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aimorris
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u mad?

[Edited on September 1, 2015 at 8:09 AM. Reason : Luke Shaw is fat]

9/1/2015 8:07:40 AM

wazza31
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yes I am pissed ddg is still part of this team, doesn't deserve to be here at all.

9/1/2015 9:28:22 AM

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Did Benitez say fact before each of the points?

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"OFFICIAL STATEMENT | 01/09/2015

After the events of yesterday in relation to the alleged hiring of David de Gea player, Real Madrid wishes to state:
1. Manchester United did not open through negotiation by the federal rights of David de Gea until morning yesterday.

2.- Real Madrid, despite the difficulties of an operation of this kind in the last day of registration, you agreed to initiate these conversations.

3. When the Manchester United accessed through negotiation this morning yesterday makes it contingent to reaching an agreement with Real Madrid player Keylor Navas to be incorporated from the British club this season, and reports that contacts with representatives of the player.

4. Real Madrid and Manchester United reach a rapid agreement on the transfer of both players. After the drafting of the relevant contractual documents required and in order to proceed with sufficient time to process both the FIFA Transfer Matching System (TMS) as its entry in the LFP time, Real Madrid Manchester United forwards contracts at 13 . 39 hour Spanish

5. The Manchester United sent its comments to the contracts eight hours later, at 21:43 Spanish time, including minor modifications. Not being relevant, all changes were accepted immediately by Real Madrid, with the intention to register the player while both TMS and Professional Football League.

6. Real Madrid after signatures Players and Keylor Navas De Gea, sent the English club said contracts signed at 23:32 Spanish time, we await to receive the final documents signed by Manchester United.

7. The Manchester United reached the final agreement with representatives of Keylor Navas at 23:53 Spanish time and is at that time when the contracts are sent to the player to be signed.

8. The Manchester United entered the TMS data from the operation of David de Gea, not those of Keylor Navas, at 00:00 Spanish time, simultaneously referring to Real Madrid transfer contracts signed.Real Madrid receives the full documentation at 00:02 and tries to access the TMS but it was already closed.

9. At 00:26 Spanish time the computer system of FIFA TMS makes an invitation to Real Madrid to fill Player data David de Gea, given that the deadline for registration in England remains open to this day. Real Madrid, in the eventuality of a contentious course of the transfer of the player, decided to refer the contract to the Professional Football League, even knowing that the deadlines had expired.

10. In short, the Real Madrid has made everything you need, and at all times, to carry out these two transfers
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9/1/2015 9:29:35 AM

wazza31
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lol what a pathetic club. That statement reeks of entitlement.

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"1. Manchester United did not open through negotiation by the federal rights of David de Gea until morning yesterday."


lol. United have been saying for 3 months what the price for DDG is and Madrid continued to low ball United with pathetic offers.


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"2.- Real Madrid, despite the difficulties of an operation of this kind in the last day of registration, you agreed to initiate these conversations."


Real did us a huge favor by agreeing to initiate these conversations.

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"The Manchester United sent its comments to the contracts eight hours later, at 21:43 Spanish time"


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"Real Madrid after signatures Players and Keylor Navas De Gea, sent the English club said contracts signed at 23:32 Spanish time,"


I like how they point out it took us 8 hours to get legally binding documents back to them (still 3 hours before the dealine) and it took Madrid two hours to get signatures from ddg and navas. Really? Shouldn't these two players be ready to sign whatever as soon as Madrid reviewed and agreed to our terms? What a joke.

9/1/2015 9:53:10 AM

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So, what happens next? Do we play him in the PL and in the CL?

9/1/2015 10:21:31 AM

jdennis86
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I would play him

but the process is match fitness and rhythm so I don't expect to see him until December and then dropped for the January transfer window

9/1/2015 10:34:20 AM

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that is the golden question now that it isn't going to go through. DDG will have to put it all behind him for another year and play his heart out with the euro's coming up. Hopefully he comes to his senses and signs a new deal with United now that Madrid have fucked him over.

9/1/2015 11:12:10 AM

aimorris
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too bad he's a cunt

9/1/2015 11:17:25 AM

wazza31
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Roy Keane is a cunt. If DDG signs a new contract I would reconsider him as our cunt at least. Until he goes to Real Madrid in 2017....

