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"- the timing of all of this with the Vince getting murdered angle"

stop fucking referring to the murder angle as something horrible. it was a fucking plot, do you understand fiction? jesus christ how does this in anyway make the wwe look bad? for fucks sake they had an episode of raw years back where val venis had his dick chopped off

6/29/2007 6:11:38 PM

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". Favre is respected in football for his hard working, come in every day and do my job type mentality. He's not really out-spoken and isn't particulary super talented and skilled. He's become a great football player by avoiding big mistakes, being consistent, and working hard. "

Are you kidding me?

Do you even know who Brett Favre is?

6/29/2007 9:44:48 PM

THE POINT IS WHO THE FUCK CARES

BRETT FARVRE IS NOT RELEVANT TO THIS THREAD

jesus fucking christ

6/29/2007 9:48:34 PM

The WWE currently has a plot line going where two black guys in a tag team named Cryme Time are stealing cars.

Somehow I don't think the whole thing is going to come crashing down due to a dead midcarder popping up right after an assassination angle.

[Edited on June 29, 2007 at 9:53 PM. Reason : .]

6/29/2007 9:51:26 PM

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"Quote : "hahahah I can't look at this thread without thinking of Chris Jericho calling him Chris Ben-oyt." I never thought of it correctly after that "

hahaha the reason that sticks out in my mind is cause thats the way I thought it was pronounced at first

6/29/2007 10:58:56 PM

Shit is poppin' off on Hannity & Colmes! Bill DeMott and Debra Marshall are going at each other.

6/30/2007 12:39:03 AM

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"stop fucking referring to the murder angle as something horrible. it was a fucking plot, do you understand fiction? jesus christ how does this in anyway make the wwe look bad? for fucks sake they had an episode of raw years back where val venis had his dick chopped off "

i wasn't something horrible until a member of their staff double fucking murdered his family....that is when making a murder into an story angle isn't horrible so to speak but at least distasteful. And the fact that McMahon ditched the angle sheds some light on the fact that the WWE felt the same way. And I understand fiction, and I also understand that there are a bunch of idiots who still think that wrestling is real and the storylines are indeed real.



there ya go....just one fan for example

[Edited on June 30, 2007 at 12:53 AM. Reason : ...]

6/30/2007 12:49:57 AM

Thats not distasteful, thats unlucky.

6/30/2007 1:09:34 PM

^

6/30/2007 6:03:48 PM

either way when you combine that with a superstar murdering his family it's not going to help out ratings. But then again when you have idiots that REALLY believe it all is real, Vince getting "killed off" but showing up a week later to discuss a real murder is distasteful.....

7/1/2007 2:53:21 AM

how many people do you know, above the age of 13, who actually think it's real...

vast minority of the adult wrestling audience, at this point...

7/1/2007 11:26:50 AM

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"Vince getting "killed off" but showing up a week later to discuss a real murder is distasteful....."

do you know the meaning of distasteful?

7/1/2007 11:39:35 AM

imo "distasteful" would have been attempting to adhere to the "Vince McMahon is dead" angle in the face of real-world events...

the WWE did the best possible thing in canceling the entire angle. McMahon will probably just disappear from screen time for a while anyway (since angles like that are usually created so that someone has some time off), but the angle would have just caused them problems...

7/1/2007 12:10:46 PM

i didn't mean them ditching the angle was tasteful just the angle itself b/c of the events that happened afterward. And i know that they didnt intend on it being like that but then that crazy shit happened. That sentence last night came after waaaaaay too many hours of drinking

Did they find out any more weird news about this case?

7/1/2007 5:52:03 PM

Vince getting "killed off" but showing up a week later to discuss a real murder is untasteful

7/1/2007 6:09:36 PM

mms://204.174.223.100/sportsbyline.com

V link to Wrestling Observer Live telecast if anyone wants to hear.

[Edited on July 1, 2007 at 8:30 PM. Reason : .]

7/1/2007 8:07:57 PM

^wtf is that?

