

I think we've been over that dipshits.

[Edited on January 28, 2009 at 11:31 AM. Reason : ^,^^]

1/28/2009 11:30:40 AM

UM was ranked this season. They have two excellent players (McClinton and Collins) and are a much more athletic team than we are. I wouldn't call them mediocre at all.

1/28/2009 11:33:12 AM

^^^

Unfortunately, we don't have an alum out there coaching a final four team and just dieing so hard to get here that he "couldn't give a shit about (NC State) right now"

1/28/2009 11:53:05 AM

this thread is going to take a gigantic turn for the worse or the better on Saturday.

Either epic bitching or epic praise.

1/28/2009 12:20:37 PM

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"4) Were leading by 19 at the start of the 2nd half"

This is Lowe in a nutshell. How can anyone be happy with the win last night? You have a commanding lead going into the second half and you barely squeak out a win in OT? Yeah...

1/28/2009 12:21:51 PM

man saturday has the potential of getting really ugly.....

1/28/2009 12:29:47 PM

^^ get the fuck out of here, fuck you, suspend, terminate

what the fuck do you want?

fuck, give the guy no credit for any role he had in getting that lead, just rip him for us having to go to OT

goddamn, its assholes like you that give State Fans our State Fans rep.

1/28/2009 12:35:50 PM

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"alright, i just got a whiff of clairvoyance. Sid is going to do what he said and play 8, at most 9 players, with the starters getting a bulk of the minutes. We're going to do the unthinkable and win. and then this thread will be full of asshats saying I Told You So with tons of :roll :roll :roll and then people will bitch about people not enjoying a rare win."

1/28/2009 12:47:50 PM

Quote :

"is anyone else bothered by the fact that: 1) we made 14-26, 53% from 3 2) Fells had a career night. 3) Degand had 7 assists and only 2 TOs 4) Were leading by 19 at the start of the 2nd half and we almost lost that game to a mediocre UM team?"

that was the first thing i said when we got in the car to leave. whatever, i'll take the win regardless.

1/28/2009 12:54:28 PM

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"This is Lowe in a nutshell. How can anyone be happy with the win last night? You have a commanding lead going into the second half and you barely squeak out a win in OT? Yeah..."

Thats college basketball in a nutshell, one the reasons its so great to watch. If every coach that gave up a big lead in college basketball got fired there would be 5 gone every week. Everyone makes runs in college basketball especially when dealing with relatively even teams. What really shows is how a coach deals with a team that is making a run, uses time outs to help stop momentum, etc. I always thought Herb was really bad at that. Lowe is hit or miss.

But to jump on a coach for giving up a lead .. they all do it. It is just a matter of how you refocus your team and get the game back under control.

And for the record I'm 50/50 on Lowe right now. I think he can't coach offense for a damn, but just not sure yet if it is a player issue or his issue. Time will tell.

1/28/2009 1:03:07 PM

Wish we would have put the game out of reach when we could have early in the 2nd half. But a win is a win.

I'm not expecting a win against UNC. I am expecting it to be competitive. If they do to us what we did to them in football, then I will be upset.

1/28/2009 1:16:19 PM

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"I am expecting it to be competitive"

I can't wait to read your comments in here after the game then.

1/28/2009 1:17:10 PM

On the same token we almost came back from a 20 point deficit against BC. Who gives a fuck, we won.



Plus, its not Lowe's fault that we blow 20 point leads...its NC State's fault. We've been doing this shit for the past 10 years. Deal with it. At least we pulled this one out.

[Edited on January 28, 2009 at 1:19 PM. Reason : ]

1/28/2009 1:18:49 PM

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"Plus, its not Lowe's fault that we blow 20 point leads...its NC State's fault."

Wait, I thought it was the players' fault?

1/28/2009 1:29:47 PM

1/28/2009 1:31:09 PM

somebody said it before, first you lose by a little, then you win by a little

time will tell, but if mays and smith continue to develop and costner stays, and we get more production out of thomas and williams, we'll be alright

1/28/2009 1:40:52 PM