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http://weezer.com/news/

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"...a happy new year to all! A few days ago some intrepid =w= fans braved the wilds of the internet to find this info, which, if one looks carefully, lists March 21st as the date the first single from the new weezer album goes to radio. The title listed, "Beverly Hills", is indeed correct! And yes, the 'radio date' of 3/21 is indeed confirmed at this point, though as its so far away, its not impossible that it could still change. So what does this date mean? It means that until 3/21, theres really no point in requesting the song, as radio stations are being 'serviced' with the song on that date - in other words, they dont have it yet, and arent supposed to play it yet even if they did. (But does the song rock? HELL YES!) As for what this means in the bigger picture, the most recent predictions of a spring release for weezers album 5 are proving accurate so far. By the time the 'Beverly Hills' is at radio, way way more details and info will become available. But for now, the album isnt entirely even finished yet, as Rivers will be completing his work on several songs after his semester is over in late January. Then the album (including 'Beverly Hills') gets mixed and the artwork gets done. What is for sure is that "Beverly Hills" will be at radio well in advance of the albums release, by a good 6 weeks or more, which is normal for a 1st single from a new album. At this time, no album title is known and no release date is set. Touring is being talked about and definite plans are on the table, but again, no details are ready for the public yet. Patience, young jedi!"

1/15/2005 1:12:00 PM

yea i heard some stuff about this.

1/15/2005 1:15:20 PM

i have big expectations for their next album.

1/15/2005 1:18:21 PM

=w=

1/15/2005 1:18:59 PM

I've never understood why it takes so long to make an album. "Good" musicians have notebooks full of work, and put in 8-hour days to get them recorded. Not knocking weezer, but I also find it ridiculous to release an album that doesn't completely fill a CD(ie 25 tracks or so).

1/15/2005 7:09:36 PM

ummmmm

hmmmm, no?

1/15/2005 7:12:31 PM

^^ I think that's exactly the problem Weezer had. For The Green Album and Maladroit, they quickly thew together a bunch of songs, and put them on the album. Neither of those albums turned out very good and were received terrible critically, so they are taking the time to try and get it right this time.

1/15/2005 7:39:12 PM

i am excited to hear the new stuff

1/15/2005 7:51:51 PM

I have Beatles albums that are less than half an hour long. They've spent FAR more time in my CD player than countless longer albums.

It doesn't matter at all how long an album is if it's done well.

1/15/2005 8:14:38 PM

i agree with the quality over length argument

but every beatles album i own, which is 9-10 total are longer than 30 minutes...but i dont fuck with their earlier releases

1/15/2005 8:17:14 PM

Yea, I've heard quotes from Weezer saying they were embarrased by their follow-up albums(though I like some songs off both).

I'm not suggesting they throw out a large amount of crap. To the contrary, serious musicians that have the money for studio time should have HOURS of material to choose from if they're not touring heavily. If they can't grab 25 good tracks at any time to put on an album something is wrong. They should have to think long and hard about which songs they cut, not struggle to come up with filler.

1/16/2005 1:05:59 AM

who puts 25 tracks on an album?

its not just about shoving a bunch of shit onto a record, its about making a quality record front to back not seeing how long you can make it

all that other crap will turn into b-sides and box set material

1/16/2005 1:11:47 AM

Supposedly, Rivers and Weezer performed over 200 unreleased songs the summer before the release of their green album.

1/16/2005 2:05:44 AM

yea actually the reason the green album and maladroit came out so close to each other (in comparison to other weezer albums) was because they wrote something like 60-80 songs for a new record and chose 10 similar style ones for the green album and another group for maladroit.

also ppl dont usually put 25 songs on a CD because you want to write a ton of songs and pick your 10 or so best songs. that capture a certain sound and have a cohesion for a CD.

1/16/2005 2:08:10 AM

Or you don't, like the White Album or Sandinista!, and end up with something kinda cool, kinda good, and kinda shitty.

1/16/2005 4:44:52 AM

heh yea

1/16/2005 5:00:22 AM

im glad weezer is taking their time. rivers quit writing personal songs after pinkerton was slammed by everyone when it first came out, and supposedly the newer songs are suppose to be more like pinkerton.

1/16/2005 3:45:50 PM

they need matt sharp back. Him and rivers were the 90's paul and john

1/17/2005 3:11:05 PM

^ I agree, and I think most fans do as well, but it doesn't look like there's a chance of that ever happening. Even though they've made up now, Matt seems to want to continue to go off on his on with solo stuff. He needs to get the Rentals together again, though, because that was awesome.