9/1/2015 11:20:48 AM

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Real may be a farce but United's windows since SAF left have been complete shitshows. I mean cringeworthy stuff..

9/1/2015 11:53:17 AM

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all trolling aside, United/LVG made it worse by sitting him (unless he asked not play?) to start the season. Either tell Real to fuck off or sell him earlier and make sure you have a good goalkeeper.

9/1/2015 11:56:22 AM

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We were ready to sell him, everyone knew the price too. Madrid waited till lunch time on deadline day to make an offer.

I can understand sitting De Gea, its clear his head wasn't in it.

On Martial's fee:
Anthony Martial Confirmed Fee: €50m(£36m), plus €30m addons (€5m each time he is league top scorer up to 3 times, €5 if he wins Golden Boy, €10m if he wins Balon D'or)

I would say if we end up paying £60 million for him he would be well worth it. Crazy money for a 19 year old but united can afford the risk.

Nym410: I would say united had a much better transfer window than arsenal did.

[Edited on September 1, 2015 at 12:12 PM. Reason : K]

9/1/2015 12:09:20 PM

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Saido's pissed

9/1/2015 12:14:38 PM

GingaNinja
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Smile dude, you're at the greatest club in the world!!

9/1/2015 12:18:07 PM

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"Real may be a farce but United's windows since SAF left have been complete shitshows. I mean cringeworthy stuff..
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Just remember mate, we're talking about net spend
https://vine.co/v/ew07mQYPK5j

9/1/2015 12:20:09 PM

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He is just waiting for his dream move to PSG.

9/1/2015 12:21:12 PM

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"Real may be a farce but United's windows since SAF left have been complete shitshows. I mean cringeworthy stuff.."


Blind, Shaw, Memphis, Herrera, Mata, Fellaini, Basti, and Schneiderlin is very cringeworthy indeed. Falcao was a good gamble that didn't pay off. Martial is a gamble and we will see if it was worth it. Di Maria and Falcao are the only ones who truly failed. Yet we recouped most of Di Maria's fee. Very cringeworthy indeed.

Only complaints I have with the transfer policy is:
- Pedro, we fucked that up.
- DDG contract should have been sorted last year and not allowed to run down to one year.
- Januzaj/Wilson/Mcnair need to get more chances. One thing I was excited about LVG was his youth development. While kids like Shaw and Memphis have been given opportunities I want to see United's academy kids get the same kind of chances too. Still don't agree with Adnan on loan to Dortmund.

9/1/2015 12:48:25 PM

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i blame adidas

9/1/2015 1:27:37 PM

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Herrera was a picture perfect transfer. Nothing odd or farcical about that one. Nope.

9/1/2015 2:27:00 PM

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United Timeline

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"Manchester United notes Real Madrid’s statement on the attempt to sign David De Gea and sell Navas to Manchester United. The Club feels compelled to provide some clarification with the following facts.

• Manchester United did not seek contact from Real Madrid for the sale of David. David is a key member of our squad and the club’s preference was not to sell. • No offer was received for David until yesterday.

• At lunchtime yesterday, Real Madrid made its first offer to buy David. A deal was agreed between the clubs, which included Navas being transferred to Old Trafford. The deals were dependent on each other.

• In the last several hours of the process, with Navas at the Real Madrid training ground, Real Madrid were controlling the documentation processes of David, Navas and Real Madrid. Manchester United was in control only of the documentation of Manchester United.

• Manchester United sent transfer documents for both players to Real Madrid at 2042 BST. David’s documentation was returned by Real Madrid to Manchester United without the signatory page at 2232 BST.

• At 22:40 BST, minutes before the deadline, major changes to the documentation came through to Manchester United which immediately put the deals at risk. • Only at 2255 BST were the documents that are needed to cancel David’s contract received by Manchester United from Real Madrid.

• At this point Navas’ documentation was still not returned by Real Madrid.

• At 2258 BST, the transfer agreement was sent back by Manchester United, uploaded onto TMS and accepted – all before the deadline.

