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"Typical liberal behavior"

I wasn't aware that there was any other "typical Liberal behavior" than being able to think for ourselves

10/16/2008 7:23:57 PM

good one

::karl face::

10/16/2008 7:28:33 PM

i dont need to think for myself, jon stewart thinks for me, he is the MAN!

10/16/2008 7:29:23 PM

^^more like karl rove amiright

10/16/2008 7:42:50 PM

10/16/2008 8:12:58 PM

It's like he spotted some nice cleavage in the audience.

10/16/2008 8:34:14 PM

10/19/2008 4:57:09 PM

10/19/2008 5:23:58 PM

^is that malay?

[Edited on October 19, 2008 at 5:40 PM. Reason : -->

10/19/2008 5:36:57 PM

DAT 190% LIGHT OF JESUS (LOJ) SON

[Edited on October 19, 2008 at 5:40 PM. Reason : nvm]

10/19/2008 5:37:07 PM

10/19/2008 10:20:01 PM

10/19/2008 10:21:12 PM

I'm voting for McCain


so fuck you.

10/19/2008 11:01:18 PM

I'm coming to take YOUR money, sir

10/19/2008 11:02:45 PM

aaronburro must be one of those people making >$250k a year... like Joe the Plumber.

10/19/2008 11:06:52 PM

oh yeah. your mom is a damned good business

10/19/2008 11:08:37 PM

congratulations, you've come up with the weakest burn in the history of the world

10/19/2008 11:14:35 PM

I'm voting for McCain


so fuck you.

10/20/2008 1:18:55 PM

I'm so happy that I had an option of what state to vote in...and I was able to pick the state that might actually be a swing state. Not that Obama will need it, because I don't think he's counting on winning this state anyways...but it would be nice to know that I contributed to the beat down if this state were to actually go Democrat.

10/20/2008 1:36:19 PM

i hate obama supporters. i had a McCain sign in MY YARD by MY FRONT PORCH and they decided to remove the sign. Fucking bastards. a new one is going back up pronto

10/20/2008 4:35:25 PM

I hate people who put douchey signs in their yard no matter who they support

Do you really think that sign is going to change someone's mind?

do you think you're now cooler because you're voting for X and will have people who also want to vote for him stop in because of the sign?/


WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT!!??1


(this message brought to you by someone who doesn't agree with either primary candidate enough to vote for them)

[Edited on October 20, 2008 at 4:44 PM. Reason : if anything they make good pee sheilds ]

10/20/2008 4:43:13 PM

I'm double-posting. Live with it.

Redistribution is one socialist tenet, but saying that someone is a member of group X for sharing one belief with that group is like calling a Christian a Muslim because "The belief in one god is a Christian tenet."

Can you all REALLY not see that our government is a hybrid of capitalism and socialism? It has been for at least all of the 20th century, if not always. That's also true for every other modern country. I'd like to see you run a country with absolutely no redistribution.

The reason for this, of course, hinges on the fact that money is made up out of nothing already and only exists because of faith in the government that backs it, so money itself is socialist, if you want to look at things the way you are currently.

Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

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"Socialism is not a discrete philosophy of fixed doctrine and program; its branches advocate a degree of social interventionism and economic rationalization, sometimes opposing each other. Another dividing feature of the socialist movement is the split on how a socialist economy should be established between the reformists and the revolutionaries. Some socialists advocate complete nationalization of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; while others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy. Social democrats propose selective nationalization of key national industries in mixed economies combined with tax-funded welfare programs; Libertarian socialism (which includes Socialist Anarchism and Libertarian Marxism) rejects state control and ownership of the economy altogether and advocates direct collective ownership of the means of production via co-operative workers' councils and workplace democracy."

So, what kind of socialist is Obama, geniuses?

Obama is NOT a socialist. He agrees more with socialists on some economic issues and more with conservatives on others. McCain also believes in "spreading the wealth around" to some degree, as does the majority of the country (and the world). McCain believes in social security, welfare, poverty assistance, medicare and medicaid, and economic stimulus checks (even to those who don't pay taxes, I'd bet, in some cases). I haven't heard him make a single comment about taxes being a bad thing, about helping people pay for food or shelter or medicine if they can't afford it, or about dismantling any government-run economic programs.

If anything, the most you can say is that McCain is LESS socialist than Obama. The only ignorant people in this debate are those who don't see that or refuse to admit it.

[Edited on October 20, 2008 at 4:45 PM. Reason : .]

10/20/2008 4:44:56 PM

Not sure if I posted in here, so fuck it

10/20/2008 4:48:59 PM

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"one day you will understand how things work. see, if i gross over 250k, i pay a lot more in taxes. nevermind the fact that i dont actually MAKE that much, but i do have to pay taxes on it. so based on obamas plan, I will earn more money by doing less work. str8foolish is really good at calling people stupid in fact, i think thats his only contribution to this site. "

Hey Grace...you know you are my favorite republican right? but you got this one wrong buddy. the tax is on PERSONAL income of over $250k. small businesses are exempt from this. so unless you are paying yourself a salary over 250k your taxes will actually go down. Obama actually plans on eliminating captial gains taxes on small businesses.

