Stanford tonight at 1030 ET

FSN (nationally televised, i think)

10 point halftime lead last time, then blew it as soon as the Lopez twins got Pendergraph in foul trouble.

The Trees are 3 pt favorites

we'll see


Go s

2/14/2008 3:25:14 PM

Shot Clock not working = Herb's dream night

2/14/2008 10:40:52 PM

6 point game

2 minutes to play

2/15/2008 12:24:30 AM

into OT

it's sad to see the bench of a herb coached team showing more passion, energy, interest, etc than sid's

2/15/2008 12:37:39 AM

as if we needed anything in our face...but ASU just beat #7 Stanford in ot




HIRE FERB

[Edited on February 15, 2008 at 1:00 AM. Reason : !!!]

2/15/2008 12:59:09 AM

big win tonight

2/15/2008 1:07:00 AM

Quote :

"it's sad to see the bench of a herb coached team showing more passion, energy, interest, etc than sid's"

Not trying to start anything but haven't they always?

Really good win for Herb. They are looking to be on the bubble with this kind of play.

2/15/2008 1:08:07 AM

heh...no...they haven't at all. herb's teams have (save hodge and a couple others) have always been robotic and lifeless. compare that to sid's team towards the end of last year.

of course sidney's team this year rivals anything i've ever seen from herb. jury's still out on whether or not they decide to wake up or not come crunch time.

2/15/2008 1:14:19 AM

the whole season is crunch time...if they cant wake up now, they prob wont at all

2/15/2008 1:16:15 AM

right now is crunch time for this year's team.

unless you think we're winning the acc tournament.

SORRY, ASU THREAD.

2/15/2008 1:16:35 AM

well last year's team didn't wake up until tourney time and was one half away from being acc champs.

we could still afford another loss, maybe two in the regular season, and make the tourney.

so there is room for error. it's just sad that this team is closing the room for error exponentially by losing games they should easily win.

but yes, this team shouldn't have to wait until late february to wake up anyways (if it even does...which i'm not counting on)

and yea, gg to herb tonight.

2/15/2008 1:22:08 AM

go s



HUGE FREAKING WIN!!!!

2/15/2008 1:37:35 AM

next game is Saturday at 6 ET

FSN-AZ (DirecTV 649)

Beat Cal last time, at home, in double overtime.

The Arizona sweep, the Xavier win, the Oregon win, the Stanford win, etc are all worthless without beating teams like Washington/Cal/OSU.

they have to finish strong, get to 20 wins, get the 4 seed in the PAC10 tourney and they'll be a lock in the big dance

2/15/2008 11:21:35 AM

Unless they lose out...this is a huge turnaround for ASU this year. Good job Herb.

If they finish out decent, any chance he gets coach of the year honors?? What is his competition for that award? WSU's coach? UCLA's Ben Howland?

2/15/2008 12:33:23 PM

Bennett and Howland are not candidates right now.....those two teams were supposed to be 1A and 1B and are far from it. I say Herb and Tim Floyd or Trent Johnson are the top candidates. But yes his team has made great strides this year.

2/15/2008 12:35:39 PM

yeah, it'll be between Herb and Johnson (from Stanford)

Herb would be one of only 3 coaches since 1950 to win Coach of the Year in 3 different D-I conferences

2/15/2008 12:52:02 PM

Dear Herb:

Thanks a lot for leaving us with Ferguson and Horner in your last recruiting class. They're really superstar ACC talent.

Sincerely


Wolfpack Nation

2/15/2008 1:30:22 PM

Dear Wolfpack Nation,

Enjoy the NIT. LOL.

Yours,

Herb



ps, i tried to give you Chris Wright, Dan Werner and Larry Davis

2/15/2008 1:32:03 PM

good for herb

2/15/2008 1:34:17 PM

Doubled the win total from last year....

2/15/2008 1:35:39 PM

they only won 1 conference game last year correct?

2/15/2008 1:36:58 PM

picked to finish 10th last year, finished 10th at 2-16

picked to finish 9th this year, currently 4th

2/15/2008 1:42:17 PM

Thank you ASU!!!

Signed,

Ben Howland

2/15/2008 2:46:41 PM

loss


hell of a finish, in case any of you didn't get to see it


Pendergraph's foul trouble was the key

2/17/2008 12:21:29 PM

Wazzou at 9pm on FSN-AZ


they'll lose

2/21/2008 7:01:44 PM

down 6

cant make anything within 5 feet of the basket

2/21/2008 10:12:38 PM

they lost

dropped from 4th in conference down to t-7th

2/21/2008 10:57:28 PM

They should finish 3-2 over the next 5 games. Would make them 19-11 and 9-9. That would likely get them in even with a first round loss in the PAC-10 tourney. First round win and they are a shoo-in if they finish 3-2.

