justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "do due diligence" |
lol doo doo diligence5/23/2014 10:32:50 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
He just seems a lot like Rashad McCants. Great shooter with a scorer's mentality and NBA body, but he's just such a selfish dumbass that he could cause problems on or off the court. He never passed the ball at UNC and apparently that was true in the NBDL as well.
The word out of his NBDL team is that he's a primadonna. Not a Cho guy. 5/23/2014 10:35:14 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
I don't give a shit where PJ went to school. He'd be a wasted pick because he's a small volume shooter. If we wanted a 3 point threat from chapel hill we should just trade the 24 for Bullock, who was better than Hairston 5/23/2014 10:41:24 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
Really don't agree Reggie is better, but that's neither here nor there. Regardless, fair points all around (wasn't so hard was it? ) 5/23/2014 11:21:44 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
It looks like we all agree he's incredibly overrated and comes with baggage... are you agreeing with us? 5/23/2014 11:24:02 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
i also don't agree that bullock is better. 5/23/2014 11:49:19 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
I always thought Green was much better than Ellington although I didn't expect either to do much in the pros. Also was surprised McCants was a complete bust. Just throwing that out there while we're on TWW: IC Edition 5/23/2014 12:00:21 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
McCants put up decent stats when he played. He shot pretty well and willingly took on a scorer's role in Minnesota. His issue was primarily his attitude / lack of discipline. Dude was just a headcase and not a team player. Hairston may be cut from the same cloth.
I think the Bobcats take Young or Stauskas at 9 unless a guy like Randle or Vonleh slides to them. Or they could flip that #9 pick for a proven guy like Afflalo. 5/23/2014 12:27:42 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
"It looks like we all agree he's incredibly overrated and comes with baggage... are you agreeing with us?"
No not particularly. I'm not denying he's got issues that need vetting, but for where he's slated in the draft I would call that a bargain vs being overrated. The main difference between him and mccants is I've actually seen pj show some contrition over what he did wrong, whereas mccants was always the victim at all his stops. Basically, the hornets could do worse at 24 if they stay put 5/23/2014 1:33:37 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
So you thinking trading up to grab AT BEST the 4th shooting guard on the board is a "bargain"?
Do us all a favor and take your ass back to IC. 5/23/2014 2:01:41 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Recaps from Chad Ford at the predraft workouts on some guys we're looking at. Both seem to be doing well.
Quote : | " Gary Harris
Shot really well, really tight handle. A lot of teams are looking at him to play combo or just point so they put him through a ball handling workout that he did really well at. Said he expects Harris to remain a lottery pick and possibly a top 10 pick. Said we are an interesting destination because he can play alongside Kemba and alleviate Kemba at times during the game.
James Young
Eventhough he had worked out less than others he looked just as sharp. Physically imposing next to the others and could possibly still get bigger. Scouts believe his streakiness is because he was one of the only pure wing scorers on Kentucky so he had to take a lot of shots that he shouldn't have. One of the real sleepers in the draft and should be mentioned with the other elite wings. More scouts called about him than any other player. We are giving him serious looks." |
5/23/2014 4:48:23 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
When I look at what the smart teams do with late first rounders, I usually either see them take legit college superstars who have NBA projection concerns (Blair, Sullinger), a guy with size or a euro to stash
Pj fits none of the above 5/23/2014 6:02:42 PM |
ewalk All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not a fan of the James Young pick. There are too many things about his game that need to be corrected. I understand he is young and can develop with experience....but I don't want another physical specimen that lacks intelligence and needs proper coaching. (see Bismack)
I would prefer a high intelligence prospect that needs to fine tune aspects of their game to translate to the NBA.
I would like to see the Hornets trade back to the mid teens and pick up Warren. I know it is a homer pick, but his intelligence is a major plus. He is easily coached and has a calm demeanor, which can be invaluable in a young NBA player. How many times did he get fucked over by the refs and keep his cool? Having that kind of demeanor is a HUGE plus. 5/23/2014 8:15:57 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I don't like Warren on this team. Yeah he can score, but they need shooters who are a threat from the perimeter to free up the lane so Al can go to work. Warren scores most of his points within 15 feet.
I would like Hairston at 24. He's a volume chucker, but Gary Neal is the only reliable 3 point shooter we have. 5/24/2014 9:27:31 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Unless you're trying to win a championship next year, you should be taking the best player over need. With 24 your chances at landing a legit contributor are already small. Limiting them even further by trying to fit the player in a box makes it even harder. Al might not even be here in 3 years. 5/24/2014 9:51:02 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
CDR is a better outside shooter than Gary Neal's simple ass 5/24/2014 10:51:03 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
CDR is an unrestricted free agent, and I bet you dollars to donuts he's looking for at least 3 mil. 5/24/2014 8:54:45 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
You think 3M/yr is way overpricing CDR? Cause I would sign him for that and not feel like I overpaid.