10/20/2008 5:02:27 PM

The tax rate only goes up on the amount you make over 250K

Whoever said

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"so based on obamas plan, I will earn more money by doing less work. "

Grace or whatever, has no idea what he's talking about - and probably never got anything higher than a D in any economics class.

10/20/2008 5:06:19 PM

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"Obama actually plans on eliminating captial gains taxes on small businesses."

i'd love to see a source for this cause it sounds great, but for some reason i think you're full of shit (no offense)

10/20/2008 5:31:49 PM

^^^actually im right, as i said, myself and most businesses are self proprietorships, which means we file our business as a personal income, which ends up being based on gross receipts.

trust me, i do my own taxes every year.

[Edited on October 20, 2008 at 5:37 PM. Reason : b]

10/20/2008 5:37:10 PM

Horses mouth maybe?

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#small-business

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"Barack Obama and Joe Biden will eliminate all capital gains taxes on start-up and small businesses to encourage innovation and job creation. Obama and Biden will also support small business owners by providing a $500 “Making Work Pay” tax credit to almost every worker in America. Self-employed small business owners pay both the employee and the employer side of the payroll tax, and this measure will reduce the burdens of this double taxation."

10/20/2008 5:38:15 PM

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"i hate obama supporters. i had a McCain sign in MY YARD by MY FRONT PORCH and they decided to remove the sign. Fucking bastards. a new one is going back up pronto"

someone took my obama sign out of my yard

so i bought a new one

10/20/2008 5:43:25 PM

n/m

[Edited on October 20, 2008 at 6:55 PM. Reason : been discussed already]

10/20/2008 6:52:38 PM

i think that the signs are just silly

10/20/2008 7:06:51 PM

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"i'd love to see a source for this cause it sounds great, but for some reason i think you're full of shit (no offense)"

carl face

10/20/2008 7:10:25 PM

I noticed some books in Target were turned around on the shelves yesterday.

I took one and looked at the cover...it was some Obama book that made him look like the Messiah on the front. I giggled to myself and put it back the way I found it.

10/20/2008 7:11:08 PM

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"Barack Obama and Joe Biden will eliminate all capital gains taxes on start-up and small businesses to encourage innovation and job creation. Obama and Biden will also support small business owners by providing a $500 “Making Work Pay” tax credit to almost every worker in America. Self-employed small business owners pay both the employee and the employer side of the payroll tax, and this measure will reduce the burdens of this double taxation."

What I'd like to know is what exactly qualifies as a "small" business.

10/20/2008 8:42:51 PM

[image]http://shit i pressed some button and it posted before i was done typing[/image]

10/20/2008 8:45:26 PM

^^yeah seriously

10/20/2008 8:50:49 PM

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"^^^actually im right, as i said, myself and most businesses are self proprietorships, which means we file our business as a personal income, which ends up being based on gross receipts. trust me, i do my own taxes every year."

i do my own taxes and own a business too. as you mentioned, its based on gross income, not net. are you telling me that after paying all of your workers and subtracting all of your expenses or any other deductions that you are personally grossing over $250K a year? if that's the case you should become incorporated and pay yourself a salary. i'm sure you could live comfortably by paying yourself 100k a year and you get to write that off as a business expense.

10/23/2008 2:16:29 PM

10/23/2008 2:28:07 PM

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"What I'd like to know is what exactly qualifies as a "small" business."

So businesses that are large and successful enough to have multiple locations don't get any kind of break at all.

Hooray for rewarding less able business owners.

10/23/2008 3:39:14 PM

If you vote democrat - you are a child, in a union or a public school teacher.

10/23/2008 8:46:14 PM

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""To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully," the Democratic presidential candidate wrote in his memoir, "Dreams From My Father." "The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.""

-obama

10/28/2008 1:53:48 PM

Sick and sad.

10/28/2008 1:55:40 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

10/30/2008 2:23:45 PM

I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MANY FUCKING PEOPLE ARE FOOLED BY OBAMA.

HE WILL TURN THE U.S. INTO A FUCKING POLICE STATE WITH HIS NEAR 100% CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD HE MAKE IT INTO OFFICE.

10/30/2008 2:25:13 PM

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10/30/2008 2:46:27 PM

http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/obama-spokesman-says-obama-ready-rule-day-1.html?q=blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/11/10/obama-spokesman-says-obama-ready-rule-day-1


interesting choice of words

11/10/2008 7:43:26 PM

HE WILL TAKE POWER AND BEGIN TO RULE STARTING ON DAY ONE.


FUCK YOU OSAMA.

11/10/2008 7:46:34 PM

This is quite possibly the dumbest thread on the internet right now, plus it was created by the dumbest redneck on tdub.

11/10/2008 8:28:52 PM

^ FUCK YOU YA METRO ASS BITCH.

11/10/2008 8:31:58 PM

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"SOUR FUCKING GRAPES"

11/10/2008 8:32:36 PM