• It is our understanding that the deals couldn’t happen because:

- Real Madrid didn’t upload David’s documents onto TMS in time (Manchester United did)

- Real Madrid didn’t upload David’s documents to the Spanish league in time, per reports it seems some 28 minutes after the deadline • The fact that Manchester United filed the papers on time was acknowledged by the Football Association, who offered to support that claim in any discussions with FIFA. The Club offered this assistance, as well as its own timestamped documents to Real Madrid but they have chosen not to go down this route.

Manchester United acts appropriately and efficiently in its transfer dealings. The Club is delighted that its fan-favourite double Player of the Year, David de Gea, remains a Manchester United player."


[Edited on September 1, 2015 at 2:40 PM. Reason : ]

In the end:


[Edited on September 1, 2015 at 2:44 PM. Reason : ]

9/1/2015 2:39:39 PM

GingaNinja
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Madrid got trolled. This will teach those bitch asses a lesson in future transfer dealings with us.

[Edited on September 1, 2015 at 2:57 PM. Reason : ]

9/1/2015 2:56:41 PM

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"Herrera was a picture perfect transfer. Nothing odd or farcical about that one. Nope."


So you are saying Moyes had no idea what he was doing. Congrats, we knew that already.

All of our other transfers have been absolutely smooth if all you are referring to is the dealings itself. Which is what I am assuming you are doing since Herrera has been a very good player for us on the field.

Now Arsenal on the other hand... well there weren't any real deals to begin with haha. How long before Wenger says "I could have signed him at 16" in relation to Martial? Hopefully after the hattrick he has at the emirates.


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"Manchester United acts appropriately and efficiently in its transfer dealings. The Club is delighted that its fan-favourite double Player of the Year, David de Gea, remains a Manchester United player.""


In other words, fuck off you soft Spanish cunts.


[Edited on September 1, 2015 at 3:30 PM. Reason : a]

9/1/2015 3:29:15 PM

aimorris
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9/1/2015 3:55:43 PM

GingaNinja
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF85IZOLT6M

9/1/2015 5:19:51 PM

wazza31
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lots of new sources saying DDG will sign a new contract. Probably unreliable but if DDG does sign a new contract then United have won in this situation. I would applaud our board and Woodward if this turns out to be true.

He will still end up at Madrid but only after 1 more year and a very big fee.

9/2/2015 10:48:57 AM

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So he doesn't want to be in Manchester, made that clear, he's going take a raise from you for for 12 months and then bounce to bigger club. Sounds like De Gea won to me.

9/2/2015 10:54:33 AM

GingaNinja
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You conveniently exclude the fact that he's going to play... for his spot in the Euros.

9/2/2015 10:55:41 AM

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Except we still get a huge fee out of it and not for free. Getting him for another year to scout a suitable replacement is also big. De Gea deserves more wages, that is true so we are rightly paying him what he has earned. In return he leaves amicably and commands a fee worthy of his stature. Madrid already got embarrassed here and their fans saving grace was yeah whatever we still get him for free next year. This would prevent that. Sounds like a win-win for united and De Gea.

9/2/2015 10:57:06 AM

GingaNinja
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Maybe even get Lloris on the cheap, how many years on his contract?

[Edited on September 2, 2015 at 10:59 AM. Reason : ]

9/2/2015 10:58:44 AM

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fuck Lloris, I honestly don't rate him as highly as everyone else is. Plus Levy is an absolute bastard to deal with in the transfer market. Rather we bring in Leno/Trapp or someone else.

9/2/2015 11:01:19 AM

GingaNinja
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yep, fuck Tottenham

9/2/2015 11:02:39 AM

NyM410
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Ok he's such a fan boy. Cracks me up...

9/2/2015 2:01:59 PM

wazza31
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cracks you up that I have my opinion about Lloris? Tell me more about how having a difference of opinion makes me a fanboy.

Also if that comment is referring to DDG then you have to be an absolute idiot to think that United didn't win out in the transfer saga if DDG signs a new contract. At that point you have just run out of excuses to hate on United and just patronizing.

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"I honestly think this is Arsenal's best chance to win a trophy."


Referring to the PL, not just a trophy.

Such a fanboy I had United winning the quadruple this year and Arsenal getting relegated!