1/17/2005 3:13:03 PM

yeah, the rentals were tight.

I can remember a time where every single song that weezer put out was fucking great. the green album was great at first, but I got tired of it really quick. and maladroit, well, that album just blows. it'd be a good album for alot of other bands, but it just doesn't have the personality that the first two weezer albums had. I think Rivers was trying too hard. I believe he's still got it in him. and any time i can see weezer on tour is cool with me. I've seen em on the pinkerton tour, and the tour's for the last two albums. the pinkerton was tight because they pretty much played all of both albums.

1/17/2005 3:17:46 PM

^^ They do Rentals shows sometimes, but they're listed as Matt Sharp so you never really know. He had two of the later-period Rentals with him when he played Go a couple years back, and the set was 1/2 Rentals songs.

1/17/2005 6:03:10 PM

As someone who has been a diehard weezer fan for a decade now and knows every lyric forward and backward, I'll buy the album.
I only pray it's an improvement from Green and Maladroit.

Also the Rentals rock my socks.

1/17/2005 7:03:44 PM

the rentals are good. the latest matt sharp solo material sucked.

1/17/2005 9:35:51 PM

fantastic

1/17/2005 9:45:07 PM

lets turn this into a rentals thread. they can beat aphex twin and the special goodness any day of the month

[Edited on January 17, 2005 at 10:14 PM. Reason : i'm down with p]

1/17/2005 10:14:30 PM

did anyone catch the videos that went up of the mattsharp/rivers acoustic songs. they are pretty good

1/17/2005 10:47:26 PM

My head is in the sun.

1/17/2005 11:46:16 PM

^^^ did you mean the space twins?

1/18/2005 12:25:26 AM

come to daddy

1/18/2005 12:45:36 AM

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"who puts 25 tracks on an album?"

the smashing pumpkins

1/18/2005 12:15:55 PM

I prefer shorter albums. They keep my interest all the way though. There's a reason most longer albums don't have released songs on the back end.

1/18/2005 12:23:21 PM

For those of you wondering why this new album is taking so long to record, you may or may not know that Rivers went back to Harvard this past semester after recording with the band all summer but not quite finishing the job. The first post vaguely references this. Also I have read that Rivers is a song writing prodigy, at least in terms of volume. I remember hearing he had in the neighborhood of 300+ songs written but not recorded for whatever reason. A couple summers ago the band website released about 30 or so demos...pissed the label off big time. You web peoples probably already know all of this.

1/19/2005 11:39:46 AM

^^this is weezer we're talking about, so dont worry about it being long.

all i remember hearing about any of this was that rivers had enough songs after harvard to make a few albums. i figured that he had enough for more than 2 made at that time, but who knows now.

1/19/2005 3:07:52 PM

only one album has been more than 10 songs for them so dont worry about it being long. their songs are mad short too. this will be interesting. i hvaent really enjoyed anything after pinkterton tho i own them all

1/19/2005 3:14:13 PM

no one should be concerned w/ the length or their next album, just quality. there use to be more active weezer/rivers sites w/ song lists, and there are hundreds of songs. theres also a ton of weezer/rivers material you can find. lots of demos w/ the band, some solo rivers work, and lots of remixes and re-workinds of the same songs, especially maladriot songs, when the band used fans to help produce the album. they need to release demos from the pinkerton-era, ever since that album they havent been the same.

1/19/2005 3:26:43 PM

http://www.weezernation.com

The audio section has a ton of demos and B-sides and stuff. Then the bootleg section has a ton of concert recordings.

1/19/2005 3:38:42 PM

Quote :

"they need matt sharp back. "

