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4/18/2005 11:02:00 PM

We should gather everyone on the survival list together one night and play a giant game of "capture the flag(food/supplies)" on campus.

4/18/2005 11:04:58 PM

melee weapon of choice:

4/18/2005 11:06:06 PM

Ill pass on that.

4/18/2005 11:06:17 PM

4/18/2005 11:10:28 PM

MetalRed where do you suggest we go? The roads would be full of abandoned cars, it would be close to impossible to get through that unless you were on a motorcycle.

4/18/2005 11:12:52 PM

just take a truck along the train tracks

4/18/2005 11:13:49 PM

shit, that's brilliant

4/18/2005 11:15:44 PM

Train tracks are an excellent idea. But if one did enounter an abandoned or wrecked train, it would be impossible to get around. You could probably get to another city though.

4/18/2005 11:17:50 PM

samurai sword > mace > axe

mace takes too much effort to smash time after time and youll lose a lot of energy reversing its inertia etc

axe can get embedded in zombie flesh easily and chopping surface is small and generally duller than sword

samurai sword is swift, light/easily-wielded, and effective with almost every hit and badass

4/18/2005 11:35:55 PM

i think riot shields would be helpful too

4/18/2005 11:41:27 PM

in a severe pinch. i'm telling you... if we hole up, we would have a much better chance of weathering the situation. the zombies will eventually starve, and we will be home free.

4/18/2005 11:42:15 PM

trust me, most of the UT residency would try and run to mom and dad at the first sign of trouble

and the rest would be fooled by a government "safe house" somewhere near by

there would be a few that would stay, but it should not be a problem

the biggest problem would be getting all the keys out of the office and the tools out of the basement before the first floor is compromised

a lot of furnature against the stairwell doors on the first floor should keep us safe

then there are the set of stairs that do not connect to the first floor
they could be either a liability or an escape of last resort

4/18/2005 11:56:57 PM

I like the idea of the train tracks but am concerned about cars blocking the track. IE Beryl Rd, Blue Ridge Rd. However a train at low speed would work well big and solid enough to keep them from tipping it over. possible escape form the safe house. If we go with the ut thing we need to consider the 1st floor a loss and stick to the 3rd floor up. I would recommending calling the elevators up immediately and propping them open. (We don’t want to risk some one fleeing on the bottom floor pushing the button and getting bum rushed before the doors close. Also we need some one to get on the PC and print any possible info we might need. survival info, how to’s (purify water, fly, drive a train etc...), maps, infection maps etc... I know we would not be able to travel with this stuff but we will have some time on our hands to read through it and hopeful absorb some of it.

4/19/2005 12:20:40 AM

4/19/2005 12:33:54 AM

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"Baricading yourself inside a building is suicide. Its only a matter of time before someone fucks up, (and someone will fuck up), and lets a zombie in."

It isn't open to human error. The fortifications won't be fancy, but they'll block zombies for damn sure. Basically we're talking about jamming the first floor or two of a building with shit. Board up the doors and windows, back that up with random furniture we won't need, just jam those fuckers full. Sure, an intelligent foe would remove it all, but we're talking about zombies.

What's suicide is running around outside like a dman fool.

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"Is it so hard to believe that any thing that might reanimate dead tissue simply doesnt need to feed, or need nourishment to survive? But they instead do so simply out of basic instinct."

It is not entirely unreasonable that cells, having died, could be brought back to functionality. What isn't believable is that they'd just function indefinitely on their own.

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"Secondly, guns are your friends. Rifles and shotguns specifically. I understand the advantage of melee weapons in that there's no ammo to worry about, but the last place you want to be is within arms (or baseball bat's) reach of one of those fuckers."

Guns are a luxury. And clearly you don't want to be close enough to a zombie to hit it, that's what the barricades are for. But I'd rather have to beat fifty to death than shoot five, stop to reload, and get zombified.

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"So when they do break in, you're going to fend off dozens, if not hundreds of zombies in a stairwell with baseball bats?"

It will not happen. If they break through the doors they have a room full of stacked furniture that they can't get past, and if they did, they'd have a sealed stairwell door they can't open, and if they did, they'd have a stairwell full of shit they couldn't move, and if they did, they'd have another sealed door...they ARE NOT GETTING IN.

