Quote :

"i'd have dipped into my 1911 fund for that 336. The one I bought I gave to my mom to keep out at the farm, and now I'm missing it."

you can come shoot it with me sometime

[Edited on August 19, 2012 at 5:21 PM. Reason : ads]

8/19/2012 5:21:23 PM

The gun I want isn't going to last long so I'm putting a combo type deal on this. I have a Charter Arms AR-7 that I will add to the deal with the FNP. Like new FNP9s are selling for anywhere from $400-$500 at some local dealers and the AR-7s are going for 200+ so I think $575 or best offer is reasonable. But as always I'll trade for a Sig or make me an offer!

8/19/2012 8:03:02 PM

I'm in the market for a MK-19. Anyone got one for sale?

8/19/2012 9:28:52 PM

http://www.urban-armory.com/cart/proddetail.php?prod=mk19

8/19/2012 10:38:49 PM

$480 will get the FNP/AR-7 pair, I'll be in Raleigh until 4 and need to buy the new gun today!

8/20/2012 2:05:23 PM

I am also in the market for a mk19

8/20/2012 2:29:54 PM

Pictures are up for my Savage MKII. It now wears a 3-9x40 scope and comes with a 10rnd mag. Shoots great!

$140 for the new package. Can meet around 540/Falls.

8/20/2012 7:30:21 PM

Interesting place to store your cereal.

8/21/2012 4:14:59 PM

Tried to make a "cereal pyramid". I had to take it down

8/21/2012 7:38:14 PM

Bump for my Kahr P9 from the previous page thats still for sale. Might be interested in partial trades for a home defense shotgun + cash as well.

8/22/2012 8:30:07 AM

i could use some .30-30 brass if anyone has any

8/22/2012 8:55:34 AM

^ Cross posting. Bad form.

8/22/2012 12:15:54 PM

not a single fuck is given

[Edited on August 22, 2012 at 12:37 PM. Reason : deer hunters will be sighting in at the range soon. should be some .30-30]

8/22/2012 12:36:06 PM

how much do you need...

i may have some after sat... probably ~60 ?

8/22/2012 3:59:05 PM

60 would be good. what headstamp(s)?

and would you be willing to put them in a small flat rate box if i paypal you some funds?



[Edited on August 22, 2012 at 6:02 PM. Reason : still need some dies. haven't found any local.]

8/22/2012 6:01:01 PM

Is anyone else here very opposed to buying a rifle that isn't NIB?

I'm totally down with used pistols and shotguns, but with rifles, where I want great accuracy and slight defects can negatively impact it, and I've seen how few people really know hot to clean and care for a rifle, I'm just not sure I could every roll the dice on it.

*i guess I would on a .22 plinker/short-range rifle (say, a lever-action .444 Marlin with iron sights, etc)

8/22/2012 11:43:36 PM

i have no problem buying a used rifle. if it won't shoot, just sell it. you've gotta really suck to lose money on a gun.

8/23/2012 6:35:24 AM

yeah i don't mind... i'll check the head stamp when i get home...

they're remington rounds

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/20rds-3030-remington-170gr-corelokt-soft-point-ammo

8/23/2012 7:58:06 AM

if they're all corelokt, the headstamp will be R-P. i can use them. shoot em up and let me know what i owe you.

8/23/2012 8:19:06 AM

anyone ever had trouble with the transfer of a firearm from anyone on tww? had a guy lined up to buy my ruger but when i asked about his purchase permit this is what i got as a response?

. . . "I believe all I have is a copy of the permit. It is also my old address. I bought several permits back in 2008 when I was still in college and my permanent address was my parents house. I scanned them all in for keeping, and have never had a problem when purchasing."

i'm not trying to bash or put this individuals personal business out there but when i asked for a copy of the permit so that i could verify with that county's sheriffs dept, the individual did not reply.

i could care less what you do with a firearm but when my name is on the registered serial number i believe i have every right to get as much info as possible from someone that i may be transferring said ownership to.

hypochondriac? absolutely but i'm not going to apologize but i'd love some feedback

[Edited on August 23, 2012 at 4:48 PM. Reason : sp]

8/23/2012 4:48:32 PM

you don't have to verify anything with the sheriff's dept.

they are required to give you the original copy of the purchase permit. you are supposed to verify that the name (and address, too, i guess) on the permit matches their driver's license. most folks keep the permit for their records, but that isn't really required either iirc.

