ltownking All American 1084 Posts user info edit post |
i am surprised he is commenting.... 9/30/2010 11:04:47 AM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
he is talking like he didn't know anything about blake 9/30/2010 11:05:53 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i dont even know what has happened w/ all this lately, i think that any 'news' is useless till they drop a hammer on something with some sanctions 9/30/2010 11:06:12 AM |
therooster All American 2559 Posts user info edit post |
"i don't know what credit cards that you carry and you don't know what credit cards I carry" 9/30/2010 11:06:42 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
zarzour is a Tide fan you know right? 9/30/2010 11:06:50 AM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
Well, Butch is just making himself out to be so clueless about his program and who he hires... 9/30/2010 11:07:52 AM |
ltownking All American 1084 Posts user info edit post |
so you ask them where they are going but you dont monitor what they do for spring breaks? Du wat? 9/30/2010 11:08:57 AM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
I can't believe the NCAA is singling out UNC for these "infractions".
Everyone has at least one asst coach/head recruiter that has a company credit card issued by their preferred sports agency.
If they are going to be so nitpicky about credit cards, bank wires, and other trivial "compensation arrangements" then they better come down on schools who arrange to have their athletes participate in workouts at NFL training facilities complete with hotel accomodations and airfare paid for by sports agents.
This whole thing just opens up a can of worms on all these gray issues where we can't expect a college coach to be able to nanny his entire program.
I mean who does the ncaa think they are judge, jury, and executioner?
I think we should let impartial observers like the head coach, athletic director, agents directly involved, and the schools honor council decide on appropriate steps to make sure this is handled appropriately.
I think an institution with the integrity of UNC is much more well equipped to make tough decisions than some whipcracking, power hungry regulatory body like the NCAA. 9/30/2010 11:09:55 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
HA talking about background check. So butch did you know that Blake had been investigated for ties with wichard at Oklahoma? 9/30/2010 11:10:07 AM |
therooster All American 2559 Posts user info edit post |
Its still America, People have private lives 9/30/2010 11:10:21 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
the comments at the bottom of this blog are downright hilarious: http://obsfifty.blogspot.com/2010/09/q-with-tom-obrien.html 9/30/2010 11:10:55 AM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "EXHAUSTIVE
BACKGROUND
CHECK" |
9/30/2010 11:11:15 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
rally, troll much? 9/30/2010 11:12:07 AM |
therooster All American 2559 Posts user info edit post |
we have 27,000 students, I can't keep track of all of them! 9/30/2010 11:12:52 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Butch is a bitch that is pretty much all I got from this interview... 9/30/2010 11:13:48 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
lol9/30/2010 11:13:51 AM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
Taylor asks: "butch do you have any comments on the story that broke?"
People have private lives
No one knows what CC someone carries, people have private lives. This was a revelation to me, I don't even know if its true or been proven.
Its clear Taylor this is an issue throughout college football and has been for many years.
Our coaching staff has talked about that many times for the years, telling our players not to get involved, don't except anything.
(Butch is bringing up UFlorida scandals, classy)
We have unbelieveably exhaustive program at UNC to educate them on NCAA rules on benefits, agents, runners, financial planners.
Sometimes you have to assume people are honest, and when they do wrong they get punished.
Hopefully this will be over in a couple of weeks?
Taylor asks about "whereabouts of a player"
Coaches ask players where they are going, how are they gonna get there, do they have a way home etc. We have already implemented measures to improve how we do know, sign out sheets, where are you going, what's a contact number. Its difficult to know where every kid goes all the time.
Taylor asks: "do u feel like u should have known?"
Somethings are impossible to know. Its' America (he actually said this). UNC does an exhaustive background before hiring. Our Compliance office calls NCAA and asks about coaches for prospecitve hire. (I'd love to see if UNC actually did this). (Butch is now talking about the Academic Support System, throwing them under the bus, not a fucking shred of contrition from this guy, almost bothered he even has to talk about it ((understandable)).
taylor now moves to talking about ECU/UNC 9/30/2010 11:14:12 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Its still America, People have private lives" |
I love that excuse. One or two players, yes you can't be omniscient. Thing is it's not one or two players it's over a dozen.9/30/2010 11:14:43 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
ahahahaha sign out sheets 9/30/2010 11:16:26 AM |
jtmartin All American 4116 Posts user info edit post |
9/30/2010 11:16:48 AM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
whats fucking priceless about this is that...
