kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
Soon to be Nine 3/5/2017 7:56:07 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/this-is-how-neil-gorsuch-thinks.html
Corporate whore hiding behind legalese semantics arguments? You betcha. 3/16/2017 7:10:51 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/senate-democrats-focus-on-gorsuchs-defense-of-bush-era-terrorism-policies/2017/03/15/3fced3de-0998-11e7-93dc-00f9bdd74ed1_story.html?utm_term=.79f9f91f619b
Again. I'm not understanding how an individual can be adamantly pro-life and anti-assisted suicide, while still HAPPILY justifying torture and the death penalty. 3/16/2017 4:25:53 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Again. I'm not understanding how an individual can be adamantly pro-life and anti-assisted suicide, while still HAPPILY justifying torture and the death penalty." |
Because the first two deal with an innocent life, while the second two deal with punishing evil.
Leftists really do have a weird disconnect when it comes to concepts like personal responsibility and good vs evil...
BTW articles trying to smear someone like Gorsuch make me glad we have someone like the orange man to call out the leftist #FakeNews.3/21/2017 9:43:52 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
The majority of people disagree with the death penalty bc the system is flawed and innocent people are murdered by the state. Are we good or evil when innocent people are murdered?
As for torture.....are we good or evil when we torture someone. 3/21/2017 9:54:51 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The majority of people disagree with the death penalty bc the system is flawed and innocent people are murdered by the state" |
That is a fair criticism of the system, but my point is that being pro-life and pro-death penalty isn't hypocritical if your position is based on valuing life based on innocence.
Also I would imagine present-day innocent executions are almost non-existent.
Quote : | "As for torture.....are we good or evil when we torture someone." |
I'm fine with waterboarding... as long as there is some sort of due process leading up to it3/21/2017 10:05:28 AM |
dinamod Starting Lineup 88 Posts user info edit post |
There are plenty of wrongful convictions and executions. You are delusional if you think that our justice system actually works. It works better for people that have money to hire private attorneys, but even then it still fails to get justice 100% of the time. 3/21/2017 10:14:43 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Waterboarding and torture in general don't work 3/21/2017 10:23:04 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Well apparently after due process it's cool. 3/21/2017 10:24:17 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Waterboarding is nothing. I think it's laughable when people virtue-signal and try and suggest waterboarding is immoral from their cozy existence that is only allowed because people do/have done far worse than waterboarding.
I guess it has something to do with the leftist/Islam love affair. 3/21/2017 11:00:55 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
you triggered 3/21/2017 11:05:35 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
then what's the point? 3/21/2017 11:06:01 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Motherfucker thinks he's Colonel Jessup. 3/21/2017 11:38:29 AM |
Cabbage All American 2085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Waterboarding is nothing. I think it's laughable when people virtue-signal and try and suggest waterboarding is immoral from their cozy existence that is only allowed because people do/have done far worse than waterboarding." |
"Waterboarding is nothing," he said from his cozy existence behind his keyboard.3/21/2017 12:47:39 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not the one faking moral outrage over a necessary evil that benefits me. 3/21/2017 1:12:05 PM |
Cabbage All American 2085 Posts user info edit post |
...And I'm not a fucking moron that believes it IS a necessary evil that benefits anyone.
Dumbass. 3/21/2017 1:14:59 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Gathering intelligence from terrorists doesn't benefit America?
Great argument, good luck with that one.
Edit: Nvm its fucking Cabage lol.
[Edited on March 21, 2017 at 1:52 PM. Reason : waste of time, too stupid] 3/21/2017 1:52:22 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Breaking News! Jimmy Dean Sausage Co will be renamed GORSUCH SAUSAGE because he's grinding up some Democrat Senators into PURE PORK SAUSAGE!" |
Huckabee's on one this week3/21/2017 2:09:55 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
JCE, would you say that you or John McCain is more qualified to determine whether or not waterboarding should be allowed and/or works?
[Edited on March 21, 2017 at 2:30 PM. Reason : sdf] 3/21/2017 2:15:02 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
No, it's more important that we get bad or fake intelligence 3/21/2017 2:24:58 PM |
Cabbage All American 2085 Posts user info edit post |
Waterboarding != gathering intelligence from terrorists
[Edited on March 21, 2017 at 2:56 PM. Reason : !=] 3/21/2017 2:55:14 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
"Imma small government conservative that believes in the 'Sanctity of Life (TM).' Well, unless government bureaucrats dictate you're too 'evil,' then you get whatever cruel and unusual torture they can cook up."