8/23/2012 7:13:05 PM

^

8/23/2012 8:38:11 PM

Would I need a PPP if I were taking in a handgun in lieu of cash? For example I have my Kahr for sale on here (and other places) and have had some people offer a cheaper gun + cash to buy my Kahr. Would I, as the seller, need a PPP as well in that situation?

[Edited on August 23, 2012 at 9:42 PM. Reason : d]

8/23/2012 9:41:44 PM

yes

8/23/2012 9:51:16 PM

I thought you were required by law to keep a buyer's PPP indefinitely in case a firearm ever needed to be traced from the last owner on record to the current

8/24/2012 12:39:55 AM

I might've been wrong. Im getting conflicting answers.

[Edited on August 24, 2012 at 4:02 PM. Reason : hjk]

8/24/2012 3:55:22 PM

§ 14-406. Dealer to keep record of sales.

(a) Every dealer in pistols and other weapons mentioned in this Article shall keep an accurate record of all sales thereof, including the name, place of residence, date of sale, etc., of each person, firm, or corporation to whom or which such sales are made, which record shall be open to the inspection of any duly constituted State, county or police officer, within this State.




"Dealer" means anyone that sells a gun.

8/24/2012 8:50:42 PM

^says who? Where do they define dealer?

8/24/2012 9:12:34 PM

Here:

14-409.39. Definitions.

The following definitions apply in this Article:

(1) Dealer. Any person licensed as a dealer pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 921, et seq., or G.S. 105-80.

(2) Firearm. A handgun, shotgun, or rifle which expels a projectile by action of an explosion.

(3) Handgun. A pistol, revolver, or other gun that has a short stock and is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand. (1995 (Reg. Sess., 1996), c. 727, s. 1.)

8/24/2012 10:55:23 PM

Quote :

"(11)The term “dealer” means (A) any person engaged in the business of selling firearms at wholesale or retail, (B) any person engaged in the business of repairing firearms or of making or fitting special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms, or (C) any person who is a pawnbroker. The term “licensed dealer” means any dealer who is licensed under the provisions of this chapter. "

-18 USC 921



all i know is that everytime i've bought a handgun from an individual, i simply showed them my CHP and my driver's license and was on my way. they didn't record anything. you're saying that they were all in violation of the law?

8/24/2012 11:35:41 PM

Dealer is a FFL holder.

8/25/2012 12:19:54 AM

Do I need a title to sell a gun?
Do I have to have any sort of permit?

8/25/2012 2:51:33 PM

What kind of gun? What state are you in?

In NC, you as the seller don't need a permit to SELL a handgun (pistol). The buyer needs a permit to purchase one though.

Rifles (most) and shotguns do not require a purchase permit.

[Edited on August 25, 2012 at 3:00 PM. Reason : .]

8/25/2012 2:57:41 PM

NC

8/25/2012 3:05:16 PM

you don't need anything to sell them. the buyer will need a Handgun Purchase Permit or a Concealed Handgun Permit. you cannot sell to someone from another state without going through a Federal Firearms Licensee.

btw, i think you inherited them, right? you legally should've had a HPP or CHP to obtain them, even though you didn't buy them and you simply got them as part of an estate.

[Edited on August 25, 2012 at 9:51 PM. Reason : welcome to the world of fucked up gun laws]

8/25/2012 9:50:57 PM

Yes I inherited them.

8/25/2012 11:10:18 PM

if you can manage to get $100 a piece for those you'd be doing good

8/26/2012 8:01:11 AM

I've had several people tell me the contrary, but we shall see.

