Really? In a world where our government has to deal with threats of terrorism, natural disasters, drugs, shitty health care and education systems, not to mention we are currently in the middle of a war on foreign soil, you're ok with them spending god knows how much money and resources to help Microsoft and Nintendo execs pad their pockets? Look, I'm not advocating video game piracy, it is illegal and you have to accept the risks and possible consequences of your actions. However, it seems like an extremely trivial thing for the feds to be "cracking down on".

8/30/2007 11:06:33 AM

Dude, its not like they're sitting at the border watching trucks of heroin and kiddie porn go by and then stopping the truck with mod chips. DEA is going to be mostly responsible for drugs. ICE is going to be mostly responsible for illegal shipments, which yes can include drugs, but typically is other stuff. If you can show me one iota of evidence that the resources spent on this raid prevented another raid on the kiddie porn market, I'll listen to you, until then...quit bitching.


Also I somehow doubt much money and investigative time went into this. Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo was prolly like "Here is the location of a mod factory and here in evidence"...ICE looked at it, agreed with it, and went in.

[Edited on August 30, 2007 at 11:08 AM. Reason : a]

8/30/2007 11:07:15 AM

Even still, I feel anti-piracy should be the responsibility of the companies who make the damn things, and they shouldn't go crying to Uncle Sam because they put 0 effort into making their consoles hacker proof. MS and Sony use regular firmware updates to make it difficult for hackers to keep up, why doesn't Nintendo do the same?

8/30/2007 11:17:33 AM

No system is hacker proof...what you just said is the equivalent of Banks not being able to bitch if someone hacks into their atms and steal money.

Nintendo and Microsoft put plenty of effort into making their systems hacker proof...do you really want them to put more into it? I mean look at issues you have when companies go overboard with copyright protection..take Bioshock (PC) for example...it basically installs spyware on your computer to make sure you're using a legitimate copy

^ They do.

[Edited on August 30, 2007 at 11:30 AM. Reason : a]

8/30/2007 11:23:25 AM

Of course no system is hacker proof, but ffs, you have to at least try. I remember when I first ran pirated games on my Gamecube, there was no mod chip. I had to do some crazy shit where I ran a fake Phantasy Star Online server and stream ISO's over it through the Gamecube's broadband adapter. How many people do you think would go through that kind of trouble? For the Wii, they made the hardware so damn similar to the Gamecube, that hackers were able to modify the modchip they'd spent years figuring out for the Gamecube in no time to work for the Wii.

MS changes the firmware on their disc drives so that it's at least a moving target, and you also can't play on XBox Live at all with pirated games. The Wii hasn't done any of that. You could pirate Strikers Charged and play it online day one. Sony releases a firmware update every month that makes it damn near impossible for a successful mod chip/hack to ever work on the PS3. Sure, the Bioshock thing sucked but I personally had no problem with it and that rumor of spyware (it's called a rootkit), turned out not to be true.

The analogy of yours doesn't work, because Banks have some of the most secured systems in the world and are very rarely ever robbed, except at gun point. What I'm saying is equivalent to a bank leaving their vault unlocked and open and complaining when someone walks in and takes money out.

8/30/2007 11:32:17 AM

if games came down to $30-$40, I don't think there would be nearly the market for mod chips

The fact that 1 game runs $60, yet if you try and sell it back because you don't want it anymore, you get $20 at the most

it's basically like textbooks. Keep coming out with new editions that you have to have, and once it's been used the price drops dramatically...until the store tries to resell it.

8/30/2007 11:34:16 AM

some of the console updates were bricking the systems with mod chips

8/30/2007 11:35:12 AM

^Yep. Nintendo is even nice enough to warn you lol.

Sony I know shut down a lot of places through the gubment even if they weren't doing anything illegal. Anyone remember bleem?

[Edited on August 30, 2007 at 11:56 AM. Reason : .]

8/30/2007 11:55:21 AM

those bricked systems are still able to be modded. plenty have done them for the Wii.

8/30/2007 11:58:58 AM

The only games I download are the ones I wouldn't pay $50-60 for. I'd pay $40- for them (at most).

8/30/2007 1:16:55 PM

ok so i have some Wii burning stuff for sale:

i have the DVD rom drive, the special LG one enclosed in an external drive enclosure.

it works perfect for burning your owned games for backups.

$50.

all you do is plug the power into the wall, and plug the drive into the USB and you start ripping.

8/30/2007 2:20:54 PM

called walmart, they had one in stock. i told the lady ill be there in 15 min. she held it til i got there..


SCORE nigs

8/30/2007 10:12:26 PM

^^or you could go to wiitorrents.net and save yourself some trouble.

8/31/2007 10:07:20 AM

yeah you could do that too..

8/31/2007 10:52:39 AM

ok so i just got one today....how do i get people into my mii plaza?

9/2/2007 1:49:15 AM

how do u get into wiitorrents.net

9/2/2007 2:08:32 AM

i played the wii yesterday for the first time...it was pretty fun i guess...i played tennis and bowling...liked tennis more

9/2/2007 4:11:52 AM

you gotta make some Mii's to put in your plaza, or import during a parade or something.. but you gotta have some sort of connection to the internet so other peoples Miis will come into yours.

for Wiitorrent you need an invite.

