Quote :

"this argument has been made for the past 3-4 polls"

yeah i've been wondering for awhile. it just seems even more ridiculous now when they're exactly one spot in front of us.

2/20/2006 1:48:13 PM

^yep i know, i hope we can beat them again.

2/20/2006 1:49:15 PM

The polls are all about what have you done for me lately. I've never seen any compelling evidence that the pollsters factor in head-to-head records against similarly ranked teams, so I'm not sure why this is surprising.

2/20/2006 1:50:00 PM

heres the complete AP Poll



1. Duke (64) 25-1 1,789
2. Villanova (3) 21-2 1,700
3. Connecticut (4) 23-2 1,655
4. Memphis (1) 24-2 1,615
5. Gonzaga 22-3 1,513
6. George Washington 22-1 1,375
7. Texas 22-4 1,294
8. Illinois 22-4 1,143
9. Pittsburgh 20-4 1,142
10. Tennessee 19-4 1,123
11. Boston College 21-5 1,068
12. Florida 22-4 1,030
13. Ohio State 19-4 981
14. West Virginia 18-7 773
15. N.C. State 21-5 680
16. Kansas 19-6 616
17. Washington 20-5 590
18. Michigan State 19-7 543
19. UCLA 20-6 507
20. Iowa 20-7 492
21. North Carolina 17-6 483
22. Oklahoma 17-6 345
23. Georgetown 17-7 295
24. LSU 18-7 187
25. Northern Iowa 22-6 76
25. Nevada 20-5 76

2/20/2006 1:57:50 PM

Quote :

"i cant believe Texas only moved down 1 spot after there loss who would you put above them?"

well its not like texas barely lost...they got demolished

the only thing better than going up 6 spots in the AP and 4 in the Coaches is that UNC only went up 2 spots in each

and whats up with Connecticut falling to 4th in the Coaches poll? Are they not still better than Memphis?

2/20/2006 1:58:33 PM

but that doesnt answer my question

2/20/2006 2:03:13 PM

no, i agree with you since florida and pitt and some other teams also lost

glad to see GW move up though...every time they dont lose it makes us look good

2/20/2006 2:14:17 PM

Boston College still ranked ahead of us. I'll never get it.





We beat them by



20



Points

2/20/2006 3:12:44 PM

ok so someone might think I'm retarded. Boston College is on a 5 game winning streak. I think these 5 wins deserve #1 in the country. So obvious.

02/04 at Va Tech W 74-73
02/08 at W Forest W 72-66
02/11 Clemson W 67-61
02/13 Stony Brook W 59-47
02/16 Miami W 65-54

2/20/2006 3:16:14 PM

^

Quote :

"The polls are all about what have you done for me lately. I've never seen any compelling evidence that the pollsters factor in head-to-head records against similarly ranked teams, so I'm not sure why this is surprising. "

this should give you insight

2/20/2006 3:16:42 PM

How does Texas stayed ranked so high, is it how they lose? They win 7 and get blown out. They are a really wierd team, I can see them going down second round or making it to the final 4.

2/20/2006 3:50:42 PM

im rather surprised we're at 14 and 15

2/20/2006 3:58:45 PM

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" 5. Gonzaga 22-3 1,513 6. George Washington 22-1 1,375 "

LMAO. Is college basketball this down or are the voters this damn stupid?

2/20/2006 4:00:06 PM

Quote :

"Wisconsin 32, UAB 23, Northern Iowa 21, Bucknell 21, Nevada 17, Colorado 10, Marquette 9, California 8, Iona 6, Alabama 5, San Diego State 5, Murray State 5, Western Kentucky 4, Michigan 4, Air Force 3, NC Wilmington 3."

awesome!!

2/20/2006 4:59:05 PM

2/21/2006 1:23:57 AM

nice

2/21/2006 1:40:00 AM

#19 in the USA Today/Coaches

[Edited on February 27, 2006 at 1:16 PM. Reason : a]

2/27/2006 1:16:40 PM

Week 17 ESPN/USA Today Poll
1. Duke (27) 27-1 771
2. Connecticut (1) 25-2 732
3. Memphis (3) 26-2 716
4. Villanova 22-3 677
5. Gonzaga 24-3 647
6. George Washington 24-1 598
7. Texas 24-4 595
8. Ohio State 21-4 535
9. Pittsburgh 21-4 527
10. Illinois 23-5 493
11. Tennessee 20-5 440
12. Boston College 22-6 399
13. UCLA 22-6 390
14. Florida 22-6 311
15. North Carolina 19-6 294
16. Washington 22-5 291
17. Oklahoma 19-6 289
18. West Virginia 19-8 215
19. N.C. State 21-7 206
20. Georgetown 19-7 192
21. LSU 20-7 189
22. Kansas 20-7 174
23. Michigan State 19-9 88
24. Iowa 20-8 87
25. Wisconsin 19-8 42
OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
Nevada 33, Bucknell 30, Marquette 23, UAB 19, Alabama 16, George Mason 13, Wichita State 9, Arkansas 8, Air Force 7, Colorado 5, San Diego State 5, NC Wilmington 3, Michigan 2, California 2, Hofstra 1, Western Kentucky 1.

2/27/2006 1:20:15 PM

State 22 in AP poll, unc 13

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_ylt=ApSf5z__tl59JoEfgjbhBn3evbYF?slug=ap-t25-collegebkbpoll&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Edited on February 27, 2006 at 1:30 PM. Reason : ]

2/27/2006 1:29:53 PM

I'm shocked that we weren't penalized more for our performance this week. I figured 2 losses would have to equal more than 5 spots in the polls. Then again, we probably only "lost" 1-2 slots for the BC loss, considering they were ranked higher than us and it took 2 OTs. I figured we'd be down to 21-23.