2/22/2008 10:39:02 AM

Clusterfuck in the middle of the Pac-10. Should be an interesting last few weeks.

2/22/2008 10:43:10 AM

Holy crap TKE, this is from your first post (although there are 18, not 16 conf. games)

Quote :

"i could see an 8-8 conference record. 19-11, after a second round conference tourney exit...."

2/22/2008 10:45:05 AM

whoever finishes 7th gets to play Oregon St. in the first round of the conference tourney

2/22/2008 11:11:39 AM

I won 42 cents on them losing last night!

2/22/2008 2:42:44 PM

@ Washington
6pm ET
FSN nationally televised

U Dub handed ASU their first home loss of the season in late January when the Sun Devils were #24 in the country


my prediction: Pendergraph gets in foul trouble and Ryan fucking Appleby hits 6 three pointers

UW-76
ASU-66

2/23/2008 11:23:56 AM

GG Herbie! ASU blew UW out by 14 on the road.

2/23/2008 10:00:03 PM

They need to lose out so we can have a date with them in the NIT

2/23/2008 11:53:49 PM

Lunardi has them as an 8 seed in his latest bracketology


great win!

Go s

2/24/2008 12:02:59 AM

kinda funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwOou2hDhQo

2/24/2008 10:59:20 AM

2/24/2008 11:31:22 AM

^^ What's so funny about it? Herb got his ass routinely handed to him by uncch too, so why's it so funny?

2/24/2008 11:38:44 AM

EVERYBODY gets their ass handed to them by UNC...with the exception of Les Robinson on several occasions.

2/24/2008 11:44:30 AM

We got out our ass handed to use by UNC this year too...and a lot of other ACC teams too.

2/24/2008 11:49:04 AM

Heaven forbid State try to improve on a coach who was a collective 8-40 against Duke and uncch.

Besides, Herb left on his own. He had the support of the AD and the big donors at State. Nobody forced him to leave. I'm glad he's gone where he can compete in a mediocre league with coaches of equal or lesser caliber.

[Edited on February 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM. Reason : FU herb nut riders.]

2/24/2008 11:49:07 AM

That "mediocre league" is without a doubt stronger than the ACC this year...

2/24/2008 11:53:56 AM

Uh huh and I guess that's why the ACC is #1 in the RPI rankings, yet again, while the PAC 10 is #3 overall.

Kinda sucks when those pesky numbers get in the way of a shitty argument, doesn't it?


[Edited on February 24, 2008 at 11:59 AM. Reason : fu herb nut riders]

2/24/2008 11:58:20 AM

So we're actually improved now?

You can keep reciting that 8-40 on selection Sunday. Whatever works for you.

2/24/2008 11:59:40 AM

I'm about to go out to the gym so I don't feel like arguing, but I'm right... and nearly EVERY expert out there agrees that the Pac-10 and the Big East are the top two conferences. The ACCs RPI is the best, yes, but that is because of the consistent averageness (not a word I don't think) of the teams. The Big East and Pac-10 are better conferences without a doubt.

I know that doesn't fit in to your Herb rant but it's the truth...

[Edited on February 24, 2008 at 12:01 PM. Reason : i don't want herb back... i just hate people who cant be objective.. the acc is NOT the best conf]

2/24/2008 12:00:38 PM

Bring back Herb.

2/24/2008 6:54:37 PM

^^ From what I've seen, the ACC looks better, but I'm biased. I didn't look at every team, but it looks like UCLA played a tough schedule and won most of them, they're legit I know. They all are basically given 2 conference wins by having Oregon St. in that conference, so a 8-8 team really didn't play all that well. And the worst team in the ACC (UVA...soon to be NCSU?) beat Arizona, a middle of the road team from their conference. I know I've heard some analysts say up to 7 Pac-10 teams making it in, but I really don't see it. Arizona State played a whole lot of home games, and won them. Now they're on the road more, and in conference and not doing as well. I don't know, maybe if I tried I could do the same with the ACC the other way, since I know State lost to UNO, ECU, and Maryland lost those crappy games they lost, but I think the quality night after night in the ACC is a little bit higher than the Pac-10. But then again, I watch the ACC every night and hardly ever see Pac-10 games... so anyways, let's hear the counter argument.

2/25/2008 1:38:24 AM

Quote :

"I watch the ACC every night and hardly ever see Pac-10 games"

So your opinion doesn't mean much.

Pac 10>ACC this year.

UCLA was my pick preseason to win it all and still are because of the way they play defense.

2/25/2008 2:05:09 AM

oh. ok.

2/25/2008 2:14:36 AM