9/4/2007 8:35:59 AM

I saw one at Target in Gboro yesterday...I should have bought it

9/4/2007 8:37:04 AM

costco in durham this weekend had at least 20 wiis. i would have posted here earlier using my phone but it died.

9/4/2007 8:47:55 AM

bought tiger woods 08, and also put a $5 deposit for guitar hero 3..

if you want to put a deposit, i recomend going to best buy, because the promotion the have is a free guitar strap, ebgames/gamestop only give you a poster.

only downside is that its not a "guarantee", they get the certain amount of that game sent to customer service so you dont have to go wonder around for it on the sales grounds.

but i think ebgames/gamestop does guarantee a copy. and they said something about competing, so if you tell them best buy has the strap as a promotion, they might give you one also.

9/4/2007 10:40:53 AM

holy crap... so i put in tiger woods 08 last night, and man talk about a difference...

07 was sooo easy, 08 is pretty tricky compared. they def. tweaked it up a bit. and it even goes into swing detail, you can set your player up with the swing stance that you want.

man, its goooood stuff, but real damn tricky. its nothing like 07. they did good

[Edited on September 5, 2007 at 9:34 AM. Reason : er]

9/5/2007 9:32:59 AM

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/06/mario-kart-wii-supports-16-online-includes-ds-maps/#comments

Quote :

"Apparently MKW will support up to 16 players in a game (does that translate to 16 different characters?) and will be the first in the series to offer Battle Mode online. Oh, and you can now perform stunts in the air."

This is taken from the Official Nintendo Magazine in the UK. They later said the article was speculative though.

9/6/2007 11:01:24 AM

has anybody heard anything more about lego batman and lego indiana jones? i can't wait for those. i <3 the lego series mucho

9/6/2007 5:10:47 PM

Picked up Tiger Woods 08 today...really liking it. Not nearly as deep as the PC editions I've been playing the last few years, but it's fun to swing the remote.

9/6/2007 8:23:54 PM

^^^ WTF? Have they not played mario kart DS, you can race multiples of the same character. How does 16 player mean 16 different characters?

9/6/2007 9:32:59 PM

^ they're hoping that having 16 characters playable will mean that nintendo will make at least 16 different characters to choose from. they tend to make enough characters so that they don't need doubles. MK DS had 13 characters, so it wouldn't be hard to scrounge up 3 more

hell, the could just take the set list from double dash (20)... although what would really be cool would be to make every character that was ever playable from the other MK games and have them.

[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 12:51 PM. Reason : .]

9/7/2007 12:49:00 PM

They need to bring back the Koopa Trooper.

9/7/2007 2:24:06 PM

Release Dates for Games I Give a Shit About

Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock 10/28
Manhunt 2 10/31
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn 11/5
Soulcalibur Legends 11/6
Super Mario Galaxy 11/12
Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law 11/13
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles 11/13
Trauma Center: New Blood 11/13
Rayman Raving Rabbids 2 11/13
Super Smash Bros. Brawl 12/3

and Mario Kart Wii, Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian, Top Spin Tennis, Harvest Moon: Tree of Peace sometime in 2008

9/7/2007 10:54:36 PM

November is going to a big fucking drain on my wallet

9/7/2007 10:55:21 PM

Quote :

"November is going to a big fucking drain on my wallet student loans.."

9/7/2007 11:01:15 PM

There's also Zelda: Phantom Hourglass on the DS

9/7/2007 11:07:31 PM

curling bitches.

9/9/2007 5:02:46 PM

i'm lookin forward to battalion wars

9/9/2007 6:17:36 PM

I would really like to see curling

9/9/2007 8:52:49 PM

holy god a harvest moon for wii ?! glorious

9/9/2007 9:22:29 PM

I hope that it is good, I haven't been satisfied with any harvest moons since the 64 one.

9/9/2007 9:27:36 PM

^ the new DS ones are pretty good.

also, when are we getting a wii sports 2?

9/9/2007 9:29:55 PM

^ are you talking about the rune factory one? because that one seems too weird to me.

9/9/2007 9:55:06 PM

seriously...curling, how are you people not more excited about this

9/9/2007 11:16:28 PM

Quote :

"Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law 11/13"

great tv show, will be a horrible game

and curling would be absolute zero fun...on any other system, lol

9/10/2007 12:34:16 AM

E-Dawg, your list is lacking Dragon Blade.

9/10/2007 9:41:28 AM

I'm getting pretty excited about getting one of these for xmas

9/10/2007 3:35:35 PM

Curling is awesome. You dudes are fags.

9/10/2007 6:32:25 PM

haha...its funny when you go back and read the first few pages of the thread.

9/10/2007 6:45:44 PM

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/10/links-crossbow-training-bundled-with-wii-zapper-ships-nov-19/

Wii Zapper comes bundled with Link's Crossbow Training. huh.

9/10/2007 10:22:22 PM

^ Awesome, I'll get it.

9/11/2007 10:41:42 AM

Where THE FUCK can I buy one of these? No store has one. This is like shopping for a mentally defecient, big and tall woman. I hate it!

9/16/2007 12:31:20 PM

medal of honor...32 player online...no stupid friend codes (thank you EA)...if controls can be as good as metroid...oh holy shit

9/16/2007 2:04:13 PM

If you only look at the letters on the box that have stars on them...

U R MR GAY.

9/16/2007 3:54:16 PM