justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2903.11v2 12/28/2017 9:45:42 AM |
stevedude hello 4763 Posts user info edit post |
bail seems low 12/28/2017 10:21:49 AM |
themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
Just saw a Pic of the defendants. The 3 I saw were dressed inappropriately for court and Markell had on a State shirt. Really didnt like him rep'in State in court. 12/28/2017 11:22:44 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on December 28, 2017 at 11:28 AM. Reason : .]12/28/2017 11:28:09 AM |
yrey All American 1150 Posts user info edit post |
This doesn't look good, i'll just assume that he doesn't make it back for the rest of the season. With him I thoought we would go 9-9 in ACC and make it to the NCAA. Without him, i'll just have to wait and see how the season unfolds. I'm interested to see if Batts steps up as I with his quickness and athleticism I believe that he can be a NBA player.
^^ LOL 12/28/2017 11:56:06 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Dumb. Why even get near these situations 12/28/2017 1:35:59 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
the gott that keeps on giving 12/28/2017 2:00:36 PM |
yrey All American 1150 Posts user info edit post |
^^ He's still a kid, how many stupid things we done when we were that age except that we didnt get caught or werent an athelete on a D1 program. I'm not happy, but the details are still vague at this stage. Regardless if he returns or not I hope he learns from the experience and become a better person. I don't know him but he seemed like a good kid, perhaps he was hanging around the wrong crowd. 12/28/2017 2:14:17 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
I never allegedly committed felony assault as a kid 12/28/2017 2:41:51 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but the details are still vague at this stage." |
He's been accused of felony assault, pretty sure all the details are known, just not to the public.12/28/2017 2:50:23 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
knowing markell he prolly only assisted the other guys 12/28/2017 2:54:28 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
^you also coulda made a joke about theft since his steal numbers are good. he's a poor shooter so that's probably why there's no mention of a gun in any of this. just work shopping a few jokes. somebody else can dress 'em up and make them really zing.
[Edited on December 28, 2017 at 3:02 PM. Reason : ly] 12/28/2017 3:02:05 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but the details are still vague at this stage. " |
Seriously. He could be accused of anything from beating the shit out of some guy to having AIDS and banging a mentally handicapped person. Felonious assault in Ohio has a very, very, very broad definition.12/28/2017 3:07:39 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He's still a kid, how many stupid things we done when we were that age except that we didnt get caught or werent an athelete on a D1 program." |
In their college careers, how many people commit felonious assault and don't get caught for it?
I'd expect leniency on alcohol or weed violations since everyone actually does that, but not all misdeeds are equivalent.12/28/2017 3:13:10 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
^every frat dude basically 12/28/2017 3:18:53 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
At best it appears he needs new friends. Im gonna guess hr went back home over break, hung out with high school friends who had beef with someone and while he maybe sidnt throw punches, he went with them. Even if he didnt actually commit assault, he needs to do some serious thinking about how to handle his life decisions from here on out 12/28/2017 3:26:30 PM |
yrey All American 1150 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " He's been accused of felony assault, pretty sure all the details are known, just not to the public. " |
Maybe, I don’t know much about law. I thought the case is still pending as they’re still gathering evidence like DNA samples which I thought meant they had some of the details but not all.
Quote : | " Seriously. He could be accused of anything from beating the shit out of some guy to having AIDS and banging a mentally handicapped person. Felonious assault in Ohio has a very, very, very broad definition." |
Odd example but hypothetically those actions falls under codes (1) and (2) part b of felonious actions.
Quote : | " (1) Cause serious physical harm to another or to another's unborn; (2) Cause or attempt to cause physical harm to another or to another's unborn by means of a deadly weapon or dangerous ordnance. (B) No person, with knowledge that the person has tested positive as a carrier of a virus that causes acquired immunodeficiency syndrome, shall knowingly do any of the following: (1) Engage in sexual conduct with another person without disclosing that knowledge to the other person prior to engaging in the sexual conduct; (2) Engage in sexual conduct with a person whom the offender knows or has reasonable cause to believe lacks the mental capacity to appreciate the significance of the knowledge that the offender has tested positive as a carrier of a virus that causes acquired immunodeficiency syndrome; (3) Engage in sexual conduct with a person under eighteen years of age who is not the spouse of the offender. " |
Taken from here: http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2903.11v1
Quote : | " (4) "Sexual conduct" has the same meaning as in section 2907.01 of the Revised Code, except that, as used in this section, it does not include the insertion of an instrument, apparatus, or other object that is not a part of the body into the vaginal or anal opening of another, unless the offender knew at the time of the insertion that the instrument, apparatus, or other object carried the offender's bodily fluid." |
[Edited on December 28, 2017 at 3:32 PM. Reason : details]12/28/2017 3:27:27 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
so wait... its only a misdemeanor to stick a dildo up somone as long as, to the best of your knowlege, it doesn't have your juices on it?
