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"no appreciable evidence "

Says someone who has never seen the players in practice and doesn't know what plays are called nor what the assignments are during the game.

If the team was 2-5, then you may have an argument. But this is fairly stupid at this point in the season.

11/5/2010 12:10:08 PM

9 pages of quality bed shutting.

11/5/2010 1:05:18 PM

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"Says someone who has never seen the players in practice and doesn't know what plays are called nor what the assignments are during the game."

I don't give a shit if Greene lies on the ground in a fetal position crying like a baby in practice, in games he's a fucking monster and that is what matters. Unless you've got some statistics that clearly demonstrate that Haynes has given up fewer sacks then stop with "he's a better blocker" argument.

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"If the team was 2-5, then you may have an argument. But this is fairly stupid at this point in the season."

No it's not, even if we were undefeated there are always ways the coaching staff could improve.

11/5/2010 1:16:16 PM

I will be pulling for UNC on the morrow. There I said it.

11/5/2010 1:16:57 PM

^I'm torn, although in a way it's kind of a win-win.

If unc loses, I'll be filled with my usual glee, but it also ups the pressure on us going forward (unless we end up shutting the bed by that point).

A unc win would fill me with the normal rage and disgust, but it would help us out in the division, especially if we fuck ourselves tomorrow.

11/5/2010 1:20:04 PM

pulling for FSU during the game, then if UNC wins ill be happy FSU lost

11/5/2010 1:34:21 PM

i really think the Pack comes out fast and gets up early (like 17-3 in the 2nd quarter) and Clemson doesnt have the heart to come all they way back.

Pack 27
Tigers 13

then

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"I will be pulling for UNC on the morrow. There I said it."

11/5/2010 1:35:06 PM

i don't give a fuck about what happens to unc/fsu.

BEAT CLEMSON! That's what matters most rignt now.

11/5/2010 1:38:55 PM

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"I will be pulling for UNC on the morrow. There I said it."

I like to phrase it as cheering for/against FSU. Its just too hard to actually type those words.

^ For sure, go Pack first and foremost.

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11/5/2010 1:47:26 PM

^^





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11/5/2010 1:48:54 PM

ahaha, that's an awesome hotlinking redirect picture.

[Edited on November 5, 2010 at 1:51 PM. Reason : ^you failed, btw.]

11/5/2010 1:51:28 PM

I won't care what other teams do as long as we keep winning. That said, I'm kinda nervous about tomorrow's game in Death Valley.
Go Pack!!

11/5/2010 1:55:53 PM

armorfrsleep, have you put in a resume for a Div I head coaching job? you should, because it sounds like you really know what you're talking about!

11/5/2010 2:02:00 PM

Fuck those blue pieces of shit. I hope they get stomped by 40.

11/5/2010 2:06:34 PM

Here's to a game fit for this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXzlRoNtHU

I wasn't a huge fan of the song before the FSU game, but when they started playing it right after we recovered the Ponder fumble, my opinion changed.

11/5/2010 2:13:01 PM

That song sucks

DEEEEEEEEEEE JAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY KHALED can lick my butt and suck on my balls

11/5/2010 2:18:49 PM

^ You win sir

11/5/2010 2:21:28 PM

If UNC wins it helps us, and the win will probably be vacated anyway. That's a win-win if there ever was one.

11/5/2010 2:23:39 PM

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"That song sucks"

You know what? You suck.

11/5/2010 2:29:05 PM

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"I don't give a shit if Greene lies on the ground in a fetal position crying like a baby in practice, in games he's a fucking monster and that is what matters. Unless you've got some statistics that clearly demonstrate that Haynes has given up fewer sacks then stop with "he's a better blocker" argument. "

Now you're just being an idiot. Here a statistic for you - Haynes starts and Greene doesn't. TOB says its b/c he better at pass protection. The coach of the 5-2 team tells me Haynes is a better blocker therefore he is a better blocker.

11/5/2010 2:30:02 PM

i hate that song. Vtech played it at least 3 times last night. ugh

ps: why are people arguing over haynes and greene. both are soon to be monsters. not just greene. so why don't you both stfu.

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11/5/2010 2:30:43 PM

I know somebody else had their cherry popped on here this thread, so I figured I would follow suit. I've Been a crazy pack fan since I was a kid. I have read TWW for years, just never cared about posting. Now I do, so everyone gets the pleasure of my lovely opinions! anyway I saw somebody earlier said someone should make a poster/picture for the game, I made this with a good buzz after the battle of the Techs last night so sorry if It is not marvelous and wonderful but its the thought that count's right? At least I come barring a gift to the community!

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[Edited on November 5, 2010 at 2:38 PM. Reason : my retardness could not get the picture loading right! sorry]

11/5/2010 2:33:40 PM

hahaha nice.

here it is again uploaded:




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11/5/2010 2:34:34 PM

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"Now you're just being an idiot. Here a statistic for you - Haynes starts and Greene doesn't. TOB says its b/c he better at pass protection. The coach of the 5-2 team tells me Haynes is a better blocker therefore he is a better blocker."

I wouldn't go around calling someone else an idiot when you don't even know what our record is. Are you really going to try to argue that TOB hasn't made any mistakes? We've had a good season, but we've still lost two games so arguing there isn't anything he could have done better is moronic. If you don't think arguing about the decisions that coaches make is worthwhile then why the fuck are you posting here?

11/5/2010 2:41:20 PM

^^ Me likey.

11/5/2010 2:46:25 PM

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"Here's to a game fit for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXzlRoNtHU I wasn't a huge fan of the song before the FSU game, but when they started playing it right after we recovered the Ponder fumble, my opinion changed."

clearly you weren't at the ECU game in greenville.