8/26/2012 12:35:15 PM

Quote :

"Here: 14-409.39. Definitions. "

That's a different article. You're in 53B and I'm in 52A. The way I understand it is that most of the smart folks have interpreted the NC statutes to require a private seller to keep records of who they sell a firearm to. My Libertarian side agrees with people that say that if they can show you a pistol permit or concealed carry permit, and an acceptable form of ID, you don't need to record anything. The sheriff gave them a permit to buy a pistol, so you're covered.


My middle-ground sense says that if you sell a single pistol to a single person, it's no big deal no matter what you do. If you sell 20 pistols to the same person, you prob wanna hang on to some ID from that person.

8/26/2012 7:05:54 PM

^ It's more an issue of what they do once you sell it to them. They may have had a permit but the person they sell to might not. If you don't have a record of the sale then it's your neck.

8/26/2012 8:40:39 PM

no, it's not. you are in no way responsible for what the buyer or any subsequent buyers does with a firearm. ensure that they have the proper credentials to purchase and be done with it.

i still haven't found any law that says the seller must retain documentation after a private party sale.

[Edited on August 26, 2012 at 8:45 PM. Reason : if anyone can find the law, please post it.]

this sort of attitude is the same reason there are folks requiring you to show a HPP or a CHP for a long gun sale. it's fucking ridiculous.

[Edited on August 26, 2012 at 8:46 PM. Reason : adsf]

8/26/2012 8:44:36 PM

Quote :

" § 14-406. Dealer to keep record of sales. (a) Every dealer in pistols and other weapons mentioned in this Article shall keep an accurate record of all sales thereof, including the name, place of residence, date of sale, etc., of each person, firm, or corporation to whom or which such sales are made, which record shall be open to the inspection of any duly constituted State, county or police officer, within this State. "Dealer" means anyone that sells a gun."

Like nrr said, where does it define dealer?

8/26/2012 8:51:36 PM

^^ Then how to you prove that you're not the one who sold it to the Nth buyer down the line who can't legally possess a weapon or whatever scenario leads to a police detective knocking at your door? I'm not saying that you should require people to show CCH permits or PP permits for long gun sales, but I don't see how not retaining records of sale does anything but open you up to liability.

8/26/2012 10:42:15 PM

if you wanna cover your ass, by all means, do so

but the discussion is whether or not the seller is required by law to retain such records

if you're gonna CYA on handguns, then why not on long guns? why not on knives? baseball bat?

it's a slippery fucking slope

[Edited on August 26, 2012 at 10:47 PM. Reason : afd]

8/26/2012 10:46:18 PM

I received two pms about the Rossi so putting more info here.

I really have no clue how to price it so any advice would be appreciated.
I may have a friend appraise it when I have him look at the other gun.

Amadeo Rossi - 38 special
Made in Brazil
The Garcia Corp, Washington DC
SAO Leopoldo RS

8/27/2012 9:55:26 AM

get on http://www.gunbroker.com and see what they're selling for. it's ebay for guns.

8/27/2012 10:26:55 AM

Here's the closest thing I could find.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=303294950
Obv I'd be willing to take less than that.

8/27/2012 10:50:17 AM

Here's pics of the other one for the people who pmed me.
I'm probably going to take them to a BBB accredited gun shop this week since I have no clue what they're worth.
I'm not interested in keeping them, so any reasonable offer will be accepted.

8/27/2012 1:42:41 PM

I have two glock holsters that I am trying to get rid of. $35 each

The first is the Comp-Tac 2 o'clock (left hand) for sub-compact glocks:



The second is Comp-Tac's replacement for the 2 o'clock (right hand). It has two clips, so you can adjust the depth that it sits. This fits the compact frame glocks:

8/27/2012 11:35:54 PM

Sorry that I don't have a price in mind to everyone who has inquired about the guns.
I'll go get them appraised this weekend.
Feel free to post a price in the thread if you want to get the ball rolling.
Like I said, I'm not interested in keeping either.

8/28/2012 1:49:51 PM