asking for a friend.... 12/28/2017 3:34:30 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/nc-state/state-now/article191955339.html
Quote : | "According to the Cleveland police report, Blackwell suffered a broken left orbital bone and a concussion. He posted a photo of himself, bloodied, on Facebook on Oct. 8." |
there's also a picture in that article. dude got beat up bad.12/28/2017 4:53:52 PM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
dude lives on FB - https://www.facebook.com/michael.blackwell.583
not sure how he found the time to get into a fight
Quote : | "Michael Blackwell: Niggas jumped me. I was this was an App because I wouldn't use it" |
[Edited on December 28, 2017 at 5:33 PM. Reason : also he's got a serious problem with women]]12/28/2017 5:22:55 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
so this dude ex-con (just saw a FB post where he said he'd been in prison) got beat up by a bunch of kids half his age? WTG big guy.
https://www.facebook.com/michael.blackwell.583/posts/10213981789886265
Quote : | "I'm glad I dont sell Drugs anymore.
Yesterday I took a nap and I had a dream that I went to jail for selling drugs. I woke up ate some ice cream and was chilling then I went back to sleep. Then I had another dream that I went to jail for selling drugs" |
https://www.facebook.com/michael.blackwell.583/posts/10213862438222548
Quote : | "Welp just got jumped again tonight this time my hands and weave game came into play...
Both niggas bigger than me not a scatch on me." |
also fun fact: this dude is FB friends with Markell & another defendant, Demarious Green.
also https://www.facebook.com/michael.blackwell.583/posts/10205303425332575
Quote : | "Last game my Protege Markell Johnson had 31 against Butchel tonight we play Beachwood" |
Holy shit this dude has a ton of posts about Markell. Makes me wonder if he wasn't trying to get his hand in the pot and get some money from him or something]12/28/2017 6:15:44 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
^Jesus are you seriously trying to dig up dirt on a victim in here?
When did this site become statefansnation? 12/28/2017 6:37:45 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
No, I'm just perusing his very public, very dumb Facebook page.
And the guy has a habit of "getting jumped" apparently.
And I just find it interesting that he and Markell were apparently close at one point, which is odd to me that a (at the time HS basketball player) would be friends with a guy fresh out of prison who is 18 years his senior. Nowhere have I said that this guy deserved to get the shit beat out of him or that Johnson is innocent. I think this case is quite compelling actually. I also think in all likelihood Johnson is done at State.] 12/28/2017 6:43:43 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
I too think it’s weird to post his Facebook statuses but whatever 12/28/2017 7:23:20 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
So the assault happened on October 8th, but the charges weren't filed until December 5th? 12/28/2017 7:23:52 PM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I don't. He's got it out there for public consumption.
^ yup 12/28/2017 7:30:46 PM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "According to the Oct. 8 Cleveland police report, Blackwell said he got into a verbal altercation with Johnson. Blackwell said Johnson struck him in the face “about 10 times” before he fought back. In the police report, Blackwell also says that Green, Melton and Pullum threw punches and grabbed his neck before Blackwell bit one of his attackers." |
Most of the #sources were claiming wrong place wrong time, but if the above is even mildly accurate that's not the case.
I wouldn't expect a fast resolution on this, and imo the longer it goes on the worse it is for Johnson. I'm wondering if the charges get reduced to/he gets convicted of a misdemeanor then he'll be able to play...12/28/2017 7:55:45 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
All I’m saying is I don’t really give a fuck what his Facebook statuses are. Seems kinda weird to go through them all. I’m not saying it’s wrong. 12/28/2017 7:57:35 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
We're all curious about what happened and what impact it will have on this year's team and Markell's future. Getting a glimpse at the victim's daily musings and postings can give some context, especially things like the fact like he and Markell are FB friends and clearly have a history, it's not some random dude that he met that night.
rwoody trying to act like it's the same thing as blaming rape victims and whatnot
[Edited on December 28, 2017 at 8:08 PM. Reason : .] 12/28/2017 8:06:12 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
This is the wolf web...but yet you think that is weird?
10 years ago we would already have his phone number and know what he likes on his pizza.