you've got all these IC douchebags going: "yea, this isn't news, we already knew this, we knew Blake was bad, we knew Austin was bad/gone, nothing to see here"
Butch: "this was a revelation to me"
A month ago IC douches were saying: "No one knows anything, there's no proof of anything, just wait for everything to come out. Blake left because the NCAA is out to get us, he's a good man, he's never had one thing sneaky ever reported by him, Black Santa was created by Wusspeckers"
Now they knew all along... the delusion and denial over there is almost painful aside from the comedy. 9/30/2010 11:20:40 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
620 AM The Buzz. Now taking calls after BMFD's interview. Tune in, the first two call ins were great.
[Edited on September 30, 2010 at 11:24 AM. Reason : -] 9/30/2010 11:23:51 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
TZ got pissed when someone dared to allege that butch davis was shirking accountability. 9/30/2010 11:27:06 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Ah, fun's over. Now they're just playing country songs, cutting to 10 minutes of commercials, playing clips that don't relate to anything, and screening calls. 9/30/2010 11:33:46 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
is that ECU fan killpups? 9/30/2010 11:41:23 AM |
dbmcknight All American 4030 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 30, 2010 at 11:52 AM. Reason : fffuuuuuuu]
9/30/2010 11:42:35 AM |
stillrolling All American 1225 Posts user info edit post |
I would like to see StingrayRush's "possible UNC slant" on the current news. 9/30/2010 11:43:33 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you've got all these IC douchebags going: "yea, this isn't news, we already knew this, we knew Blake was bad, we knew Austin was bad/gone, nothing to see here"" |
lol that is exactly what my buddy emailed to me like 30 minutes ago
[Edited on September 30, 2010 at 11:47 AM. Reason : ed]9/30/2010 11:46:07 AM |
BoondockSt All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
lol @ the pictures coming out of the ECU banner hung on the front of Kenan Stadium 9/30/2010 11:46:17 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I literally just got that exact same canned response from an email I sent out with the Yahoo link to a Carolina fan.
[Edited on September 30, 2010 at 11:47 AM. Reason : .] 9/30/2010 11:47:33 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "DON'T EXCEPT ANYTHING" |
Quote : | "lol @ the pictures coming out of the ECU banner hung on the front of Kenan Stadium" |
photoshop9/30/2010 11:51:57 AM |
Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
plz2embed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsx2vdn7gpY 9/30/2010 12:05:46 PM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
yahoo reporter on David Glenn show in 5 minutes.
i forgot Wichard and Blake are god-parents to each other's kids. that was another IC excuse. hahaah 9/30/2010 12:16:40 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
UNC will mostly lose the rest of their games...mostly. 9/30/2010 12:21:41 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
David Glenn is on FIRE he is saying this is butch's fault! Robinson (the yahoo reporter) said that this was the biggest step towards lack of institutional control. 9/30/2010 12:48:43 PM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
^ according to that yahoo reporter, this is unprecedented for its depravity. Lack of Institutional Control (LOIC); sounds like we're way beyond this. This is a wetdream of an anti-sports geek squad. 9/30/2010 12:53:12 PM |
jtmartin All American 4116 Posts user info edit post |
^Needs to be Lack of Legitimate Institutional Control (LOL IC) 9/30/2010 1:00:22 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Epic thread gets more epic overnight. Awesome news to read this morning 9/30/2010 1:08:33 PM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Somethings are impossible to know. Its' America (he actually said this)." |
i like how the walmarters are pulling the "how could he have known about everything his players & coaches were doing?" card after having gleefully reminded us for the past 20 years about NCSU players selling their shoes and tickets
to recap:
Jimmy V was a crook because his lack of institutional control allowed some players to sell shoes and tickets that they got for free as athletes
Butch is not a crook and is in full control, because he had no way of knowing about a tutor doing all his athletes' work for them, he had no way of knowing about Blake's past, and he had no way of knowing about the "Rude Boyz/Drug Mule/UNC DB Alumni" Sports Agency
even if the NCAA quits the investigation today, this scandal is awesome if for no other reason than it makes it incredibly clear that 95% of their fans are crazy walmarters who do not possess the critical thinking skills to make it into any university, and the other 5% of carolina fans are alums who are facepalming about the other 95%
[Edited on September 30, 2010 at 1:19 PM. Reason : also how could butch have possibly been aware of twitter]9/30/2010 1:18:22 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
I'm going to try and get another BOYCOTT THE SCHOOOO on Glenn's show. 9/30/2010 1:18:31 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
IF you get through ask him when there will be an independent investigation of UNC. It is past time for the academic issues to be independently investigated instead of the crap that is going on now. 9/30/2010 1:20:05 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
9/30/2010 1:20:20 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Who would conduct the independent investigation? 9/30/2010 1:21:13 PM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
i'm guessing a cadre of ivory tower faculty appointed by bill friday, look like erskine bowles, and have never liked the idea of college athletics 9/30/2010 1:23:52 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i definitely want to hear hey now get on the DG show 9/30/2010 1:24:04 PM |
dbmcknight All American 4030 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!
[Edited on September 30, 2010 at 1:24 PM. Reason : .] 9/30/2010 1:24:15 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Awwww Ernie. You were a happy kid at Christmas. 9/30/2010 1:26:40 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Who would conduct the independent investigation?" |
We had to undergo an independent investigation during valvano-gate unc should have to do the same especially when there are indications of massive corruption.9/30/2010 1:27:58 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
On hold. Name is Ernie.
[Edited on September 30, 2010 at 1:32 PM. Reason : h] 9/30/2010 1:32:08 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
lol
[Edited on September 30, 2010 at 1:33 PM. Reason : be like TDUB WHAT WHAT when you are done talking] 9/30/2010 1:32:37 PM |