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"No. Zombies tend to gather in groups, and avoiding large groups wouldnt be all that difficult for a few decently armed people on foot."

All well and good if the zombies are shamblers and you never have to sleep. (see my comments to bigman in a moment)

You're telling me that someone is definitely going to fuck up, but you trust yourself to wander around the open with huge hordes of zombies without getting surrounded?

And trying to run around when there are sprinters about is laughable.

Quote :

"You will have Ten thousand zombies in the immediate area, many of which will be trying to break into your building. Sorry, but the zombies will win that seige."

Their numbers don't enter into it. It's not like they're gonna fashion a battering ram. At any given time only a certain number of zombies can apply force to the building, and they aren't enough to stop tear it down. They'll all also die off at roughly the same time.

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"my overall plan will be to make it to an oil rig out in the atlantic"

You don't know where any oil rigs are. You probably don't know how to competently operate a boat at all, let alone on the high seas. There are not pre-established "safehouses" all over the place. Every night you're going to have to go into a building, go to sleep, and just hope no zombies come by -- you won't have time to fortify every building you go into.

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As to the train tracks -- you might cover ground, I don't know. It just won't do you any good.

4/19/2005 3:03:34 AM

If possible we should try to have people of other races in the survivor group. As far as I know, everyone in it so far is white. When repopulating the earth, we will want as much genetic diversity as possible. Multiple races will help decrease the possibility of genetic deformities in our descendants.

4/19/2005 6:45:47 AM

Good idea. My roommate's S.Korean and can morph into a giant robot--maybe she'll come along, too.

4/19/2005 10:28:39 AM

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"Guns are a luxury. And clearly you don't want to be close enough to a zombie to hit it, that's what the barricades are for. But I'd rather have to beat fifty to death than shoot five, stop to reload, and get zombified."

Your melee plan is only going to work assuming they come at you one at a time. And im not talking about having some .38 6-shooter. Im talking about 9mm and .40 pistols with high cap magazines. Rifles with 30+ round magazines. (Yes, i either own these, or have ready access to them). At 20ft and less, its alot easier to point, aim, get a headshot, and move onto the next target, than trying to bludgeon several to death. Firearms work right up to point blank. At 5-10 ft, you're going to be able to take down a hell of alot more zombies than you will with a bat or an axe. Changing a magazine takes all of 3-4 seconds. All the while, im moving to escape, or find an easily defendable position, alowing me to cover my partners while they reload, or vice versa.

