fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I enjoyed it. Anyone else? 2/11/2010 1:42:55 AM |
eder227 Suspended 67 Posts user info edit post |
right here 2/11/2010 1:49:39 AM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
this time the "nobody will want to come coach us" argument won't work since theres really no way we could get a worse coach. 2/11/2010 2:44:27 AM |
stateredneck All American 2966 Posts user info edit post |
its ok mamba ILL COACH 2/11/2010 2:51:21 AM |
jtmartin All American 4116 Posts user info edit post |
""I want to be patient with Sidney but it is getting harder when our team gets worse every year & game."" 2/11/2010 5:08:06 AM |
dwmcilmo All American 622 Posts user info edit post |
At least I got half my prediction right (>10 point win). On the upside, as far as I know Sidney Lowe hasn't been comparing our lack of success to the earthquake in Haiti. He may not have shaken Hewitt's hand after GT, but he is not a complete social retard and is doing a lot more with the talent he has at his disposal than Roy this year (no McDonald's All-Americans, same # of ACC wins, beat Duke). I just wish he wouldn't play Mays. If we can beat UNC Saturday all would not be even close to forgiven, but it would at least provide some success to work with for the rest of the season. If this team plays anywhere near its potential it is still capable of at least marginal success to close out the season. At least I hope so.
[Edited on February 11, 2010 at 5:31 AM. Reason : ] 2/11/2010 5:31:17 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He may not have shaken Hewitt's hand after GT" |
he did. he went to the GT locker room pretty much immediately after the game and apologized, shook hands, etc.2/11/2010 7:34:26 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Can we please never mention Roy Williams [or Coach K's early years] with what is happening here with Sidney Lowe again? Yes, UNC is struggling. Yes, Duke struggled for two years about thirty years ago. We get it. It has NOTHING to do with NC State or Lowe. 2/11/2010 7:59:14 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Seriously why does anyone actually think we are going to win this game?
We have looked like absolute shit the last four ACC games including getting our asses kicked by Maryland and UNC. GT game should have been a double digit loss if not for the crazy comeback and we looked almost retarded on offense against UVa.
I guess the hope comes from our inconsistency and that there is a chance we might shoot 60% from the field again. Odds are though we'll shoot in the 30s-low 40s again and lose by 10+. " |
My post on top of page 2. Seriously this team has been absolute garbage since the Duke game. I do not know what happened, but we look like we've quit.
Some thoughts on last night's game:
1. Smith was sick and was throwing up. That is why he looked so tired.
2. Howell suffered a cut somehow shortly before the game and only played 3 minutes or so. Lowe had to play Horner and Davis.
3. Horner had good stats last night (his 1st career double double), but that had to be the least productive 14 pt / 16 rebound game in history.
4. Horner sucks so bad on defense that it is painful. His effort during the press in the 2nd half made me want to stab myself.
5. Javi looked like he did not care again last night. Mays is a trainwreck. Degand showed effort, but simply does not have the skills to finish when he pentrates.
6. Officiating was horrible, but even with the missed calls we would have lost. VT was better at everything last night. We beat them in offensive rebounds simply because we missed so many shots.
7. Outlet caddy is a dumb fucking product.
8. Wood has got to figure out what is wrong with his shot. Good shooters don't shoot bad for an entire month.2/11/2010 8:25:52 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
^I agree with this
I cant believe how much worse this team has got since the Duke game. We actually looked like a good team back then 2/11/2010 8:35:32 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
The team as a whole, and Javi in particular looked very lethargic. At one point when Javi was slow keeping up with his man for 2-3 straight scores early, and barely moved on offense, I wondered if he was stoned or drunk. Horner brought some energy particularly on the boards, but most of the team was standing around way too much. 2/11/2010 8:39:27 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
We had two things on Duke. An inside guy who could move that their oafs had no chance to defend. And when Zoubrick and Plumlee[s] were in the game at the same time, Horner presented a mismatch at the 4 because he could step outside.
If we play them again, I think we keep it close. It's just one of those rare good matchups for our team. 2/11/2010 8:39:39 AM |
WillemJoel All American 8006 Posts user info edit post |
Honestly, guys. . i was at the Duke game.
we were making damn near every ill-advised shot possible, and Duke played HORRIFIC.
It was, in fact, a fluke. I enjoyed it immensely, don't get me wrong. . .but really. We were really, really fucking lucky that night. I kept commenting on how every bullshit shot we were throwing up was going in, and how Duke couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. 2/11/2010 8:46:40 AM |
Erios All American 2509 Posts user info edit post |
More thoughts from the game:
- Davis was great offensively tonight. Tech's D forced him to be aggressive and he did a decent job at it. His D wasn't great, but that was more due to the matchups than his hustle.
- Painter did a nice job all around. On defensive his wingspan and athleticism are big assets. He also scored twice (that I recall) on post moves, which is a good sign for the future. I'd really like to see him log more minutes this season. To me he just as solid on D as V-berg but has the potential to contribute on offense too.
- Horner - does he matchup defensively with anyone? Seems like he's a liability no matter who he guards, and his offense wasn't picking up the slack either.
- Lowe is stuck with two bad options at the point right now. Mays' role is to give Javi a breather. Period. And it's not like Javi was playing well either.
