He's only 30 years of age?!?! I guess that's NBA, old. He really looked slow out there tonight.

5/14/2007 10:40:57 PM

ooooooooooh, another "brawl"

5/15/2007 12:28:49 AM

Ha, spurs just choked away the game hardcore.

5/15/2007 12:28:53 AM

Amare would have been suspended if not for the coach... he was all about leaving some bench...

[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 12:30 AM. Reason : damn, could get messy for Game 5]

5/15/2007 12:29:01 AM

Horry's gotta be suspended for that

5/15/2007 12:29:14 AM

I don't think he will be suspended, but probably fined.

I don't think he intended to injure him, he was trying to foul and got carried away.

5/15/2007 12:30:19 AM

its just a solid playoff foul, there have been worse, nash's lil flopping of the hands didn't help

5/15/2007 12:31:12 AM

I'd bet 20 bucks he gets suspended if I knew any of yall IRL

5/15/2007 12:33:11 AM

I guess that's why they call him Big Shot Bob. Stupid fucker.


And Nash's post game interview was hilarious

5/15/2007 12:36:19 AM

Suspended for what?

It was just a hard foul.

5/15/2007 12:36:36 AM

It was closer to a body check, as Nash said.

James Posey got suspended in last year's playoffs for a similar foul vs the Bulls

5/15/2007 12:40:03 AM

that was James Posey...

This is Robert Horry, his fingers have too many rings to get suspended for something like that

[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 12:43 AM. Reason : asfjk]

5/15/2007 12:42:46 AM

Alright we'll see

If anyone wants to bet on it let me know

[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 12:46 AM. Reason : Is Charles Barkley frozen for anyone else?]

5/15/2007 12:45:58 AM

thinking rationally if Amare gets suspended, Horry, Raja Bella and even Steve Nash should face similar punishment. But who knows what is going to happen

5/15/2007 2:06:29 AM

Raja Bell and Steve Nash have absolutely no reason to be suspended.

Horry should probably not be suspended since the flagrant-II was called and he was ejected but it could go either way. The Spurs are deep anyway so this wouldn't be much of a loss.

Amare is at least 50/50 to be suspended for leaving the bench during the ensuing fight. Diaw could also be flagged but it looked like he walked up the sideline rather than onto the court. I'm not sure what the rule is on that matter.

Someone on the Phoenix staff is a genius for coming up with that "offensive for defensive lineup substitution" story that quickly to try to get Amare off the hook but I don't know if thats going to fly.

I know the NBA doesn't want to suspend Amare in a marquee match-up but David Stern has always been pretty consistent with this type of rule application so I wouldn't be surprised to see him stick to the book and suspend Amare for Game 5.

[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 2:14 AM. Reason : a]

5/15/2007 2:13:46 AM

amare won't be suspended. he was going to the scorer's table to check in.

nash won't be suspended. he didn't do anything wrong.

raja bell won't be suspended. he didn't throw a punch and received a technical for running towards horry.

horry will be suspended. he checked nash into the scorer's table and then threw an elbow at bell's face in their skirmish. the review will get him suspended because the games are getting too rough and he'll be made an example of.

5/15/2007 2:39:18 AM

I dont know, Stern has been pretty consistent throughout his career.

I'm not saying Amare WILL be suspended but its pretty evident and inarguable that he made his way onto the court and thats been enough to warrant suspension in the past.

I hope he's not because it hurts the competitiveness of the series but the rule is there and is normally enforced.

5/15/2007 3:10:56 AM

Here's my prediction...

2-Game Suspension and Fine: Horry
1-Game Suspension and Fine: Diaw, Stoudemire
Fines: Bell

I think Horry should actually be suspended for 3 games, but I don't think that's likely to happen, especially if Raja gets off with just a fine (as I suspect he will). I don't see how the League avoids suspending Diaw and Stoudemire, especially given the likelihood of the situation happening again.

There's no way Stoudemire was going to check in--even D'Antoni seemed to back off that claim during the post-game press conference (and he seemed resigned to the idea that he'd lose some players for Game 5).

Anyway, this sucks...this series makes me miss David Robinson.

5/15/2007 3:41:48 AM

Horry warrants no suspension for the foul, it looked alot worse than it was. It was a standard blocking foul that Nash hit the hip block at the sideline, and was in proximity to the scorers table. It is going to happen with the scorers table so close to the court. The post-foul activities were worse from Stoudemire (leaving the bench) and Raja Bell (escalated things, and after all he is Raja Bell). Diaw and Horry should be in the same boat.

That having been said, I don't think they want this to impact a closeout game of the series, and all of them will be suspended one game.

5/15/2007 3:57:20 AM

The Suns aren't deep and Diaw is the only legitimate replacement for Amare (Diaw thrives playing the center position). If both of those players get suspended the Suns will likely get waxed in game 5.