4/19/2005 10:46:18 AM

Ian, you and your crew are welcome to come out to Nashville

although I'd try to figure out the "backroads" route cause 64 is gonna be hell

or buy/steal a bike

4/19/2005 10:51:51 AM

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"4/18/2005 11:02:00 PM alee Veteran 479 Posts user info edit post We should gather everyone on the survival list together one night and play a giant game of "capture the flag(food/supplies)" on campus. 4/18/2005 11:04:58 PM BigMan157 All American 34591 Posts user info edit post melee weapon of choice: 4/18/2005 11:06:06 PM MetalRed All American 19317 Posts user info edit post Ill pass on that. 4/18/2005 11:06:17 PM wilso all american 3743 Posts user info edit post 4/18/2005 11:10:28 PM Wraith All American 7462 Posts user info edit post MetalRed where do you suggest we go? The roads would be full of abandoned cars, it would be close to impossible to get through that unless you were on a motorcycle. 4/18/2005 11:12:52 PM BigMan157 All American 34591 Posts user info edit post just take a truck along the train tracks 4/18/2005 11:13:49 PM wilso all american 3743 Posts user info edit post shit, that's brilliant 4/18/2005 11:15:44 PM Wraith All American 7462 Posts user info edit post Train tracks are an excellent idea. But if one did enounter an abandoned or wrecked train, it would be impossible to get around. You could probably get to another city though. 4/18/2005 11:17:50 PM tchenku All American 12278 Posts user info edit post samurai sword > mace > axe mace takes too much effort to smash time after time and youll lose a lot of energy reversing its inertia etc axe can get embedded in zombie flesh easily and chopping surface is small and generally duller than sword samurai sword is swift, light/easily-wielded, and effective with almost every hit and badass 4/18/2005 11:35:55 PM BigMan157 All American 34591 Posts user info edit post i think riot shields would be helpful too 4/18/2005 11:41:27 PM Smath74 Ron Mexico 58363 Posts user info edit post in a severe pinch. i'm telling you... if we hole up, we would have a much better chance of weathering the situation. the zombies will eventually starve, and we will be home free. 4/18/2005 11:42:15 PM NCSUStinger 25 Days 36388 Posts user info edit post trust me, most of the UT residency would try and run to mom and dad at the first sign of trouble and the rest would be fooled by a government "safe house" somewhere near by there would be a few that would stay, but it should not be a problem the biggest problem would be getting all the keys out of the office and the tools out of the basement before the first floor is compromised a lot of furnature against the stairwell doors on the first floor should keep us safe then there are the set of stairs that do not connect to the first floor they could be either a liability or an escape of last resort 4/18/2005 11:56:57 PM Easy Mac All American 2820 Posts user info edit post I like the idea of the train tracks but am concerned about cars blocking the track. IE Beryl Rd, Blue Ridge Rd. However a train at low speed would work well big and solid enough to keep them from tipping it over. possible escape form the safe house. If we go with the ut thing we need to consider the 1st floor a loss and stick to the 3rd floor up. I would recommending calling the elevators up immediately and propping them open. (We don’t want to risk some one fleeing on the bottom floor pushing the button and getting bum rushed before the doors close. Also we need some one to get on the PC and print any possible info we might need. survival info, how to’s (purify water, fly, drive a train etc...), maps, infection maps etc... I know we would not be able to travel with this stuff but we will have some time on our hands to read through it and hopeful absorb some of it. 4/19/2005 12:20:40 AM NCSUStinger 25 Days 36388 Posts user info edit post 4/19/2005 12:33:54 AM GrumpyGOP All American 4994 Posts user info edit post Quote : "Baricading yourself inside a building is suicide. Its only a matter of time before someone fucks up, (and someone will fuck up), and lets a zombie in." It isn't open to human error. The fortifications won't be fancy, but they'll block zombies for damn sure. Basically we're talking about jamming the first floor or two of a building with shit. Board up the doors and windows, back that up with random furniture we won't need, just jam those fuckers full. Sure, an intelligent foe would remove it all, but we're talking about zombies. What's suicide is running around outside like a dman fool. Quote : "Is it so hard to believe that any thing that might reanimate dead tissue simply doesnt need to feed, or need nourishment to survive? But they instead do so simply out of basic instinct." It is not entirely unreasonable that cells, having died, could be brought back to functionality. What isn't believable is that they'd just function indefinitely on their own. Quote : "Secondly, guns are your friends. Rifles and shotguns specifically. I understand the advantage of melee weapons in that there's no ammo to worry about, but the last place you want to be is within arms (or baseball bat's) reach of one of those fuckers." Guns are a luxury. And clearly you don't want to be close enough to a zombie to hit it, that's what the barricades are for. But I'd rather have to beat fifty to death than shoot five, stop to reload, and get zombified. Quote : "So when they do break in, you're going to fend off dozens, if not hundreds of zombies in a stairwell with baseball bats?" It will not happen. If they break through the doors they have a room full of stacked furniture that they can't get past, and if they did, they'd have a sealed stairwell door they can't open, and if they did, they'd have a stairwell full of shit they couldn't move, and if they did, they'd have another sealed door...they ARE NOT GETTING IN. Quote : "No. Zombies tend to gather in groups, and avoiding large groups wouldnt be all that difficult for a few decently armed people on foot." All well and good if the zombies are shamblers and you never have to sleep. (see my comments to bigman in a moment) You're telling me that someone is definitely going to fuck up, but you trust yourself to wander around the open with huge hordes of zombies without getting surrounded? And trying to run around when there are sprinters about is laughable. Quote : "You will have Ten thousand zombies in the immediate area, many of which will be trying to break into your building. Sorry, but the zombies will win that seige." Their numbers don't enter into it. It's not like they're gonna fashion a battering ram. At any given time only a certain number of zombies can apply force to the building, and they aren't enough to stop tear it down. They'll all also die off at roughly the same time. Quote : "my overall plan will be to make it to an oil rig out in the atlantic" You don't know where any oil rigs are. You probably don't know how to competently operate a boat at all, let alone on the high seas. There are not pre-established "safehouses" all over the place. Every night you're going to have to go into a building, go to sleep, and just hope no zombies come by -- you won't have time to fortify every building you go into. --- As to the train tracks -- you might cover ground, I don't know. It just won't do you any good. 4/19/2005 3:03:34 AM Nerdchick pwnologist 12986 Posts user info edit post If possible we should try to have people of other races in the survivor group. As far as I know, everyone in it so far is white. When repopulating the earth, we will want as much genetic diversity as possible. Multiple races will help decrease the possibility of genetic deformities in our descendants. 4/19/2005 6:45:47 AM Metricula Veteran 120 Posts user info edit post Good idea. My roommate's S.Korean and can morph into a giant robot--maybe she'll come along, too. 4/19/2005 10:28:39 AM MetalRed All American 19317 Posts user info edit post Quote : "Guns are a luxury. And clearly you don't want to be close enough to a zombie to hit it, that's what the barricades are for. But I'd rather have to beat fifty to death than shoot five, stop to reload, and get zombified." Your melee plan is only going to work assuming they come at you one at a time. And im not talking about having some .38 6-shooter. Im talking about 9mm and .40 pistols with high cap magazines. Rifles with 30+ round magazines. (Yes, i either own these, or have ready access to them). At 20ft and less, its alot easier to point, aim, get a headshot, and move onto the next target, than trying to bludgeon several to death. Firearms work right up to point blank. At 5-10 ft, you're going to be able to take down a hell of alot more zombies than you will with a bat or an axe. Changing a magazine takes all of 3-4 seconds. All the while, im moving to escape, or find an easily defendable position, alowing me to cover my partners while they reload, or vice versa. 4/19/2005 10:46:18 AM Snewf All American 35178 Posts user info edit post Ian, you and your crew are welcome to come out to Nashville although I'd try to figure out the "backroads" route cause 64 is gonna be hell or buy/steal a bike "