He makes public posts, I see no reason not to post them on here. ____
side note: Sounds like he got whooped for talking junk to these guys and Markell was the face to place the blame on since he already knew him. Good lawyers may be able to get it reduced if not make it disappear. 12/28/2017 8:09:34 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
If he got jumped and had his orbital bone broken and got a concussion, I'm not sure how much context matters.
Who cares if he is an ex con, has been jumped before or knows Markell unless you want a way to say he deserved to get jumped? 12/28/2017 8:32:22 PM |
yrey All American 1150 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I too think it’s weird to post his Facebook statuses but whatever" |
What I think is weird is the guy used a pic of his busted up face as his profile pic. I can only speak for myself, but that's not something I'll do.
Quote : | "Good lawyers may be able to get it reduced if not make it disappear." |
Markell's attorney is a guy named John Paris. The attorney I could find in Cleveland with that name has one review here: https://www.avvo.com/attorneys/44108-oh-john-paris-554765.html
I'm not 100% confident that's the same guy as his speciality listed is bankruptcy.
Quote : | " According to the Oct. 8 Cleveland police report, Blackwell said he got into a verbal altercation with Johnson. Blackwell said Johnson struck him in the face “about 10 times” before he fought back. In the police report, Blackwell also says that Green, Melton and Pullum threw punches and grabbed his neck before Blackwell bit one of his attackers " |
Sounds like bullshit. I'm suppose to believe that a guy who's supposedly been to prison will get struck 10 times in the face before retaliating? What did he say? Crack about Markell's 3 point shooting?
Yes, I'm biased but something's not adding up.12/28/2017 8:37:31 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Who cares if he is an ex con, has been jumped before or knows Markell unless you want a way to say he deserved to get jumped?" |
Who says it went down the way he says it did?
[Edited on December 28, 2017 at 8:46 PM. Reason : guilty until proven innocent]12/28/2017 8:39:12 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
^I would advocate to not try to investigate the case
That will allow you to not assume Markell is guilty but also not attempt to prosecute the victim 12/28/2017 9:39:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Is this thread going to sway some jurors or something? 12/28/2017 9:58:53 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Look its dirtbag fan behavior to try to drag someone that accuses their player of a crime. Every fanbase does it and its always weird, at best.
But I'm not going to convince anyone so I'm out 12/28/2017 10:03:03 PM |
slumdog Veteran 104 Posts user info edit post |
The Kels era is over. Really thought he would be the one to benefit most from Keatt's system. TBH I thought Beverly wouldn't play more than garbage time this year (i.e. Kirk role). Now he's maybe the most critical piece. 12/29/2017 12:11:00 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
^^yeah
i'm not trying to act morally superior to anybody. it's a public facebook page...read it all you want, that's fine. but i wouldn't take anything i read on it too seriously. i don't really see what purpose it serves, and it just seems kinda weird like i said. but y'all carry on.
does seem like this would be difficult to prove one way or the other unless there's several witnesses there or some video footage. otherwise it's just he said/he said, right? 12/29/2017 6:47:59 AM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i don't really see what purpose it serves" |
Quote : | "We're all curious about what happened and what impact it will have on this year's team and Markell's future. Getting a glimpse at the victim's daily musings and postings can give some context, especially things like the fact like he and Markell are FB friends and clearly have a history, it's not some random dude that he met that night." |
12/29/2017 12:14:33 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe not wear your state hoodie in court... 12/29/2017 3:59:43 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
^^i ain't on the jury. his fucking facebook posts probably are meaningless in the scope of the case. 12/29/2017 8:12:50 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Ok. Do whatever it takes to get Markell back on the court. 12/30/2017 6:15:02 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
wtf we play our 2nd game vs clemson on January 11th? typo on espn? 1/7/2018 1:37:27 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Are you new here? 1/7/2018 8:18:06 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that is correct 1/7/2018 9:02:32 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
^^Yes. I haven't really looked at the ACC schedule in the last several years for obvious reasons. 1/7/2018 2:48:11 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
I can't think why an NC State fan wouldn't knowing the basics of an nc state schedule.
I mean for the first time since I was 8, I intentionally skipped games but I still knew who we played
[Edited on January 7, 2018 at 4:56 PM. Reason : A] 1/7/2018 4:55:41 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Yall probably already know, but they have been putting out a doc series for the season called Wolfpack Hustle similar to the Pack One series they did for football. Really good stuff.
Here's the latest episode for the Duke/ND games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hM96E0AZB4 1/8/2018 9:00:35 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^i watched the first few and need to catch up. Good stuff indeed. 1/8/2018 9:35:46 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
^^ good shit man. 1/8/2018 9:42:01 AM |