^ NCSU sports in a nutshell

11/23/2007 3:04:00 PM

People calling for a bunch of freshmen to play in close games are idiots. Hickson barely made up for his fuckups. We didn't have the margin for any more freshmen fuckups.


We played down because we didn't punish them for misses by getting rebounds. Better teams have the killer instinct to punish you for every missed shot

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 3:05 PM. Reason : .]

11/23/2007 3:04:38 PM

We showed a lot of spark when we were down by 9... we stormed back and looked like how we are suppose to look.

11/23/2007 3:05:19 PM

Quote :

"^ NCSU sports in a nutshell "

yeah, it's been this way in all sports for years

11/23/2007 3:06:25 PM

not volleyball

11/23/2007 3:07:01 PM

haha gg forte

11/23/2007 3:07:57 PM

anyone notice who was conveniently sitting the bench the entire game?

11/23/2007 3:11:46 PM

so the championship game is sunday at 6:30 and may or may not be on espn2?

11/23/2007 3:11:55 PM

^^^^hahaha, yeh volleyball has been consistent for years.

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]

11/23/2007 3:12:08 PM

^^ Approx 7:00pm ESPN2

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 3:12 PM. Reason : 100%]

11/23/2007 3:12:41 PM

Degand >>> Gonzalez

11/23/2007 3:16:38 PM

^I don't know if you can really say that at this point, Gonzalez has had very little minutes. One thing Gonzalez does do is look to pass more than Degand, who is usually looking to slice through to the basket.(Not saying that's a bad thing since Degand seems to be able to pull it off most times) Also Gonzalez is going to be a threat from the 3-pt line. He's more of an Atsur style pg.

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 3:23 PM. Reason : ]

11/23/2007 3:22:25 PM

Well, I look at it as a matter of potential. I agree that Gonzalez could probably give us most of what Atsur gave us, but is that really enough? Atsur wasn't the point guard that could take us to the next level and neither is Gonzalez. Not saying Degand is, but at this point, I think he's our best bet. And really, why bother passing when your front court keeps missing layups

11/23/2007 3:26:26 PM

yeah but Atsur was dirty, he didn't show much flash but ask the dudes on last year's team and they'll tell you he was sick. farnold and javi look like they will be pretty nice, this will be a completely different team in a month or two, they're still learning how to play with each other.

11/23/2007 3:33:49 PM

Degand showed 1000% more offensive spark today than I've seen out of him all year. So props for that.

11/23/2007 3:37:03 PM

Gonzalez is a pretty strong pg. But i think hes defense is really good. Hes always causing turnovers by steals or disrupting the passing lanes. Ive even seen him make a couple blocks. I think both are pg are solid. Like everyone says farnald just seems to have a lot better drive to the basket.

11/23/2007 3:52:02 PM

Gonzalez reminds me of that little scrappy PG that Clemson has (had?)... Vernon something? Really short guy, got tons of steals. Very frustrating to play against.

11/23/2007 4:00:04 PM

what happened to grant?

11/23/2007 4:05:53 PM

cant dismiss javi yet. i want to see him play a few games without that wrap on his hand. after that, then ill pass judgement.

11/23/2007 4:10:49 PM

Costner does not play defense....he does not box out. SC was going right around him and getting offensive rebounds over and over again. He should sit out until he learns how to play defense.

Grant is a turnover waiting to happen. Hes a good slicer on offense, but other than that, he should be on the bench.

We actually looked like a basketball team near the end of the game when Costner and Grant were not in. No turnovers, movement on offense, good passing.......it was entertaining to watch..

11/23/2007 4:26:33 PM

Grant was probably taken out for defensive reasons. He was letting himself get screened out of the play. His foot speed is too slow to keep up with a guard who is determined to get free of him.


Grant is better against slower, bigger guys because he can still recover on them. A smaller, faster guard gives him trouble.

11/23/2007 4:31:08 PM

on the PG play. I couldn't be happier with the way Farnold and Javi are playing. Javi is VERY VERY scrappy. A hell of a defender. He probably has 8 steals in 40 min. played this year. Even with the messed up thumb, he is not afraid to get into the middle of the action. One time down the court on a fast break, Fells missed a layup and he was right there trying to get the put back, he just didn't have the height to get up. He also has the Engin Atsur "Back down" style bring the ball up the court. its not blazing speed, but i doubt he'll turn it over as the defensive man has to reach in to get to the ball. Very effective. He also seems to have a decent stroke. Same with Farnold though. PG is no where near our problem, nor do i see it becoming one

11/23/2007 4:35:15 PM

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"LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. (AP) -- Brandon Costner had 21 points and Farnold Degand added 14 as North Carolina State rallied from a nine-point second-half deficit to beat South Carolina 63-61 at the Old Spice Classic on Friday. North Carolina State (3-1) also got nine points and eight rebounds from J.J. Hickson in advancing to Sunday's championship game. The Wolfpack, who dropped out of the Top 25 this week, have won two in a row since losing 65-63 to New Orleans last Sunday. Zam Fredrick and Devan Downey had 12 points each for South Carolina (3-2). Costner had a 3-pointer and hit two free throws to put North Carolina up 63-58 with 1 minute remaining. South Carolina cut the deficit to 63-61 on Dominique Archie's long-rang jumper with 54 seconds to play. Downey had a shot blocked and Fredrick missed on a scoring chance during the final 30 seconds. North Carolina State trailed 49-40 with 11 minutes left, but used a 15-3 run to go up 55-52 at the four-minute mark. Costner completed the surge by converting two free throws and making a short jumper. South Carolina had taken the nine-point advantage during a 9-2 stretch that saw Fredrick, Dwayne Day and Brandis Raley-Ross all hit 3's. Hickson didn't start for the second consecutive game after North Carolina State coach Sidney Lowe said the freshman broke a team policy. He entered five minutes into the game when Ben McCauley limped off the court, but committed two fouls and failed to score over nine minutes of action in the first half. McCauley returned six minutes later after getting his left ankle re-taped. He had six points and six rebounds in 29 minutes. South Carolina led 29-25 at intermission."