4/19/2005 10:56:58 AM

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" mr_willisof zombies without getting surrounded? And trying to r All American 35178 Posts user info edit post Ian, you and your crew are welcome to come out to Nashville although I'd try to figure out the "backroads" route cause 64 is gonna be hell or buy/steal a bike 4/19/2005 10:51:51 AM mr_willis All American 2825 Posts user info edit post Quote : "4/18/2005 11:02:00 PM alee Veteran 479 Posts user info edit post We should gather everyone on the survival list together one night and play a giant game of "capture the flag(food/supplies)" on campus. 4/18/2005 11:04:58 PM BigMan157 All American 34591 Posts user info edit post melee weapon of choice: 4/18/2005 11:06:06 PM MetalRed All American 19317 Posts user info edit post Ill pass on that. 4/18/2005 11:06:17 PM wilso all american 3743 Posts user info edit post 4/18/2005 11:10:28 PM Wraith All American 7462 Posts user info edit post MetalRed where do you suggest we go? The roads would be full of abandoned cars, it would be close to impossible to get through that unless you were on a motorcycle. 4/18/2005 11:12:52 PM BigMan157 All American 34591 Posts user info edit post just take a truck along the train tracks 4/18/2005 11:13:49 PM wilso all american 3743 Posts user info edit post shit, that's brilliant 4/18/2005 11:15:44 PM Wraith All American 7462 Posts user info edit post Train tracks are an excellent idea. But if one did enounter an abandoned or wrecked train, it would be impossible to get around. You could probably get to another city though. 4/18/2005 11:17:50 PM tchenku All American 12278 Posts user info edit post samurai sword > mace > axe mace takes too much effort to smash time after time and youll lose a lot of energy reversing its inertia etc axe can get embedded in zombie flesh easily and chopping surface is small and generally duller than sword samurai sword is swift, light/easily-wielded, and effective with almost every hit and badass 4/18/2005 11:35:55 PM BigMan157 All American 34591 Posts user info edit post i think riot shields would be helpful too 4/18/2005 11:41:27 PM Smath74 Ron Mexico 58363 Posts user info edit post in a severe pinch. i'm telling you... if we hole up, we would have a much better chance of weathering the situation. the zombies will eventually starve, and we will be home free. 4/18/2005 11:42:15 PM NCSUStinger 25 Days 36388 Posts user info edit post trust me, most of the UT residency would try and run to mom and dad at the first sign of trouble and the rest would be fooled by a government "safe house" somewhere near by there would be a few that would stay, but it should not be a problem the biggest problem would be getting all the keys out of the office and the tools out of the basement before the first floor is compromised a lot of furnature against the stairwell doors on the first floor should keep us safe then there are the set of stairs that do not connect to the first floor they could be either a liability or an escape of last resort 4/18/2005 11:56:57 PM Easy Mac All American 2820 Posts user info edit post I like the idea of the train tracks but am concerned about cars blocking the track. IE Beryl Rd, Blue Ridge Rd. However a train at low speed would work well big and solid enough to keep them from tipping it over. possible escape form the safe house. If we go with the ut thing we need to consider the 1st floor a loss and stick to the 3rd floor up. I would recommending calling the elevators up immediately and propping them open. (We don’t want to risk some one fleeing on the bottom floor pushing the button and getting bum rushed before the doors close. Also we need some one to get on the PC and print any possible info we might need. survival info, how to’s (purify water, fly, drive a train etc...), maps, infection maps etc... I know we would not be able to travel with this stuff but we will have some time on our hands to read through it and hopeful absorb some of it. 4/19/2005 12:20:40 AM NCSUStinger 25 Days 36388 Posts user info edit post 4/19/2005 12:33:54 AM GrumpyGOP All American 4994 Posts user info edit post Quote : "Baricading yourself inside a building is suicide. Its only a matter of time before someone fucks up, (and someone will fuck up), and lets a zombie in." It isn't open to human error. The fortifications won't be fancy, but they'll block zombies for damn sure. Basically we're talking about jamming the first floor or two of a building with shit. Board up the doors and windows, back that up with random furniture we won't need, just jam those fuckers full. Sure, an intelligent foe would remove it all, but we're talking about zombies. What's