- Next to Javi, Degand is the guy that needs to step up for this team to win any more games this season. He didn't just miss open looks - he air-mailed them, like "40 & up YMCA rec-league" style.
- Wood blamed himself after the game, but the truth is the guy hasn't had an open look in ages. I do not understand how a team can blanket both him and Smith at the same time.
- Give Tech credit, b/c they played an outstanding game. 2/11/2010 9:12:05 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Until we get some guards who can actually score we will not be good." |
Where did the decent javi go?2/11/2010 9:41:54 AM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "More thoughts from the game:
- Davis was great offensively tonight. " |
wat?2/11/2010 9:45:48 AM |
ltownking All American 1084 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Things are so askew at N.C. State, they played the wrong song for the dance team during a second-half timeout not once but twice before giving up entirely. The sarcastic applause was about all the State fans had to offer for cheers for all night, and they weren't being stingy with their praise.
After four straight losses in the ACC, the Wolfpack is going where it was expected to go and hoping not to go: Nowhere. This is the worst-case scenario. " |
http://www.newsobserver.com/260/story/332513.html2/11/2010 10:09:38 AM |
ltownking All American 1084 Posts user info edit post |
2/11/2010 10:11:16 AM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
i remember everybody hyping up javi earlier this year. hilarious. 2/11/2010 10:16:38 AM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
this is one straaaange face.
[Edited on February 11, 2010 at 10:20 AM. Reason : .] 2/11/2010 10:19:21 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i remember everybody hyping up javi earlier this year. hilarious." |
I remember Javi playing remarkably better earlier this year.2/11/2010 10:25:23 AM |
AC Slater All American 9276 Posts user info edit post |
1. we got 4 points out of our 3 guards
2. we got 0 assists out of our 3 guards
3. the team didnt hit a single 3 pointer (0-11)
4. Dennis horner had the most rebounds on our team (bizarro world)
5. Tracy smith had 5 TOs (horner had 6, team had 15 total)
6. Painter played 9 min and had 4 pts and 4 rebounds
7. this is a recipe for failure
1-3 really really stand out to me
well 4 does too because horner has something like 19 rebounds through the first 9 ACC games 2/11/2010 10:31:13 AM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
So many 'bullet points' posts and lists.. here I have one too:
1. N 2. C 3. STATE 4. RULES 5. THE 6. SHITTER 2/11/2010 10:32:57 AM |
ViolentMAW All American 4127 Posts user info edit post |
thank you N & O for that incredibly harsh article - the more publicity there is about how bad things are the more likely for change
i hope 2/11/2010 10:46:10 AM |
BEAVERCHEESE All American 1103 Posts user info edit post |
5^, that competes with some of the Jon Scheyer faces 2/11/2010 12:03:50 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
hey look, nothing changed about Valentine in the two years or whatever he was missing from the ACC, or at least our home games.
he's still got too much of a fucking personality, trying to be bigger than the calls.
example A: the VT offensive goaltending call he ran half way across the court and waved it off like 80 times. he has to call attention to himself. 2/11/2010 12:29:36 PM |
Gzusfrk All American 2988 Posts user info edit post |
N&O has some good pictures of the "non-foul"
[Edited on February 11, 2010 at 12:37 PM. Reason : ] 2/11/2010 12:36:10 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Did anyone see the "speech" from nate mcmillan at the game last night?
Do you think he could have tried any harder to not give a shit about State? 2/11/2010 12:37:39 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
He seemed to be very close with Sendek (I mean he pushed his son towards him at ASU), so it wouldn't surprise me if he holds a bit of a grudge against the fanbase for the way he was treated...
That's complete guessing, though. No evidence I've seen of that. 2/11/2010 12:49:17 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I do not understand how a team can blanket both him and Smith at the same time" |
Because we have zero other decent options. Horner can occasionally hit a jumper, but Javi and Degand can barely get rim anymore. I wouldn't pay any attention to them either. Plus even when Wood got open, you could tell he had no confidence in his shot and would not take it.
It is amazing how horrible State has been since the Duke game. Really it is baffling. Matchups or not, we look worse than the Kenny Inge/Damon Thornton/Archie/Corn Dog teams from the crappy Herb years.2/11/2010 1:32:58 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
2/11/2010 1:45:04 PM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "thank you N & O for that incredibly harsh article - the more publicity there is about how bad things are the more likely for change" |
They always write harsh articles about us. All it does it keep good coaches and recruits away.
I really wish the boosters would pull back their money until Fowler is gone. Our marketing sucks ass too.2/11/2010 2:04:41 PM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
what ive noticed about Wood is that his shot is flacidt a little, i.e. line-drive, i.e. he needs a little more arc on his shot. If you're reading this scott, just send me a money order for the advice. 2/11/2010 3:35:58 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
nobody ever complained when Peter North shot line drives 2/11/2010 3:37:07 PM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
forgive me but who is "Peter North"? When i typed his name into google the search results said exactly that: "Forgive me, but who is Peter North"?
oh apologies, i'm not up on my porno references
[Edited on February 11, 2010 at 3:46 PM. Reason : research] 2/11/2010 3:41:27 PM |