7/1/2007 8:15:41 PM

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"When I stopped this column about a year ago, Daily News sports editor Joshua Buckley and I agreed to revive it if something in wrestling merited the coverage. If you had told me then that Chris Benoit murdering his family and hanging himself would have been that something, I would have just stared at you. A week ago, Benoit was inarguably one of the most talented, most respected pro wrestlers in an industry that typically gets little respect. Monday afternoon, he was the focus of mourning by wrestling fans, when news broke that he, his wife and 7-year-old son were found dead in the family’s Georgia home. By the next morning, Benoit stood revealed as the murderer of his wife and child. He is now one of the most reviled men in North America, a sick cross between O.J. Simpson and Andrea Yates. Had Benoit been a convenience-store manager, his almost-ritualistic crimes would have made national headlines. His wife, Nancy, was strangled, her body bound and bloody. Young son Daniel was smothered to death, hours later, in the child’s bedroom. Hours after that, Benoit hung himself, in his weight room. Fayette County sheriff’s deputies found Bibles beside Nancy and Daniel's bodies. That Benoit was a celebrity, of sorts, only exacerbated the mass media frenzy of last week. Cable news shows and newspapers throughout the United States and Benoit’s homeland of Canada have tagged their stories of the murders with “’Roid Rage.” Dead bodies — with enlarged hearts that stopped beating before age 50 — litter pro wrestling history. The pseudo-sport and its fans tacitly encourage a dangerous cocktail of performance-enhancing drugs (to maintain a muscular, marketable look) and prescription painkillers (to allow these musclemen to go back out and get thrown around the next night). Often, wrestlers take both in toxic quantities. However, wrestlers have been taking steroids for more than 35 years, and there’s been no great rash of child murders by pro wrestlers. There’s more to the Chris Benoit story, a lot of which we’ll likely never know. However, authorities’ suspicions that heavy drug use altered Benoit’s thinking led them to raid his personal physician’s office Thursday night. We also know that for every outraged parent who first read or heard Benoit’s name when this news broke, there’s a wrestling fan trying to rationalize. Don’t take my word for it – use any search engine to find an online wrestling message board or blog. You will find someone trying either to explain circumstances to mitigate the double murder, offer bizarre alternate theories, or argue that we should focus more on Benoit’s tremendous in-ring ability than the crimes that punctuated his life. It’s this mentality that has kept fans from getting outraged at the dozens of drug tragedies in wrestling’s recent history. It’s this mentality that led fans last year to care more about Kurt Angle’s next in-ring opponent than the real circumstances of his departure from World Wrestling Entertainment, where Benoit also worked. This is the mentality of wrestling fans — not all of them, but a disturbingly large percentage who speak out. It allows them to weep and wail about wrestling’s latest tragedy (which they inevitably never saw coming), while they plunk down money for entertainment they know is bought with dangerously heavy drug use and simultaneously say, “It’s not my fault that (dead wrestler’s name here) chose to put bad things in his body.” Is WWE owner Vince McMahon to blame for Chris Benoit killing his family and himself? Are wrestling fans? No, Benoit has deservedly traded in adulation for revulsion, ultimately accountable for his hideous acts. But the wrestling business fosters an environment that’s anything but healthy, and both it and its fans spring to the unhealthy system’s defense whenever tragedy hits and outsiders question it. We’ve seen plenty of that this week, as well. In the weeks to come, we’ll get an answer to at least one question: will this tragedy torpedo the wrestling business? Those who knew him best say Chris Benoit loved the wrestling business. Ironically, it’s possible that his end could precipitate its end. However, we already have an answer — one that’s been evident for a long time, to anyone willing to look hard and honestly — to another question: Does wrestling deserve to be sunk? That answer is a sad, sorry “Yes.” Scott E. Williams is a Daily News reporter and author of three books on professional wrestling. He wrote the column “Ringside Seat” from 1999 to 2006. His e-mail address is scott.williams@galvnews.com."

7/1/2007 8:26:50 PM

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2003560001-2007300340,00.html

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"Cops in Georgia are speculating that Benoit, 40, ended Daniel's life with a version of the Crippler Crossface hold the morning after strangling his wife Nancy, 43, to death. Later that day Benoit committed suicide."

7/2/2007 4:12:10 PM

^

I was going to call it bad, lazy journalism, but then I looked at the source.

7/2/2007 4:20:11 PM

Yeah, nothing The Sun prints should be taken with an ounce of legitimacy.

7/2/2007 4:36:06 PM

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"When authorities arrived, they found Benoit hanging lifelessly from a piece of weightlifting equipment. The paramedics grabbed Benoit's wrist to check for a pulse and then dropped his arm. The repeated this process in order to try and get a pulse but again dropped his arm. On the third attempt to check for Benoit's pulse, the paramedic dropped Benoit's arm, but Benoit was miraculously able to stop his arm from falling halfway down. He then proceeded to shake his whole body, and finally landed a few elbows to the body before throwing the paramedic against the ropes for a clothesline."

7/2/2007 5:27:18 PM

bwahahaha, thats awesome

7/2/2007 6:25:40 PM

OMFG THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR IS ABOUT TO BE ON FOXNEWS TO TALK ABOUT BENOIT...

