99 years of penalties

10/6/2010 1:11:30 PM

time for hey now to call 99.9 the fan

10/6/2010 1:14:46 PM

I got 99 problems but a Butch ain't one.

10/6/2010 1:15:44 PM

party like it's page 99

10/6/2010 1:19:09 PM

ONWARD AND UPWARD TO 100 PAGES!

[Edited on October 6, 2010 at 1:22 PM. Reason : Word]

10/6/2010 1:21:17 PM

let's do this during the hour

10/6/2010 1:27:35 PM

99 bottles of South Beach Cristal on the wall, 99 bottles of Cris...

10/6/2010 1:27:47 PM

Heres to hoping for 300 pages before this thing is wrapped up. Its been a fun 3 months, and I hope it goes another year.

Penalties, sanctions, arrests, IRS audits, and lack of institutional control.....oh my!

10/6/2010 1:27:50 PM

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"Its been a fun 3 months, and I hope it goes another year 3 decades"

10/6/2010 1:32:15 PM

And all this time I just thought Tarheel was another word for Faggot.

10/6/2010 1:32:29 PM

somehow we neglected to post noted crack aficionado, underage hooker client, and unc student-athlete lawrence taylor on page 98

10/6/2010 1:40:53 PM

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"Gentleman, which brings me to my next point: Don't smoke crack."

10/6/2010 1:49:21 PM

but he does smoke crack. get it?

10/6/2010 3:01:54 PM

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""rival East Carolina""

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"This should piss off a few ass clowns over at IC."

They are ECU's rival when they beat them, when the lose they aren't same as with State.

10/6/2010 3:54:18 PM

haha love it (99.9):

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"john blake made another phone call, back in a minute"

10/6/2010 4:01:25 PM

Well it will be nice when we aren't their rival for a fourth year in a row.

10/6/2010 4:01:57 PM

10/6/2010 8:15:10 PM

I just want to know where that douche stingrayrush is. Can't really defend your criminals anymore can you?

10/6/2010 8:19:39 PM

He's probably busy trying to cover up the rest of the nannygate story.

NANNY
NANNY
NANNY

10/6/2010 9:47:07 PM

10/6/2010 9:49:15 PM

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10/6/2010 9:56:05 PM

i love how because i'm defending my alma mater i'm a douche. what would you like me to say? anything shy of condemning the entire school to hell won't be good enough for you fucktards, so i just don't say anything

at this point we're going to get some kind of penalty, just how harsh is the question. i could outline reasons why i don't think it'll be worse than wins forfeited and maybe a few scholarships lost, but that would be pointless because i'd be accused of having my head in the sand or being a shameless homer.

just for the record, i've never said a cross word about state because i actually think its a good school, and i respect the hell out of russell wilson. enjoy living life hating people because they pull for a different team

10/6/2010 9:57:27 PM

From PackPride twitter 8 minutes ago:
"Rumor out there that Wade Smith dropped John Blake as a client."

10/6/2010 10:10:45 PM

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"just for the record, i've never said a cross word about state "

On this board...

We can all read IC too, you know

10/6/2010 10:18:36 PM

I don't hate Stingray because he's a Carolina fan

I hate him because he narced on me

10/6/2010 10:40:08 PM

i hate him b/c why the fuck is he on this forum?

10/6/2010 10:45:29 PM

10/6/2010 10:51:57 PM

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"I don't hate Stingray because he's a Carolina fan I hate him because he narced on me"

Yeah, for real StingrayRush. You're one of the few UNC fans we can tolerate on TWW. But, as a member of TWW its really a shame that you fucked up a good TWW troll of IC.

[Edited on October 6, 2010 at 10:54 PM. Reason : f]

10/6/2010 10:53:53 PM

I was talking about drugs but yeah that too

10/6/2010 10:54:47 PM

^

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"PERFORMANCE ENHANCING WEED"

10/7/2010 12:18:33 AM

I love this thread... and reading through IC. The delusion of Carolina fans is remarkable.

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"Why is Alabama trying to throw us under the bus? What's their deal? Are we a threat to them or are they trying to divert attention away from their "spotless" program? Eff em"

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"You ought to look at my Posts. I think UNC is or was a threat to SEC schools. UNC was getting recruits from every region. You notice they got Hurst. UNC's defense probably would have challenged Bama's defense for supremacy. They are out of the way now while people keep slobbering over Bama's defense and Darius. Quinn was a definite threat to Darius. Alabama and South Carolina has both pointed their fingers our way while their investigations are being taken cared of by the NCAA. All they have to do is blame UNC and their players."

yeah... Alabama is afraid of getting out-recruited by UNC. They were worried that UNC would pass them by and leave them in the dust. yeah... that makes sense.