If both of them get suspended then i wouldnt be surprised to see Horry get suspended as well jsut to make it a little more even but Horry is far from essential to the Spurs. He hasn't been very effective in the series and the Spurs are deep anyway.

The Suns have no depth or viable replacements for those two guys. I hope they don't get axed just because the Nashheads would use it as an excuse for another early exit from the postseason.

5/15/2007 4:04:48 AM

thats such bull shit

cheap shot at the end of the game

just adds to the reasons i hate the Spurs

Horry should be gone for the rest of the series

5/15/2007 9:04:39 AM

Having thought about it awhile, I think Horry's role compares to Ben Wallace's role in the Pacers-Pistons brawl (even though this was a much milder incident). Ben Wallace committed a hard foul, but not one that was that big a deal that would generally warrant a suspension on it's own. However, because it was the precursor to a chain of events that escalated into a bigger fight/brawl, he received a short suspension.

Viewing this in that light, I would expect a one game suspension for Horry, one or two games for Amare, one or two for Raja, and one for Diaw. I'll also note that it is comical when Raja Bell calls anyone a dirty player.

5/15/2007 9:33:16 AM

i just dont see how you can throw out 3 Suns players for a fight that occured with hardly any time left

bench clearing rule or not, some players never made it all the way to the scrum

its the playoffs, the heat of the moment times 10, the NBA cant fuck up their best series by doing multiple game suspensions...

5/15/2007 9:35:39 AM

Quote :

"its the playoffs, the heat of the moment times 10, the NBA cant fuck up their best series by doing multiple game suspensions..."

And yet just 2 posts ago you say

Quote :

"Horry should be gone for the rest of the series"

5/15/2007 9:37:29 AM

leaving the bench only merits a one game suspension if you didnt enter any fights.

No way anyone involved gets suspended for more than one game and its possible that the whole thing just slides under the rug.

5/15/2007 9:42:00 AM

AndyMac

i know i said it like that, i hate the Spurs, so naturally id like to see the whole team suspended

the first post

Quote :

"thats such bull shit cheap shot at the end of the game just adds to the reasons i hate the Spurs Horry should be gone for the rest of the series"

was me pissed off talking

the second

Quote :

"i just dont see how you can throw out 3 Suns players for a fight that occured with hardly any time left bench clearing rule or not, some players never made it all the way to the scrum its the playoffs, the heat of the moment times 10, the NBA cant fuck up their best series by doing multiple game suspensions..."

was me responding to markgoal and talking with some knowledge of what the NBA does and has done, along with a little of my own opinion

1st post (spurs hating biased)
2nd post (some use of logic)

sorry for the confusion

5/15/2007 9:57:38 AM

diaw and staud got suspended both for just game 5

5/15/2007 10:09:40 AM

^Not yet.

5/15/2007 11:34:25 AM

No one will get suspended.

The NBA is dying for another Boston/LA Chicago/Detroit type of hate. This is the budding of a nasty playoff rivalry that could last for the next 5 years. I feel like SA is a dirty team but you need those kinds of attitudes to create the drama that makes playoffs special. Stern would normally be the type of guy in this situation to do something drastic but I believe he has the foresight to let it be played out on the floor. Suspending bob or amare would be detrimental to either team and personally unfair to this series in general. Who is going to miss game 5 now? Not anyone that wants to see some good, edgy playoff basketball. This series is promoting the nba in ways that advertising can't. Personally, it makes me feel good to see this type of stuff because it such a departure from the regular season where players tend to pack in for the first 3 quarters of the game so much of the time.

suns in 7

5/15/2007 12:45:48 PM

Quote :

"YEAH IT SUCKED COMPARED TO LAST YEARS MATCHUPS SUNS/LAKERS MAVS/SPURS CAVS/PISTONS SUNS/MAVS "

SUNS/LAKERS - ALREADY HAD THIS SERIES IN THE 1ST ROUND, RETARD

MAVS/SPURS - Golden State/Dallas in the 1st round this year was much better than that series last year

CAVS/PISTONS - about to happen after Cleveland knocks off Jersey and Detroit finishes off Chicago

SUNS/MAVS - albeit exciting, who cares about 2 teams with no defense and no title shot

5/15/2007 12:56:31 PM

YOU CONTINUE TO PROVE HOW DUMB YOU ARE WITH EVERY POST

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I WOULD RATHER SEE A SERIES GO 7 GAMES THEN THE 5 GAME MATCHUPS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT...