[Edited on September 2, 2015 at 2:21 PM. Reason : a]

9/2/2015 2:19:44 PM

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Need to make a new banner to add Woodward

9/2/2015 2:47:15 PM

wazza31
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I am honored you went through all of that trouble just for me. Feel so special.

9/2/2015 2:55:39 PM

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You called Real a farce and when I said United has been a comedy show post SAF you went on to list all the "good business" they've done.

Considering Real buy the best players in the world it's inconsistent to call them a farce with what you consider successful windows.

Look it's ok to say they've had some real comedy sagas the last two years. FFS they got duped by imposter lawyers with Herrera.

You can do it.

9/2/2015 3:06:50 PM

GingaNinja
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lol. Goddamn don't remind me abt the imposter lawyer thing

9/2/2015 3:08:58 PM

wazza31
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haha. I already said Moyes was clueless and everyone has beaten this horse to death but that transfer window under Moyes was horrid. So really the best you can bring up is something that happened two years ago under a clueless manager and which he has already been criticized for, well done.

LVG came in after being at the World Cup till the second last day of the tournament and finishing third. He was faced with a massive job of clearing the deadwood and bringing in players to get back into the CL. If you look at the deals done then they were swift and very good.

Now this year the deals have been very good but United screwed up towards the last week in not bringing in an effective striker. I agree with the departures of RVP and Chicha but to also let Januzaj go without an effective striker in the squad was a bit of a shit show. De Gea very clearly was not our fault, but of course you won't agree. Now we have him for another year so really the only weaknesses we didn't address is at CB (Yet our defense has played well) and we may have gotten a very talented striker but not one who can contribute immediately.

Carry on being a poor troll though. Also to put this into context I don't expect this team to challenge for the title the way they have played but I can very clearly see LVG building for the future. Very satisfied with this transfer window.

Arsenal on the other hand have a golden opportunity to finally win another title and they did jack shit all summer.

9/2/2015 4:12:57 PM

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An excellent article about how United have slashed their wages by clearing out the deadwood. We are building for the future.

http://www.givemesport.com/598897-manchester-united-sealed-transfers-with-30m-wage-savings

9/2/2015 4:17:09 PM

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I'd say the same about liverpools transfer window too. I think it was a solid window that allows them to put down a good base.

Both teams are missing that one big player like Hazard, Suarez, or Ronaldo. United have Memphis, Shaw, and now Martial who could potentially develop into great players but with Rooney's decline there just isn't that magical player who can take the reigns and win you a match. Liverpool have the same in Coutinho, Firminio, and Ibe. Still though both teams are lacking that x-factor I would say.

I am just hoping Rooney somehow rediscovers his form and we also go back to being a bit more direct in attack. Too many times have we passed the ball sideways or backwards. Rooney and Memphis need to start running at defenders and really put pressure on the counter.

9/2/2015 4:36:28 PM

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who's in charge of recycling possession this season?

9/2/2015 7:59:29 PM

aimorris
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welp. I just picked up Martial in my fantasy keeper league and I hate myself now.

9/3/2015 9:03:44 AM

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^ I am giving my self one more match before dropping Rooney. I hope Martial gets you some points with a hattrick next weekend!

9/3/2015 9:24:58 AM

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11839398/Manchester-United-upgrade-IT-systems-in-the-wake-of-David-de-Gea-transfer-saga.html

9/3/2015 9:43:37 AM

aimorris
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more like Anthony Farcical amirite

9/3/2015 9:46:41 AM

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"who's in charge of recycling possession this season?"


Some German dude

9/3/2015 9:54:14 AM

aimorris
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9/4/2015 10:43:18 AM

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Does that mean Van Gaal will eventually go to a Spanish club not named Madrid or Barca?

9/4/2015 10:50:30 AM

wazza31
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lol. Love these one sided stats. Just goes to show how many people actually watch vs how many people love to circlejerk.

9/4/2015 11:14:45 AM

aimorris
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what's the other side of the stats you want to use to compare two coaches?


[Edited on September 4, 2015 at 11:52 AM. Reason : no trolling, I want to hear your other side of the argument]

9/4/2015 11:29:46 AM

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