11/5/2010 3:03:13 PM

Feel like the Mustafa mob on here are the same people I see at the game who put their hands on their head and go "mooooooooooooooo" after Haynes gets a first down and then get pissed when they realize 29=/=33.

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"DEEEEEEEEEEE JAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY KHALED can lick my butt and suck on my balls "

win

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11/5/2010 3:05:58 PM

Awesome picture! I like TOB, but I think he does make mistakes. I don't like the way he (or staff) handle the clock in time sensitive situations, this manifested itself last year and this year. I remember being furious last year one game where we had a chance to score before halftime and instead ran out of time on second down and went into the half with 2 time outs. With that said I would like to see Greene get more carries, but Haynes is not bad and I trust TOB that there is something he sees that makes him want to start him. I do think Greene is the future though.

If infact Haynes is better at pass blocking, then play him. I would rather have a healthy RW than a beat up RW and 5 more touches per game for Greene.

11/5/2010 3:07:48 PM

11/5/2010 3:17:46 PM

PLZ 2 keep the bed open! GO PACK!

11/5/2010 3:20:47 PM

just got my tradition scarf in the mail

11/5/2010 3:34:14 PM

just in time for the cold weather...you win

11/5/2010 3:38:07 PM

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"I wouldn't go around calling someone else an idiot when you don't even know what our record is. Are you really going to try to argue that TOB hasn't made any mistakes? We've had a good season, but we've still lost two games so arguing there isn't anything he could have done better is moronic. If you don't think arguing about the decisions that coaches make is worthwhile then why the fuck are you posting here? "

Listen dummy. Quit changing your argument. You wrote:

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"there's no appreciable evidence that Haynes is better at blocking other than the tired old "the coaches know whats best" argument."

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"Unless you've got some statistics that clearly demonstrate that Haynes has given up fewer sacks then stop with "he's a better blocker" argument. "

You are a dumbass for thinking that performance in practice and pass blocking shouldn't determine who starts in a game. And for asking for 'stats' that show someone is a better pass blocker.

11/5/2010 3:43:12 PM

TOB's clock management sometimes drives me crazy earlier this season and last year too. But as for the RB decision, why can't we be more patient to see all our players get the best out of their game? Whoever starts doesn't mean anything at least for now. I'm totally fine with Greene has more carries but not start as long as we win at the end of the day.

11/5/2010 3:43:13 PM

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"Listen dummy. Quit changing your argument. You wrote:"

I didn't change my argument, I extrapolated it. And again you couldn't even get our record right and you expect to be taken seriously? You are a fucking retard.

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"You are a dumbass for thinking that performance in practice and pass blocking shouldn't determine who starts in a game. And for asking for 'stats' that show someone is a better pass blocker."

There are statistics (or grades at least) for pass blocking, it's just not something that ESPN keeps track of. The reason I brought that up is because that way we could talk about it in a rational manner as opposed to saying "TOB says so it must be true" or "I watch the games and Greene looks like he's just as good at blocking" over and over again.

11/5/2010 3:57:28 PM

^sorry bro, you're coming across as the retard. give it a rest

11/5/2010 4:06:48 PM

^^Fine. Then lets agree that I'm an idiot for fat-fingering my keyboard and you're an idiot b/c your arguments are stupid.

Now move on.

[Edited on November 5, 2010 at 4:07 PM. Reason : ^^]

11/5/2010 4:07:33 PM

How is my argument stupid? You're telling me there is no such thing as grades for pass blocking? Or are you going to continue with the whole "TOB is god and never makes mistakes" line of reasoning?

11/5/2010 4:11:55 PM

I'm done with you.

11/5/2010 4:16:11 PM

The entire argument is stupid. I feel like we should have won both games we lost which sucks but also says a lot about our season. Its the best one we have had since 02. Why in the fuck would we change anything that seems to be working right now? I like Mufasa and think he should be getting more carries but what we are doing now is working.

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"clearly you weren't at the ECU game in greenville"

That in itself made me hate that fucking song.

11/5/2010 4:27:23 PM

armorfrsleep looking like a dumbass ITT

11/5/2010 5:34:01 PM

i'm gonna be there. scored tickets w/ a clempson fan from work. yes, clempson

11/5/2010 5:54:47 PM

clitson?

11/5/2010 6:10:20 PM

ok - so this game is or isnt on Wral?

im hearing conflicting things

11/5/2010 6:25:13 PM

http://tinyurl.com/3anzqdo

11/5/2010 7:20:09 PM

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"armorfrsleep looking like a dumbass ITT"

go fuck yourself, nobody actually bothered to refute my argument they just spouted some retarded variation on "the coach knows more than you do". It's funny how y'all are so blindly supportive of everything TOB does now, he's a good coach but he's a long way from perfect.

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"ok - so this game is or isnt on Wral?"

yes, it is on WRAL

11/5/2010 7:55:55 PM

I've decided to renege on my Greene argument now that armorfrsleep is actually claiming that Haynes isn't better at blitz pick up (he is - Greene still makes many mistakes if you watch him, I just think his running ability outweighs that) and that I got owned by Haynes being Scout Team RB

Consider me on TEAM HAYNES/TOB now

11/5/2010 8:01:05 PM

noon cannot come soon enough.

11/5/2010 8:06:13 PM

^^I think you can make the argument that Haynes is a little better at pass protection, but like you said it's not enough of a difference that he should be getting as many carries as he has been. If you watch the games and don't think to yourself "Greene should be getting more carries" then you aren't paying attention.

^true that

11/5/2010 8:14:04 PM

just finished fucking myself and still think this is a stupid argument.

11/5/2010 8:25:16 PM