#consistentconservative #flexiblemorals #conservativewhenitsconvenient 3/21/2017 3:39:37 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
Gorsuch vs Senate Democrats:
3/21/2017 3:55:47 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Imma small government conservative that believes in the 'Sanctity of Life (TM).' Well, unless government bureaucrats dictate you're too 'evil,' then you get whatever cruel and unusual torture they can cook up." " |
The sanctity of life for innocent US citizens, yes. You're conflating the life of an innocent US Citizen with the life of a terrorist planning to kill as many US Citizens as possible. Anyone with common sense can differentiate between the two and see that the values are consistent.
I think that is what triggers leftists the most at a subconscious level... the fact that GOP incompetency aside, all conservative principals are rock solid across every issue... whereas the regressive agenda of "equality of outcome" is Marxism in disguise and it doesn't have a leg to stand on.3/21/2017 5:00:47 PM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "all conservative principals are rock solid across every issue" |
This is the most ridiculous thing I think I've read so far this year, and Trump is POTUS so that's saying a lot.3/21/2017 5:14:22 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
So if a rapist (non-innocent) comes down with terminal cancer he should be able to go to his doctor and get assisted suicide, but my grandmother slowly dieing from dementia, who expressly wrote in her will the conditions of her assisted suicide, shouldn't be allowed because the Sanctity of Life (TM)?
[Edited on March 21, 2017 at 5:21 PM. Reason : ^yah that was a hearty chuckle] 3/21/2017 5:15:50 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Torture mother fuckers!! 3/21/2017 5:31:58 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "all conservative principals are rock solid across every issue... whereas the regressive agenda of "equality of outcome" is Marxism in disguise and it doesn't have a leg to stand on." |
Lol. If nothing else he has a sense of humor.3/21/2017 6:02:10 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) wants the Senate to delay a vote on President Donald Trump’s Supreme Court pick as long as Trump’s campaign remains under investigation by the FBI." |
Clearly, it's the only sensible action to take at this point.3/21/2017 6:31:29 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
^I'm not entirely opposed to that, actually. 3/21/2017 6:44:35 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "all conservative principals are rock solid across every issue" |
even i'm rofling at this3/21/2017 6:53:21 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
It's almost like you stupid fucks don't realize he is trolling even when it's over the top trolling 3/21/2017 7:17:05 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
your trolls are fine 3/21/2017 7:24:51 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
^^ are you talking about Gorsuch trolling the Democrats?
Because that is totally happening. 3/22/2017 10:28:22 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
what does that have to do with Hillary? 3/22/2017 11:49:31 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Equality of opportunity > Equality of outcome
Sorry leftists, the right wins every time on that foundation. The only way you can win is if you import enough poor, high birth rate, 3rd world peasants to push for socialism... but that's why we are building a yuge wall. 3/22/2017 2:22:10 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
3/22/2017 2:23:52 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Did you guys hear something? 3/22/2017 2:24:12 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
I hear deafening silence... because there is no defense of regressive leftist "values". 3/22/2017 2:42:01 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Equality of opportunity is a funny joke. That's what I heard. 3/22/2017 2:44:08 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
So is socialism, Bernie bot 3/23/2017 12:30:01 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Democrats saying they will fillibuster 3/23/2017 1:00:16 PM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
So you force Republicans to go nuclear, they still get Gorsuch the seat and then it's easier for them to confirm other potential nominations down the line. I honestly don't know what the net-gain here is for Dems to filibuster. 3/23/2017 1:13:51 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
It's a bet they will make a MAJOR gains in 2018 and that Trump is a one-term president.
The latter is almost a certainty (one way or another) the former is a pipe dream. 3/23/2017 1:24:19 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
If you're not going to use the filibuster because you're afraid of the majority party getting rid of it, then why have it in the first place? May as well use it and force them to play that hand. 3/23/2017 1:26:12 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
To me the reason to not filibuster is because it seems highly likely they're going to get another pick during this term. If you still have the filibuster as an option they may not want to go nuclear because they know they're losing in the next election, so they would possibly nominate someone more centrist.
If they go nuclear now they would have no reason at all not to nominate whoever the hell they want next time 3/23/2017 1:31:04 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the former is a pipe dream." |
this russia stuff is slowly making it less of a pipe dream
for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_elections,_19743/23/2017 1:42:08 PM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
This investigation could (and probably will) take a lot more time than the Dems have for this pick to get rammed through. 3/23/2017 1:47:24 PM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
Nuclear Option enacted:
http://www.npr.org/2017/04/06/522847700/senate-pulls-nuclear-trigger-to-ease-gorsuch-confirmation?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170406 4/6/2017 12:44:34 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
Using a procedural vote to dispose of the filibuster. This pretty much makes McConnell the worst senate leader of all time, right?
[Edited on April 6, 2017 at 1:07 PM. Reason : Gorsuch goes through his career with an asterisk next to his name right?] 4/6/2017 1:04:54 PM |