suicide is running around outside like a dman fool. Quote : "Is it so hard to believe that any thing that might reanimate dead tissue simply doesnt need to feed, or need nourishment to survive? But they instead do so simply out of basic instinct." It is not entirely unreasonable that cells, having died, could be brought back to functionality. What isn't believable is that they'd just function indefinitely on their own. Quote : "Secondly, guns are your friends. Rifles and shotguns specifically. I understand the advantage of melee weapons in that there's no ammo to worry about, but the last place you want to be is within arms (or baseball bat's) reach of one of those fuckers." Guns are a luxury. And clearly you don't want to be close enough to a zombie to hit it, that's what the barricades are for. But I'd rather have to beat fifty to death than shoot five, stop to reload, and get zombified. Quote : "So when they do break in, you're going to fend off dozens, if not hundreds of zombies in a stairwell with baseball bats?" It will not happen. If they break through the doors they have a room full of stacked furniture that they can't get past, and if they did, they'd have a sealed stairwell door they can't open, and if they did, they'd have a stairwell full of shit they couldn't move, and if they did, they'd have another sealed door...they ARE NOT GETTING IN. Quote : "No. Zombies tend to gather in groups, and avoiding large groups wouldnt be all that difficult for a few decently armed people on foot." All well and good if the zombies are shamblers and you never have to sleep. (see my comments to bigman in a moment) You're telling me that someone is definitely going to fuck up, but you trust yourself to wander around the open with huge hordes of zombies without getting surrounded? And trying to run around when there are sprinters about is laughable. Quote : "You will have Ten thousand zombies in the immediate area, many of which will be trying to break into your building. Sorry, but the zombies will win that seige." Their numbers don't enter into it. It's not like they're gonna fashion a battering ram. At any given time only a certain number of zombies can apply force to the building, and they aren't enough to stop tear it down. They'll all also die off at roughly the same time. Quote : "my overall plan will be to make it to an oil rig out in the atlantic" You don't know where any oil rigs are. You probably don't know how to competently operate a boat at all, let alone on the high seas. There are not pre-established "safehouses" all over the place. Every night you're going to have to go into a building, go to sleep, and just hope no zombies come by -- you won't have time to fortify every building you go into. --- As to the train tracks -- you might cover ground, I don't know. It just won't do you any good. 4/19/2005 3:03:34 AM Nerdchick pwnologist 12986 Posts user info edit post If possible we should try to have people of other races in the survivor group. As far as I know, everyone in it so far is white. When repopulating the earth, we will want as much genetic diversity as possible. Multiple races will help decrease the possibility of genetic deformities in our descendants. 4/19/2005 6:45:47 AM Metricula Veteran 120 Posts user info edit post Good idea. My roommate's S.Korean and can morph into a giant robot--maybe she'll come along, too. 4/19/2005 10:28:39 AM MetalRed All American 19317 Posts user info edit post Quote : "Guns are a luxury. And clearly you don't want to be close enough to a zombie to hit it, that's what the barricades are for. But I'd rather have to beat fifty to death than shoot five, stop to reload, and get zombified." Your melee plan is only going to work assuming they come at you one at a time. And im not talking about having some .38 6-shooter. Im talking about 9mm and .40 pistols with high cap magazines. Rifles with 30+ round magazines. (Yes, i either own these, or have ready access to them). At 20ft and less, its alot easier to point, aim, get a headshot, and move onto the next target, than trying to bludgeon several to death. Firearms work right up to point blank. At 5-10 ft, you're going to be able to take down a hell of alot more zombies than you will with a bat or an axe. Changing a magazine takes all of 3-4 seconds. All the while, im moving to escape, or find an easily defendable position, alowing me to cover my partners while they reload, or vice versa. 4/19/2005 10:46:18 AM Snewf All American 35178 Posts user info edit post Ian, you and your crew are welcome to come out to Nashville although I'd try to figure out the "backroads" route cause 64 is gonna be hell or buy/steal a bike " "