damn espn, at least spell it right

11/23/2007 4:45:09 PM

GAY GAY GAY

11/23/2007 4:46:43 PM

email them back with some dirty words

11/23/2007 4:46:56 PM

^^^ Looks like they spelled it right. Wrong school though

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 4:47 PM. Reason : .]

11/23/2007 4:47:29 PM

indeed

11/23/2007 4:48:27 PM

Why aren't we starting Hickson. Our coach is an idiot or I don't know something. Did he violate more team rules by out scoring the other large forwards/centers?

11/23/2007 6:05:41 PM

Hickson fg% = 75%
McCauley fg% = 20%

Hickson fthrow% = 75%
McCauley fthrow% = 66.7%

Hickson rebounds = 8
McCauley rebounds = 4

Hickson assists = 0
McCauley assists = 4

Hickson points = 9
McCauley points = 6


Are we playing McCauley based on assists only? Or is it the girlie fighting going on?

11/23/2007 6:09:47 PM

^^did you even read the article a few posts up? or did you watch/listen to the game?
^also hickson was playing like ass for a good portion of the game today.

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 6:18 PM. Reason : .]

11/23/2007 6:17:18 PM

^ no, and no

that's prolly why

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 6:20 PM. Reason : ]

11/23/2007 6:19:47 PM

also, i think hickson should start. but mccauley is certainly a good sixth man.

11/23/2007 6:23:45 PM

looks like were playing NOVA

11/23/2007 6:54:41 PM

ESPN is saying JJ Hickson didn't play, wtf!?!

what the hell is he doing off the court that's getting him in trouble, whatever it is he needs to clear his fucking head

same with McCauley, he's looking like shit on the stats (note I haven't had a chance to watch a lot, but I saw him in against rider and he played like crap)

11/23/2007 7:12:10 PM

dammit


NOVA is looking good


I hope we get it together by sunday :/

11/23/2007 7:15:35 PM

he did play. He just sucked ass in the first half and improved a little in the 2nd.

11/23/2007 7:15:59 PM

Turnovers:

Hickson: 5
McCauley: 1

11/23/2007 7:22:40 PM

the last thing that needs complaining about this team is gonzalez, imo.

11/23/2007 7:26:50 PM

Quote :

"Grant is better against slower, bigger guys because he can still recover on them. A smaller, faster guard gives him trouble."

which is just going to be one of many big fucking problems on Sunday

11/23/2007 7:42:56 PM

beat that ass! GO STATE!

11/23/2007 8:01:17 PM

lol. and 4 of those 5 turnovers by hickson happened in like a 5 min span.

11/23/2007 8:02:09 PM

Hickson's biggest weakness is passing. Those travels that were called on him were very questionable IMO

11/23/2007 8:03:57 PM

the 2nd was definitely a travel but it didn't even look like he moved on the first one.

11/23/2007 8:05:43 PM

#32 IN THE AP RECAP OH YEAAHH

11/23/2007 9:22:34 PM

Hickson needs to get into his move before the double team. He waited until his options closed. Also, the open man needs to run into a passing lane. We should call plays anticipating the double team to exploit that.

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 9:51 PM. Reason : sdf]

11/23/2007 9:50:24 PM

Old Spice Classic Semifinals:
NC State def South Carolina, (63 - 61)
Villanova def George Mason, (84 - 76)

Loser's Bracket:
Rider def Penn State, (82 - 73)
Kansas State def UCF, (73 - 71 OT)

Final games on Sunday:
1st/2nd Place game at 6:30pm: NC State vs Villanova
3rd/5th Place game at 4:30pm: South Carolina vs George Mason
4th/6th Place game at 1:00pm: Kansas State vs Rider
7th/8th Place game at 11:00am: Penn State vs Central Florida

11/23/2007 10:14:53 PM

itd be cool if NC State, South Carolina and Rider all won. We could say we beat the 2nd, 3rd and 4th best teams in the tournament then

11/23/2007 10:17:06 PM

Quote :

"Hickson fg% = 75% McCauley fg% = 20% Hickson fthrow% = 75% McCauley fthrow% = 66.7% Hickson rebounds = 8 McCauley rebounds = 4 Hickson assists = 0 McCauley assists = 4 Hickson points = 9 McCauley points = 6"

not to knock on Hickson (cuz he's the man)

but you have to also include the fouls and turnovers Hickson had

11/23/2007 10:18:36 PM

SC is not going to beat George Mason
NCSU is not going to beat Nova

11/23/2007 10:38:22 PM

liar

11/23/2007 10:39:48 PM