1/19/2005 3:41:20 PM

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"...In a series of recording sessions over the last 2 weeks with Rick Rubin, Rivers has finished all the necessary vocals that were still needed on several Album 5 songs. Also, he oversaw the recording of some special additional instrumentation and arranging on a few songs. Now the album is finished, save for the mixing process and any possible minor changes that come up between now and the deadline. 15 (or 16) (reports are conflicting) tracks are going to mixing, and from that most likely 12 will end up on the album, with the leftovers presumably saved for b-sides. At this point who is actually doing the mixing has not quite been confirmed, but it is almost certainly someone who hasn't mixed a weezer album before, and whoever is chosen will be starting very soon. The makeup of the album is roughly as follows - about half of the tracks are from the summer/fall '04 sessions at Grandmaster. These are what remain of the 12 songs originally intended to be the album, chosen from Rivers spring '04 demo sessions. The other half of the album is a mix of songs from the original 12/03 recording sessions at Cello (that have now been finished up with Rivers recent vocal sessions, etc), and several songs from fall '04 that were worked on by the rest of the band after Rivers went to school for the fall semester (which have also now been finished up with the recent addition of Rivers vocals.) Some may recall that the 12/03 sessions were reported to be dropped from consideration for the album, but several of the songs jumped back into consideration when checked out over a year after their recording, and were suddenly rivalling (and indeed, replacing) some of the summer/fall '04 recordings. An important clarification needs to be made at this point - back in summer/fall of last year, it was announced on this site that Rick Rubin was no longer formally producing the album, but was still in place as a guiding hand and mentor for the band and the album. This annnouncement generated immediate speculation amongst fans and press that Rick had been fired from the project. However, nothing could be further from the truth. While it is true that Rick stayed clear of the studio over the course of the summer/fall '04 sessions (as opposed to being at the helm for the 12/03 sessions), this was due to a mutual agreement between him and the band that the band needed to try and work without Rick's direct influence for the time being. Rick was still listening to the daily efforts (via cd's) and still frequently discussing the project with the band and management. While Rick was not physically present for the fall '04 sessions, he was in effect still producing as it was his support and inspiring presence that catalyzed the band back into the studio in the first place, and his thoughtful guidance that kept the band energized throughout the whole process. And with the recent album finishing vocal sessions of Rivers being directly helmed by Rick, the Album 5 project has come full circle. Weezer.com's Karl apologizes for any confusion generated by his inaccurate interpretations of these events that appeared in past news stories. ...A possible album title has been chosen, but has not been confirmed at this time. The cover art is currently being finalized. ...The 'Beverly Hills' single release date (to radio) is still pending, possibly 3/23, possibly a bit later. ...Album 5 should still be in stores in May. No exact date set yet. ...In the last week, the band did a lengthy interview and major photo shoot, for a US music mag. ...'Beverly Hills' video shoot tomorrow! 150 weezer fans are now signed up and will be a part of the video! "

There are 150 people in the video shoot today, so if they actually hear the song, which I assume they would while shooting a video, then we'll have some idea of what it's going to be like.

2/28/2005 10:21:36 AM

Playing soccer with Weezer and a bunch of playmates at the Playboy Mansion. Damn I should have flown out to Cali to be in the video shoot...

http://www.weezer.com/bboard/weezer/viewtopic.asp?TopicID=1787865&topic=Pics+as+crappy+as+the+quality+of+the+phone+recordings%2E

3/1/2005 1:40:41 AM

http://weezernation.com/bevhills4.mp3

3/1/2005 1:47:04 AM

Sounds even more like The Cars than before.

3/1/2005 1:51:00 AM

i only liked

say it aint so
my name is johnas
hash pipe
keep fishing
buddy holly


what are some that are similar to these or better?
( i listened to others but didnt like them)

3/1/2005 1:57:04 AM

in the garage
the world has gone and left me here

3/1/2005 1:59:36 AM

LOVE EXPLOSION.

Most underrated Weezer song ever, mostly 'cuz it's lyrically idiotic and buried on a mediocre album. Fucking great hook.

3/1/2005 3:07:43 AM

yes, thats right, rivers raps every verse...

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"Beverly Hills That's where I wanna be! Livin' in Beverly Hills Beverly Hills Rollin' like a ce-le-brity! Livin' in Beverly Hills "

they transplanted will smith into rivers body

the greatest weezer unreleased/bsides are probably off of 'songs from the black hole', either blast off, IJTATLOMD, or YWGWMT. damn their long song titles.

[Edited on March 1, 2005 at 3:16 AM. Reason : .]

3/1/2005 3:13:45 AM

Blast Off is fucking brilliant.

You Gave Your Love to Me Softly is also a nice simple one.

3/1/2005 3:35:43 AM

I'm still partial to ^ and Jamie

3/1/2005 9:28:45 AM

^^^^^ the world has TURNED and left me here

ive always liked paperface, even though the quality isnt too good

3/1/2005 9:36:45 AM

only in dreams is one of my favorites

3/1/2005 9:53:07 AM

^^ yea, my bad, i was pretty drunk last night when i wrote that

3/1/2005 11:58:56 AM