I'd actually be thrilled if they got him for 2 years at 6M 5/24/2014 9:01:01 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
It's a 500 percent raise, and I'm not convinced last year wasn't a fluke. I don't mind paying him that much only if it doesn't impede their plans with Mcroberts, draft picks, and any other FAs. 5/24/2014 9:20:30 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
I can agree with all that. He's a bonus, not a necessity. 5/24/2014 9:35:30 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on May 27, 2014 at 9:34 PM. Reason : X]
5/27/2014 9:32:33 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
No one foreign just pick Warren 5/27/2014 9:37:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Big Al is not a winner Bring back Brezec at Center 5/27/2014 9:57:12 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
the thought of McDermott is growing on me, I guess mainly because I keep worrying they're gonna take some Euro that'll be playing for like Milwaukee in 5 yrs 5/27/2014 10:14:24 PM |
willembahh All American 2378 Posts user info edit post |
They have a job listing on their website for someone to be the new Hugo mascot. Why couldn't they just keep the dude who wore the Rufus suits for all these years? 5/28/2014 12:34:58 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
McDermott may as well be European. Shit, at least Saric's white boy teams didn't lose to Scott Drew and Tyler Harris 5/28/2014 12:45:47 AM |
Wyld Stallyn Suspended 1087 Posts user info edit post |
Are they looking for a new Super Hugo yet? 5/28/2014 8:17:44 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
it does not rhyme with mcdermott 5/28/2014 9:12:00 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
On board the Stauskas train. Guy has an effortless jump shot and makes play after play.
At #9, I'd take 1. Stauskas 2. Harris 3. Young 4. McDermott 5/28/2014 1:40:53 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
i fully expect michael jordan to step in and make a retarded pick. like mitch mcgary. 5/28/2014 4:22:20 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Or James Michael McAdoo.
Cause his middle name is Michael and stuff 5/28/2014 5:35:00 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
I don't want Lance Stephenson on this team.
Last night was just the icing on the cake. There have been red flags with him his whole career, and getting a big deal might be the worst thing that could happen to him. 5/31/2014 8:25:30 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^Yes, please no Lance.
I mean when asked last night, even Paul George was like "I don't know if I want him back here or not" haha.
What a clown. 5/31/2014 9:30:14 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
that's not what paul george said at all.
Quote : | "I mean, I don't know. That's for Larry, Kevin to decide. It would be great, we came into this league together. It would be great for us to continue our journey together. He’s played a huge year this whole season and in this postseason. He’s definitely put pressure on us to make decisions going forward with Lance." |
let's take more quotes out of context.5/31/2014 3:31:17 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
That a non-committal response though. You can see right through that stump he gave him at the end as it was thinly veiled.
It would have been real easy to say something like "Absolutely. Lance is a key player on this team and great teammate in the locker room. The Pacers really need him moving forward to get over the hump and get to the Finals next year." But he didn't. He said it was up to management. 5/31/2014 3:47:02 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
who cares what bitch made paul george and hibbert think
lance and david west were the only guys who consistently showed up 5/31/2014 4:35:53 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Ha! George isn't a superstar (yet), but he was by far the Pacers best player in the playoffs, not just leading them in scoring, defense, etc but coming through repeatedly in the clutch. 5/31/2014 9:34:41 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Stephenson reminds me a little of Hodge 6/1/2014 12:21:23 AM |
laxman490 All American 2385 Posts user info edit post |
^New York 6/1/2014 12:29:39 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Right, just that attitude and enthusiasm 6/1/2014 12:35:39 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
Hodge seems to like him 6/1/2014 10:10:43 AM |
KInge21 All American 574 Posts user info edit post |
Good gd, if they take Doug McDermott at #9... yuck.
Just reach on Warren at #9 and call it a day. He's hometown guy, obviously loads of scoring ability, and could help the team win next year.
McDermott will always be a liability on defense, has a crappy wingspan, is not very athletic and, like Hansdoush, was able to cover up his huge deficiencies in college with "hustle".
He's junk isn't gonna translate to NBA, and is simply not worth a top 10 draft pick.
[Edited on June 1, 2014 at 4:53 PM. Reason : .] 6/1/2014 4:52:54 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
they could probably trade to 15-16 if they want Warren 6/1/2014 5:06:28 PM |
Wyld Stallyn Suspended 1087 Posts user info edit post |
Warren is a huge stretch at #9. They could trade up a little further if they REALLY wanted him (for fanny in seat purposes), maybe give up the 2nd pick and a future 2nd rounder. But the 9th pick needs to be for someone with a proven 3 point shot. 6/2/2014 7:57:04 AM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
Mcdermott seems to be the next Adam Morrison to me. I'm hoping for Julius Randle to fall to #9. For the #24 spot, either Hood, Hairston or Warren would be good. 6/3/2014 8:58:49 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
McDermott is twice the shooter Morrison ever was. Also, his knee ligaments are intact.
I don't like the Hornets spacing or offensive flow if you pair Al with Randle. They are both ball-dominant post guys with limited range and no rim-protection. Better to pair Al with Vonleh or Payne, maybe even Saric or Nurkic.
Gimme Stauskas at #9.
[Edited on June 3, 2014 at 9:15 PM. Reason : 2] 6/3/2014 9:13:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
McBuckets also isn't a mental midget like The Stache was 6/3/2014 9:26:14 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
anyone going to that open house thing tomorrow
not sure what's happening at it other than Hugo being revealed, but meh 6/4/2014 5:56:09 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I'll be there, in all my glory
Congrats on 3rd team all NBA!
6/4/2014 6:19:13 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
It's too late for him. He's already at the end of his career. 6/4/2014 8:19:52 PM |