4/19/2005 10:58:13 AM

i've driven a boat in the gulf of mexico quite a few times so i should be fine

now if it's a sailboat, i'm pretty fucked... i can figure it out rather quickly but i'd rather not test that confidence in open water

and fuck it, even if i couldn't find an oil rig i could drop anchor and wait it out

[Edited on April 19, 2005 at 11:02 AM. Reason : yep]

4/19/2005 11:02:13 AM

A houseboat would work, but I don't know where any of those are.

4/19/2005 11:06:16 AM

I need to make my way to Oriental and grab my parents boat. ...and hope to god they have it gassed up.

4/19/2005 11:09:53 AM

if you're gonna steal a boat might as well steal a yacht

though that would require more people to crew and more extensive boating knowledge than i have

4/19/2005 11:09:59 AM

you are NOT going to be able to make it to the beach. if you could, then all the more power to you. but you won't.

4/19/2005 11:12:36 AM

A lot of people are talking like each man will have 2 women...but that doesn't make sense considering there will be many more men than women. The women will be the ones with 2 or more mates. Though some guys would love having more than one woman, it's simply not practical.

4/19/2005 11:16:53 AM

the women will have a lower survival rate too

4/19/2005 11:18:42 AM

Now, i can see city roads and the highways immediately surrounding them being all clogged up, but rural highways? No way. Theres absolutely nothing out there. People wouldnt even know of the zombie menace until they got near a town...and people listening to radio reports im sure would be hauling ass home to make sure their loved ones were ok. Im willing to bet those highways are fairly clear.

4/19/2005 11:19:13 AM

yeah I think a lot of 58 would be clear

just gotta get through Wilson

4/19/2005 11:20:07 AM

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"The women will be the ones with 2 or more mates."

Are you forgetting that men can't get pregnant? That is the idea of having multiple mates.

4/19/2005 11:33:07 AM

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"Now, i can see city roads and the highways immediately surrounding them being all clogged up, but rural highways? No way. Theres absolutely nothing out there. People wouldnt even know of the zombie menace until they got near a town...and people listening to radio reports im sure would be hauling ass home to make sure their loved ones were ok. Im willing to bet those highways are fairly clear."

amen brother

4/19/2005 11:34:18 AM

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"A lot of people are talking like each man will have 2 women...but that doesn't make sense considering there will be many more men than women. The women will be the ones with 2 or more mates. Though some guys would love having more than one woman, it's simply not practical."

No, there won't be more men than women. The whole system is designed to have at least 2 women to every man. We won't allow the ratio to be different; we'll throw men out if we have to.

Having two men to every woman would be damn near the dumbest idea I've heard in this whole thread. There'd simply be no point. Half of the males at any given time would be completely useless reproductively.

A man can do his part of the reproductive process quite frequently, and women can't. The male desire to have more than one woman doesn't enter into it, the whole thing is based on simple biology.