LAST NIGHT'S GAME WAS GOOD....AS LONG AS THE SUNS WIN THIS SERIES I'LL CONTINUE TO WATCH...LIKE I SAID BEFORE IF ITS A SPURS/JAZZ MATCHUP IN THE WC FINALS THEN I AM NOT WATCHING

5/15/2007 1:26:16 PM

you're a fucking moron

but hey, you get entertained by watching west by god virginia, so what should i expect

5/15/2007 1:27:50 PM

Quote :

"just adds to the reasons i hate the Spurs"

Bruce Bowen needs to be kicked in the balls.

I hate that bastard.

Also I hate the way Tim Duncan cries and makes his dumbass look like what did I do??? on his face.

5/15/2007 1:50:14 PM

Everyone hates when he does that.



"How dare you call a foul on me!"

5/15/2007 2:00:34 PM

You know the rivalry is getting intense when even Nash and Duncan have words with each other. Of course that was way earlier in the game

5/15/2007 2:10:34 PM

Quote :

"MAVS/SPURS - Golden State/Dallas in the 1st round this year was much better than that series last year"

Quote :

"SUNS/MAVS - albeit exciting, who cares about 2 teams with no defense and no title shot"

First Quote: I disagree. The Warriors-Mavs series was exciting, but it wasn't better than the Mavs-Spurs series. The Mavs and Spurs went seven (OT in Game 7), and all the games were competitive and close.

Second Quote: I care. The Mavs were 3 minutes away from getting a 3-0 series lead in the Finals last year. They can still get there. The Suns could have played well against the Heat last year in the Finals. They had beaten Miami all 3 times last year.

5/15/2007 2:31:06 PM

fuck the Spurs

anyway, tonight should be two good games

Detriot will finish off the baby bulls, and Golden State will force the series back to Oakland and the best home arena in the NBA...

im ready

5/15/2007 2:50:12 PM

just as an aside for the uninformed, Baron Davis is pretty much THE reason that the NBA adopted instant replay and added the backboard light

5/15/2007 2:54:30 PM

yeah vs Orlando

IIRC we still won it OT tho

5/15/2007 2:58:02 PM

yep...Bernie Fryer was the referee..."I had decided before the play that it was impossible for a player to catch and shoot with 0.7 seconds remaining"...thank god we won in overtime...then baron got back to back triple doubles after that i think with mashburn out with his vertigo or anemia or whatever the fuck

5/15/2007 3:00:47 PM

The Golden State Warriors can be the new Sacramento. I remember when Arco Arena was one of the loudest and toughest places to play in the NBA. Now, the Kings have slipped a little, and now Oakland has THE loudest crowd in the NBA at the Oracle Arena. If the Warriors can keep bringing in quality talent, then they can compete for a while. All the Warriors need is a big man that can pass. I think Al Harrington is more of a scorer than passer.

[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 3:04 PM. Reason : I miss the Kings being so close to the Finals.]

5/15/2007 3:03:41 PM

the warriors need a good shot blocker

5/15/2007 3:05:27 PM

Run TMC

5/15/2007 3:07:13 PM

yeah the good ol days...back when hardaway wasnt slow, mullin wasnt old, and richmond wasnt...old

5/15/2007 3:08:08 PM

Pistons-Bulls 8PM
Warriors-Jazz 1030PM

Who ya got?

5/15/2007 4:23:05 PM

I like the Pistons to finish off the series

And I want Golden State to win but I have a feeling Utah will win

More specifically, I have a feeling Boozer will get a key offensive rebound and kick it out to Derek Fisher for a clutch 3 down the stretch

[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 4:26 PM. Reason : .]

5/15/2007 4:26:02 PM

No mention of fines, but I called it:

Quote :

"NBA suspends Stoudemire, Diaw for leaving bench Associated Press PHOENIX -- Phoenix center Amare Stoudemire and teammate Boris Diaw were suspended Tuesday for one game for leaving the bench after Robert Horry's flagrant foul of Steve Nash in Game 4 of the Suns' Western Conference semifinal against San Antonio. The NBA also announced Horry was suspended for two games for knocking Nash into the scorer's table with 18 seconds remaining in the Suns' 104-98 victory at San Antonio on Monday night. Phoenix's victory evened the series at 2-2. All three players will miss Wednesday night's Game 5 in Phoenix of what has been a rough, intense showdown between two of the best teams in the NBA. Horry also will miss Friday night's Game 6 in San Antonio. Horry was suspended for flagrantly fouling Nash and striking Raja Bell about the shoulders with a forearm, NBA executive vice president Stu Jackson said in a statement. Stoudemire and Diaw were suspended for leaving "the immediate vicinity of their bench" during the altercation. "

5/15/2007 7:20:28 PM

Fuck.

That sucks.

5/15/2007 7:22:59 PM

No Amare, no Boris = free win for the Spurs

5/15/2007 7:32:17 PM

i posted this at 10:09 am

5/15/2007 7:39:13 PM