7/2/2007 9:23:29 PM

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"When authorities arrived, they found Benoit hanging lifelessly from a piece of weightlifting equipment. The paramedics grabbed Benoit's wrist to check for a pulse and then dropped his arm. The repeated this process in order to try and get a pulse but again dropped his arm. On the third attempt to check for Benoit's pulse, the paramedic dropped Benoit's arm, but Benoit was miraculously able to stop his arm from falling halfway down. He then proceeded to shake his whole body, and finally landed a few elbows to the body before throwing the paramedic against the ropes for a clothesline."

ahahahahhahahaha

i'm so going to hell

7/2/2007 9:30:23 PM

^^yea i was looking forward to that. the warrior's always a hoot. technical difficulties though.

7/2/2007 10:15:50 PM

maybe he was just really distraught after the recent murder of his boss

7/2/2007 10:19:55 PM

^^^ahahahahah

7/2/2007 10:23:20 PM

so was the warrior on? I would have liked to have seen that. He was always my favorite.

7/3/2007 1:25:20 PM

I promise you that Warrior would've yelled a lot about steroids and then said Chris Benoit's death was due to God's anger about queers in America. Jim Hellwig (who legally changed his name to "Warrior," btw) is far past nuts.

7/3/2007 1:44:14 PM

Dude, he is from "Parts Unknown". I wouldnt fuck with him if I were you.

7/3/2007 2:18:19 PM

man i remember benoite from the wcw four horsemen days

7/3/2007 2:19:50 PM

so is he really dead?

7/3/2007 2:20:47 PM

yeah

7/3/2007 2:22:14 PM

Vince McMahon has truly changed, folks. He's cracking down on steroids in his talent like never before. In accordance with that policy, the new #1 contender for the WWE Championship is this man, Bobby Lashley:

7/3/2007 2:42:23 PM

Ultimate Warrior:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P39b7v1wzfg&mode=related&search=

Hilarious. I never really thought about this stuff since i was so little when I watched these things. This is so awesome.

7/3/2007 3:02:33 PM

^^Well, Lashley has been receiving a push to main event status for the entire year, so the WWE is going to plug Cena-Lashley right now.

7/3/2007 3:05:43 PM

^ I know that, but if they were smart they wouldn't push a roid posterboy at this point in time. Then again, they thought Katie Vick was a good idea, so it's not really a surprise.

7/3/2007 3:09:36 PM

^lets not forget Kaientai.

7/3/2007 3:11:36 PM

thats basically why wrestling sucks nowadays...they used to have all types of different characters...all with their own unique looks and gimmicks...now it seems mosts of them are just cookie cutter roid heads

7/3/2007 3:20:57 PM

like mick foley said, if everyone is 6'6" and ripped, it's not interesting. Vince needs to get rid of his body fetish and let guys that can work a fucking match do so. See: Samoa Joe.

7/3/2007 3:31:28 PM

I don't think Hacksaw Jim Duggan would've ever gotten fired for having too high a body fat %

7/3/2007 3:35:12 PM

Forget Duggan, look at Rick Flair, Dusty Rhodes, Harley Race...

But wrestling has passed the time of the normal sized man. People aren't able to believe that a 200 pound man with a normal athletic build can take out a 280 pound roidhead

7/3/2007 4:04:44 PM

yet people are able to believe that all of the punches and kicks and face scrapes are real!

7/3/2007 4:07:02 PM

Or that Brett Farve and a roidhead have a lot in common.

7/3/2007 4:11:01 PM

I'd be shocked that people are completely ignoring the fact that Edge, Johnny Nitro and John Cena are the current world champions (and that at least two of them have very obtainable builds), but retardation in this thread always seems to quickly follow a vinylbandit post.

7/3/2007 5:46:22 PM

OMFG for real this time, Warrior on Foxnews tonight to talk about Benoit, seriously, for real, no technical difficulties or at least i hope not, ONE WARRIOR NATION 4 LIFE...

7/3/2007 9:02:48 PM

^^ Nitro's been the champion for a grand total of ten days, and they took it off Lashley, so that doesn't count. Plus, ECW is the basement of the company (not counting OVW). They've got a big push for Lashley to take the belt off Cena (though I don't see it happening), and the way they're constantly harping on the point that Vengeance was Batista's last shot at the title as long as Edge is champion, I think you'll see someone take the belt off Edge in the near future so they can put it on Batista.

Vince loves roid bodies. That will never change. I understand that. Still, you'd think someone in creative might step up and say, "let's put off the Lashley thing for six months."

7/4/2007 12:40:45 AM

hey timswar, what about a normal 280 lb man taking on a roided up 250 lb man, is that believable? bc i might have a future w/ the wwe

7/4/2007 5:53:18 AM

if Bradshaw can do it, then you can

7/4/2007 6:57:07 AM