2/27/2006 1:36:34 PM

i thought we'd fall out of AP poll, and unc would be top 10

2/27/2006 1:40:25 PM

^basically

i'm not too down...though the coaches poll positions seem more realistic to me than the ap polls

2/27/2006 2:02:13 PM

wow, that's surprising

2/27/2006 2:59:28 PM

GU

2/28/2006 12:49:09 AM

wow. that gwu win is looking better and better

2/28/2006 1:45:52 AM

^yeah the GW win looks great til they get to the NCAA tourny and bow out early

2/28/2006 10:36:41 AM

fine by me

2/28/2006 10:47:21 AM

We just need the GW win to look good until we're seeded. Then GW can lose their first-round game for all I care - we will have gotten what we needed out of it.

2/28/2006 10:51:57 AM

Quote :

"the coaches poll positions always seem more realistic to me than the ap polls"

[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 10:59 AM. Reason : ]

2/28/2006 10:59:15 AM

charlotte closes out its season at george washington - my brother goes to uncc and was saying that they were going to ruin our rpi by taking care of the colonials - my response was

ha

GW is at st bonaventure and then at home against the niners to close out the year before the a10 tourney, in which they 'should' roll

2/28/2006 11:01:34 AM

isn't the AP one done by a bunch of journalists?

no wonder its fucking retarded

2/28/2006 11:01:47 AM

what exactly does that mean

2/28/2006 11:10:25 AM

id trust the journalists over the coaches. the coaches dont watch nearly as many games

2/28/2006 11:41:18 AM

Mistrust the ESPN/Coaches polls. Some of the stories I've heard about the "coaches" voting....

2/28/2006 11:43:37 AM

^ In other words Calipari has 3 cronies that keep voting him #1.

There is absolutely no reason they should steal any #1 votes from Duke or UConn.. that is absurd..

2/28/2006 11:48:00 AM

Quote :

"Boston College still ranked ahead of us. I'll never get it. We beat them by 20 Points "

get it now?

[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 12:22 PM. Reason : asdf]

[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 12:23 PM. Reason : reading comprehension]

2/28/2006 12:21:52 PM

i thought rankings were supposed to be "what have you done for me lately"?

not "what will you do for me the next time you play nc state?"

2/28/2006 12:23:34 PM

is it not some of both

2/28/2006 1:02:10 PM

wonder if we'll even be ranked.

3/6/2006 11:52:36 AM

maybe in coaches
def not in ap

3/6/2006 12:05:34 PM

AP prolly #25 Coaches #23 - Just because NCAA is down as a whole and the other teams getting votes aren't good enough to get in.

3/6/2006 1:14:19 PM

Week 18 ESPN/USA Today Poll
1. Connecticut (30) 27-2 773
2. Villanova 24-3 733
3. Duke 27-3 676
4. Gonzaga 26-3 665
5. Memphis 27-3 661
6. George Washington 26-1 613
7. Ohio State 23-4 599
8. Texas 25-5 549
9. Illinois 25-5 537
10. North Carolina (1) 21-6 458
11. Boston College 24-6 447
12. UCLA 24-6 440
13. Washington 24-5 358
14. Florida 24-6 351
15. Tennessee 21-6 339
16. Pittsburgh 21-6 332
17. LSU 22-7 266
18. Kansas 22-7 252
19. Oklahoma 20-7 194
20. Iowa 22-8 177
21. West Virginia 20-9 174
22. N.C. State 21-8 100
23. Georgetown 19-8 79
24. Nevada 24-5 74
25. UAB 22-5 57
OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
Bucknell 40, Michigan State 36, Marquette 21, Arkansas 10, San Diego State 9, Air Force 8, Southern Illinois 7, Wisconsin 7, NC Wilmington 6, Wichita State 6, George Mason 6, Hofstra 4, Alabama 2, Colorado 2, Murray State 2, Texas A&M 2, Western Kentucky 1, Florida State 1, Indiana 1.
DROPPED FROM RANKINGS
Michigan State 23, Wisconsin 25.

3/6/2006 2:00:35 PM

sure am glad i bet my buddy that UNC would never crack the top 10 ( - $ )

3/6/2006 2:01:18 PM

^notice what i bolded, they got a damn first place vote

3/6/2006 2:02:27 PM

so unc has looked good. but i find it funny that they got a first place vote and some of the others in the top 10 did not. texas looked damn good playing oklahoma yesterday.

3/6/2006 2:03:03 PM

yeah...dont give GW or Villanova a #1 vote...give a team that just cracked the top 10 for the first time all season a #1 vote

3/6/2006 2:03:31 PM

25 in AP

UNC 10

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_ylt=ApSf5z__tl59JoEfgjbhBn3evbYF?slug=ap-t25-collegebkbpoll&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Edited on March 6, 2006 at 2:54 PM. Reason : ]

3/6/2006 2:53:05 PM

^ In that AP article, it points out that Connecticut got 70 of 71 first-place votes in that poll, with Duke getting the other first place vote.

Does anybody know if Roy Williams has a vote in the coaches poll? That's the only way I can think of that Carolina would suddenly get a 1st place vote in that poll.

Edit: Did some research. The only member of the ACC with a vote in the coaches poll is Gary Williams.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/usatpoll.htm

[Edited on March 6, 2006 at 5:25 PM. Reason : research]

3/6/2006 5:22:25 PM

UNC alumni are everywhere.

3/6/2006 5:45:44 PM

Dick Vitale could of voted for them. God knows once he gets done sucking Coach K's dick he jumps over to Roy's without pause.

3/6/2006 5:58:26 PM