10/7/2010 1:34:20 AM

^ wow, elevator hasn't hit bottom yet i see. SEC afraid of UNC, woah

^(way up) @dweedle the limpwristed struttin ramses is friggin hilaaarious

[Edited on October 7, 2010 at 3:06 AM. Reason : ]

10/7/2010 3:05:56 AM

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"at this point we're going to get some kind of penalty, just how harsh is the question. i could outline reasons why i don't think it'll be worse than wins forfeited and maybe a few scholarships lost, but that would be pointless because i'd be accused of having my head in the sand or being a shameless homer. "

You already outlined those reasons they were "There was no way butch davis could have known Blake had never had any trouble with the NCAA before" As I stated before the NCAA had already investigated Blake once for having Wichard in his locker room and on his sideline at Oklahoma. Oh wait I bet they aren't talking about that over at IC in fact I bet they would ban your ass if you brought it up.

10/7/2010 7:28:16 AM

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"i love how because i'm defending my alma mater i'm a douche. what would you like me to say? anything shy of condemning the entire school to hell won't be good enough for you fucktards, so i just don't say anything at this point we're going to get some kind of penalty, just how harsh is the question. i could outline reasons why i don't think it'll be worse than wins forfeited and maybe a few scholarships lost, but that would be pointless because i'd be accused of having my head in the sand or being a shameless homer. just for the record, i've never said a cross word about state because i actually think its a good school, and i respect the hell out of russell wilson. enjoy living life hating people because they pull for a different team"

You do have your head in the sand. All I know, is that if this shit was going down at State, I'd be like:



I'd pretty much avoid all college sports message boards and tv shows and just concentrate on the NFL. I'd try and do that for about 5 years and then come back to NC State football and see where we're at and hopefully we'd be back up to Duke's level by then.

10/7/2010 8:05:08 AM

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"i love how because i'm defending my alma mater i'm a douche. what would you like me to say?"

I'd like you to admit you were flat out wrong about Blake. You said he never did anything wrong and was never accused of anything before being hired at UNC. That shit is straight up false. Other than this thread, you've been a bearable UNC poster on this board.




[Edited on October 7, 2010 at 8:37 AM. Reason : sd]

10/7/2010 8:34:33 AM

yeah i don't have much of a problem with StingrayRush

- he seems to be approaching this situation in a logical manner, especially since not much has been announced (by the groups that matter) in the way of findings or penalties
- he actually went to UNCCH

there appears to be a correlation there. i wonder what percentage of Carolina fans can even spell UNC, much less went to community college.

[Edited on October 7, 2010 at 9:17 AM. Reason : -]

10/7/2010 9:16:10 AM

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"I'd like you to admit you were flat out wrong about Blake. You said he never did anything wrong and was never accused of anything before being hired at UNC. That shit is straight up false."

the only incident i'm aware of is he was questioned by the ncaa about wichard, and they didn't find him guilty of anything. when he was hired, his background was run through both unc human resources (admittedly that doesn't mean a whole lot) and the ncaa for prior infractions. neither turned up a shred of anything, so yes i maintain that when he was hired there was nothing official in his history to suggest he was dirty.

obviously he's engaged in some pretty slimy behavior since then and it looks terrible for him and unc, but the fact that he's calling all these other players other than his own at unc is really weird. nevermind that hardly any of his players have signed with wichard. he's either the world's worst runner, or completely out of his mind, or both. i have no idea if him calling people besides unc players is good or bad for the school, because it can be interpreted several ways. if he was straight up paying players then we're fucked, but i'm always gonna try to see the issue as glass half full until it's over. sorry if that offends anyone's sensibilities

10/7/2010 9:50:11 AM

^ He also apparently had his recruiting records from Oklahoma destroyed. But anyway...

If I were the one making a hiring decision, I would find a guy with a very close relationship to an agent and who, oh yeah, invited said agent onto the sidelines and locker room very suspicious at the very least.

[Edited on October 7, 2010 at 10:02 AM. Reason : ...]

10/7/2010 10:01:36 AM

i'm not aware of the recruiting record thing, got a link?

and you're right, in hindsight butch should've never brought him within 100 miles of campus. my guess is that because of their friendship and the late jump they were getting on recruiting (mid-december), he was seen as an ideal candidate to step in and solidify the recruits that were already committed. but again, that was obviously poor judgment and something i wish had never happened

10/7/2010 10:08:11 AM

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"nevermind that hardly any of his players have signed with wichard."