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"Your melee plan is only going to work assuming they come at you one at a time."

Hardly. A man with a decent melee weapon could easily fend off several zombies at a time. Look, we've established that guns are great when you have infinite ammo and everything's honky-dory, but that ain't how it's gonna be. You'll run out of bullets faster than you expect, or your gun will break, or you'll just have to reload and that will be enough downtime for them to get you...

Not that it even fucking matters, because the zombies aren't gonna break through the defenses. But 30 people will melee weapons could easily fend off a much larger number of zombies.

4/19/2005 1:07:17 PM

50 to 98 would get us close to nashville...........of course i would prolly want to shoot up 56 to louisburg and then head down 561 to nashville........that way i could get dads guns........and such.....

4/19/2005 2:21:29 PM

what is generally considered to be the most reliable clip rifle?

and where can i get an automatic shotgun with drum like this:
?

4/19/2005 2:30:56 PM

^Probably an AK-47...but they're unaccurate as all hell, and you're going to need to be making head shots. Go with an AR-15

4/19/2005 2:46:05 PM

2 words for mass zombie destruction.

Molotov Cocktail

4/19/2005 2:49:32 PM

then you just have flaming people trying to eat you

that's no good

4/19/2005 2:50:12 PM

it increases the rate at which they die over time? Decreases the time you out-last them? I dunno, I'm sure they aren't immune to the effects of fire, the rotting flesh is of course producing some flammable gasses, which would cause for a fast burn initially, it would spread from zombie to zombie rather easily.

4/19/2005 2:52:36 PM

yeah but for the few hours it takes to burn through them you have a sentient bonfire besieging you

that's not going to be good for the building you are in

4/19/2005 2:54:41 PM

ummm

who made up these Running zombies. ive never heard of them

4/19/2005 2:57:58 PM

Watch 28 Days later, or the Dawn of the Dead remake. They're like Kenyan olympic runners, except dead, and not black.

4/19/2005 3:13:56 PM

Note also that about half of the zombies in Half Life 2 are sprinters.

The shamblers are largely a product poor special effects back in the good ol' days. The zombies, at least some of them, are likely to be quick.

Molotov cocktails are fine if there's an assurance that the building we're in doesn't catch on fire. It isn't much good if you're in combat with them -- a zombie on fire is still gonna chase you about as fast. But for holding off sieges and the like, the idea has potential.

4/19/2005 3:39:49 PM

the extreme heat will weaken the brick and concrete of UT

4/19/2005 3:43:02 PM

Well that would rather seem to be the problem, yes.

Of course, we don't know exactly how flammable zombies are...it's possible that they wouldn't all catch each other on fire. Or, if we need to make a break for it, lob a few cocktails out there to keep 'em busy while we make a run for it.

4/19/2005 3:44:43 PM

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"I dunno, I'm sure they aren't immune to the effects of fire, the rotting flesh is of course producing some flammable gasses, which would cause for a fast burn initially, it would spread from zombie to zombie rather easily. "

Rotting flesh doesnt produce enough gas to be flammable. Their clothes and hair would burn, and over time, destroy enough muscle, ligament, and tendon to make them fall apart.

Brick and concrete can withstand far more heat than a bunch of rotting, burining corpses would create. You problem occurs if one of the burning zombies manages to make it into the building, setting all that furniture you've used for baricades on fire.

4/19/2005 3:52:44 PM

molotov cocktails can be thrown into the crowd of zombies not directly adjacent to UT, and i don't think it would burn the whole building down. depending on how long we are holed up, we could also do some "fireproofing" in the first few floors... remove carpets, flammable furniture, etc.

4/19/2005 3:52:46 PM

and there are plenty of fire extinguishers in UT that could be used to battle any fires, like metalred suggests, which might be likely to occur.

4/19/2005 3:54:15 PM

one thing you need to worry about is actually having power. with all the pandamonium going all around you, you best believe someone is going to wreck into the power lines and loose power on the grid. stock up on flashlights, batteries, and shotguns + ammo.

access to the roof of UT would allow for fun filled days of sniping if someone had a rifle and also allow for an ideal area to lob malitov cocktails far from the building.

[Edited on April 19, 2005 at 3:58 PM. Reason : ut]

4/19/2005 3:56:59 PM