How many has he called at other schools vs. how many has wichard signed? He didn't sign Suh, and Dareus and Saunders haven't even hired an agent yet. But Wichard did sign Benn. So that's one for two...50%...not bad.

Who else am I missing?

10/7/2010 10:08:36 AM

in his career, he's coached 50+ players who were drafted, and i think only 5 or 6 have signed with wichard, including bosworth when blake was a grad assistant. maybe the kickbacks for that handful is good enough, i don't know, but you'd think he'd be able to send a few more given he was in their ear all the time.

10/7/2010 10:12:27 AM

I dunno who that is, but he looks like such a douchebag that I had to post it. notice the blue nail polish on his pinky finger

[Edited on October 7, 2010 at 10:14 AM. Reason : adsf]

10/7/2010 10:13:06 AM

^^I thought it was upwards of around 10...but I could be wrong.

However, what you need to look at, is how many of the players that he coaches were 1st or 2nd round draft picks. I bet he's coached 20...maybe 25 at the most...and if 10 of those signed with Wichard...that is a much bigger percentage.

Big agent's don't go after 2nd day draft picks. Wichard isn't going to wire transfer thousands of dollars to Blake's bank account so he can get a small percentage on a league minimum rookie who might get cut in training camp.

That's why this comment:

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"in his career, he's coached 50+ players who were drafted"

...is bull-shit. Blake wouldn't steer 5th/6th/7th round talent Wichard's way...but he would push 1st/2nd/possible 3rd round talent there.

10/7/2010 10:16:42 AM

hadn't thought about it that way, but that's true. regardless, i'm just hoping for the best while you hope for the worst and the result will probably be somewhere in the middle

10/7/2010 10:25:27 AM

^^ I don't know what makes it more obvious that he does blow, that hat or the painted coke nail?

10/7/2010 10:25:36 AM

trying to find that John Blake article for Stingray that outlined his sketchy history. I can't remember if it was on SFN or somewhere else.

10/7/2010 10:34:04 AM

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"regardless, i'm just hoping for the best while you hope for the worst and the result will probably be somewhere in the middle"

While true, I think it will be a lot closer to the "worst" than the "best" for UNC. The fact is that these investigations usually take a very long time. And it's at the very end that we see how bad it is. It is still very early in this process, and the shit that is coming out now and the rumors of what might possibly come out is just BONKERS.

Just what Blake appears to have done, ALONE, is worse than anything I can remember seeing in my lifetime. In the past, schools have gotten in trouble for boosters giving benefits to players, or maybe some illegal recruiting tactics as far as too many calls, or visiting during dead periods, etc. Blake was an ASSOCIATE HEAD COACH acting as a RUNNER for an agent. It is absolutely ridiculous. I'm actually having a hard time grasping it. Just looking at USC...they had one player (Bush) get a shit ton of money from someone outside the program and pretty much one coach knew about it and let it happen.

With UNC, Blake was (purportedly...but you can't possibly ignore this information coming out) working for an agent to get his kids (and now other kids) to sign with that agent. He (or the agent) was paying for trips and possibly other things.

So that alone is worse than USC. Then you throw in tutorgate, Hawkins, and possibly the same thing going on with high school recruits that was going on with Austin while at UNC...I mean...I don't see how UNC fans can possibly think that their program isn't going to take a colossal hit from all of this. And that's being realistic...not just the bias from an NC State fan.

Do I wish it to get really bad??? Yes. I was worried a lot of it was going to get swept under the rug until the recent Blake stuff came out. Initially, it was all rumors that this stuff was happening. Slowly, but surely, more evidence keeps popping up. It's bad enough already, but as more evidence comes, it will just solidify everything.

It's quite exciting if you're not a UNC fan.

10/7/2010 10:40:59 AM

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"so yes i maintain that when he was hired there was nothing official in his history to suggest he was dirty."

Clearly you have not seen this article. Credit Novicane for the find back in July:

Good read about John Blake and how he has ruined football programs.

http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2010/07/19/the-north-carolina-agent-fiasco-the-john-blake-stain/

10/7/2010 10:44:08 AM

set up the setem upper



V -- well now im just scared off

[Edited on October 7, 2010 at 10:54 AM. Reason : ]

10/7/2010 10:47:52 AM

whoever makes the next post better come fucking strong

10/7/2010 10:54:06 AM